Hiring freeze EO question

Anonymous
If I have accepted in writing a federal position, but my start date is in mid-February, does this EO affect me?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If I have accepted in writing a federal position, but my start date is in mid-February, does this EO affect me?


Yes bc the position was vacant as of noon today.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If I have accepted in writing a federal position, but my start date is in mid-February, does this EO affect me?

Yes, sorry they’re doing this to you.
Anonymous
This was the same language used in 2017, and at that time people who had accepted a final offer and had a entry on duty date were still allowed to start work.

ie, the position isn't vacant because the person is hired, they just haven't started yet.

(I am not an HR person, and I suppose they could interpret things differently this time, but I did look up the 2017 EO: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/ff/Presidential_Memorandum_Regarding_the_Hiring_Freeze.pdf)
Anonymous
What about people through clearance?
Anonymous
You have to wait for the OPM guidance, which will probably be issued this week. If it is the same as in 2017, you should be OK.
Anonymous
Either way, I'm very sorry for this stress and uncertainty. This is awful.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Either way, I'm very sorry for this stress and uncertainty. This is awful.


Agreed. Good luck and hopefully since you have an EOD date you will come in board. I would be freaking out
Anonymous
At my agency last time people who had start dates after the freeze had their offers rescinded. From comments above it sounds like it might not have to be that way. I’m hoping for the best for you, OP!
Anonymous
Good luck OP.

But also since you’ll be in a probationary period you may want to consider continuing to look for a different job.
Anonymous
Here's a different hiring freeze question -- we had an internal position open in my office that was not posted on USAjobs. It wasn't posted on any website. Our chief just emailed the office about it. The only people eligible for it are people who are already in my office. So no one was being "hired" for the position, but it's still an "open position" on Jan. 20. I think we won't be able to fill it. Is that what you think too?
Anonymous
You might want to reconsider taking the job even if you can start, OP. I realize DOGE wins if you don't take the job, but consider your sanity.
Anonymous
No its starting today
Anonymous
Posting the EO as a reference for this thread.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/hiring-freeze/
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If I have accepted in writing a federal position, but my start date is in mid-February, does this EO affect me?


Yes bc the position was vacant as of noon today.


There is a difference between TJO and FJO however.
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