Hiring freeze EO question

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's a different hiring freeze question -- we had an internal position open in my office that was not posted on USAjobs. It wasn't posted on any website. Our chief just emailed the office about it. The only people eligible for it are people who are already in my office. So no one was being "hired" for the position, but it's still an "open position" on Jan. 20. I think we won't be able to fill it. Is that what you think too?

Last time you would have been able to fill it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You might want to reconsider taking the job even if you can start, OP. I realize DOGE wins if you don't take the job, but consider your sanity.

If they are able to start the job and it's a good job and nowhere near the top, then it could be a good job for twenty years. It's a personal decision, but in no way a no-brainer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Posting the EO as a reference for this thread.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/hiring-freeze/

It also excepts an awful lot of agencies. Anything in national security, immigration, public safety, VA, SS, and Medicare is excepted. That’s gotta be 75% of federal employees.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If I have accepted in writing a federal position, but my start date is in mid-February, does this EO affect me?

Yes bc the position was vacant as of noon today.

There is a difference between TJO and FJO however.

Sorry I should add I don't know how TJO and FJO status relate to the EO? Anyone out there know?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If I have accepted in writing a federal position, but my start date is in mid-February, does this EO affect me?

Yes bc the position was vacant as of noon today.

There is a difference between TJO and FJO however.

Sorry I should add I don't know how TJO and FJO status relate to the EO? Anyone out there know?

Last time (at my agency) people who had chosen a start date and received their final offer were able to start. Tentative offers were placed on hold and never progressed to final offers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At my agency last time people who had start dates after the freeze had their offers rescinded. From comments above it sounds like it might not have to be that way. I’m hoping for the best for you, OP!

hard to say. I had a tentative job offer before the Jan 2017 freeze. My start date was pushed back a few times, but I eventually started sometime in April. who knows.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's a different hiring freeze question -- we had an internal position open in my office that was not posted on USAjobs. It wasn't posted on any website. Our chief just emailed the office about it. The only people eligible for it are people who are already in my office. So no one was being "hired" for the position, but it's still an "open position" on Jan. 20. I think we won't be able to fill it. Is that what you think too?

My understanding is that this is a reassignment. Never had an administration restricted all reassignments. They're moving a current employee -- not hiring a new person.

[Anonymous]

OPM issued guidance on the cut-off date, I think they said if you on-boarding date was Feb 8 or before, you offer is still good but the offer is revoked if it is Feb 9 or later unless your agency shows you meet one of the exceptions. I'm sorry if you didn't make the cut off.

[Anonymous]

OMB and OPM issued a joint implementing document last night, 5 pages plus appendix. If you’re not scheduled to be onboard by 2/8 the offer is rescinded.

[Anonymous]

https://www.chcoc.gov/content/federal-civilian-hiring-freeze-guidance

[Anonymous]

yes I received my finale offer letter on the 17th and got the call that I will not be able to start my new position anymore

[Anonymous]

If a job posting closed recently any chance they'll just do the interviews assuming the hiring process will take longer than the 90 days for the hiring freeze? Assuming of course the agency decides to keep the job after implementing its plan for workforce efficiency.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:yes I received my finale offer letter on the 17th and got the call that I will not be able to start my new position anymore

When was your start date supposed to be?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OPM issued guidance on the cut-off date, I think they said if you on-boarding date was Feb 8 or before, you offer is still good but the offer is revoked if it is Feb 9 or later unless your agency shows you meet one of the exceptions. I'm sorry if you didn't make the cut off.

Hiring manager — this is what we were told this afternoon.

[Anonymous]

So, so sorry, OP. That is extremely frustrating.