My youngest is now 10 and i've stopped paying for us to be seated together - 2 flights so far - and 2 different airlines have put us together anyway. I would never complain if we are apart - but I feel comfortable rolling the dice at this point (10 year is the youngest of 3). They have not been long flights - couple of hours, and she can do screens the whole time if separated. |
OP here. That was my abbreviated way of trying to convey the information. Please pause and reflect before criticizing someone who is trying to share information that may be of benefit to you. |
OP here. What's new is that, if there are adjacent seats available, the airline will be required to seat the 13-and-under child next to the accompanying adult age 14-and-over, without charging seat fees. At this time, there is no such requirement. Airlines view this is a major change. |
I'm pretty sure most airlines are already doing this IF the seats are available. |
And therein lies the problem. It all relies on seats being available which most of the time they aren't. This won't change anything. |
OP here. Yes, in 2022, DOT came out with guidance (non-binding) asking airlines to seat children (ages 13-and-under) next to an accompanying adult (14-and-over) to the maximum extent practicable, and without charging any seat fees. |
How is DOT going to enforce that airlines are being compliant? Can they audit passenger seat assignment records? If a family files a complaint, can't the airline just say that adjacent seating was unavailable? |
If you care about your kids don't be too cheap to pay for selection and rely in the inconvenience of strangers.
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Right. So I’m not seeing much difference. It’s still space depending and the airlines can still “sell” too many seats for a premium. |
OP: thank you for clarifying the matter. It makes sense that it is on the airline to fix the problem. |
But that’s not the problem. Plenty of instances of parents paying for seat assignments only to have them changed by the airline. There are countless instances of toddlers being separated by their parents. The airline typically tells the parents to ask other passengers to switch seats and you know how popular that is! |
I flew a bunch in regular and basic economy, without selecting and paying for seats, and never once was I seated separately from my children, starting when they were 7 and 12. |
It is a major change— and a good one. This is how it’s done in countries that actually have consumer protections. It’s shocking how poorly American passengers are treated in comparison to other countries— and yet passengers turn around and blame other passengers for the horrible experience that is flying here. |
They’ll have to comply like any regulated entity so yes— DOT can absolutely look at their records, collect consumer complaints, look for patterns, investigate, etc. DOT can then issue fines if it discovers noncompliance. (This is also why it’s important to make a complaint to the right agency if you’ve been mistreated— they collect that information, analyze patterns, and often act on it!) |
There is a strong anti-family streak in this country, which goes along with classic American individualism. It’s too bad that for many people, instead of thinking, “wow, airlines are making record profits while making the flying exponentially crappier for all involved,” they turn around and instead direct their anger at some family in a crap situation. They assume that the family must’ve just been “not responsible” or too cheap to buy tickets together, and then people pile on and delight in being superior. It’s pretty gross. |