RMSC locations?

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Anonymous wrote:You need to apply for several and the one your child gets into is best. Its very hard to get in just because there are so many kids and so few slots.

For 11-12 its very hard as someone has to drop out and it depends on how many mini's move up.

It took us multiple tryouts to get a spot.

What kind of times would you need to get in at this level? Would a swimmer with lots of AA and a few AAA be in pretty easily?

If a swimmer has AA and AAA across the board, they'd certainly be high on the list of contenders. Then it's a numbers game which is something out of your control.

You keep saying/looking for the "easy" path. The only "easy" or near sure path for RMSC is if you have a 6yo that is legal in breast or fly. After that, it just gets harder and you're at the age where it's as hard as it gets.

Worry about the things you can control and let the other things go. If they belong at RMSC they'll end up there. If not, there are plenty of other really good options available so it's very much a first world problem of plenty here. Good luck and keep us posted on how it turns out!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You need to apply for several and the one your child gets into is best. Its very hard to get in just because there are so many kids and so few slots.

For 11-12 its very hard as someone has to drop out and it depends on how many mini's move up.

It took us multiple tryouts to get a spot.

What kind of times would you need to get in at this level? Would a swimmer with lots of AA and a few AAA be in pretty easily?

PP was right in indicating that the issue may not be times, it may be spaces. At any given site, there may not be any vacancies _at all_ in your swimmer's age bracket (even though some of the practice groups overlap in age ranges). Even continuing swimmers who are overqualified for the next practice group up have to wait until slots are open.

That is why you definitely want to schedule two tryouts. There are usually two big tryout dates in July. Occasional other tryout opportunities sometimes are mentioned, but never at our site--we're not at Rockville, and I think sometimes they might have an off-cycle tryout. Others can correct me.

Does that mean they retain kids from year to year who are already there even if they are significantly slower than potential newcomers?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You need to apply for several and the one your child gets into is best. Its very hard to get in just because there are so many kids and so few slots.

For 11-12 its very hard as someone has to drop out and it depends on how many mini's move up.

It took us multiple tryouts to get a spot.

What kind of times would you need to get in at this level? Would a swimmer with lots of AA and a few AAA be in pretty easily?

PP was right in indicating that the issue may not be times, it may be spaces. At any given site, there may not be any vacancies _at all_ in your swimmer's age bracket (even though some of the practice groups overlap in age ranges). Even continuing swimmers who are overqualified for the next practice group up have to wait until slots are open.

That is why you definitely want to schedule two tryouts. There are usually two big tryout dates in July. Occasional other tryout opportunities sometimes are mentioned, but never at our site--we're not at Rockville, and I think sometimes they might have an off-cycle tryout. Others can correct me.

Does that mean they retain kids from year to year who are already there even if they are significantly slower than potential newcomers?

Correct it is a social club not a competitive racing team. They kind of have to do it that way because it's subsidized and people would keep transferring from private clubs to keep costs down, which they kind of do anyway.

It is annoying though; other sports that are competitive at that level have tryouts every so many months Re:Basketball. Basketball tryouts are a fact of life, every year. In practice kids that make the team are usually sufficiently good to keep making the team, but it's not always the case, and they make a point to have tryouts and workouts for everyone each year at least in the public teams. So far in AAU it seems they have tryouts more often like biyearly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You need to apply for several and the one your child gets into is best. Its very hard to get in just because there are so many kids and so few slots.

For 11-12 its very hard as someone has to drop out and it depends on how many mini's move up.

It took us multiple tryouts to get a spot.

What kind of times would you need to get in at this level? Would a swimmer with lots of AA and a few AAA be in pretty easily?

PP was right in indicating that the issue may not be times, it may be spaces. At any given site, there may not be any vacancies _at all_ in your swimmer's age bracket (even though some of the practice groups overlap in age ranges). Even continuing swimmers who are overqualified for the next practice group up have to wait until slots are open.

That is why you definitely want to schedule two tryouts. There are usually two big tryout dates in July. Occasional other tryout opportunities sometimes are mentioned, but never at our site--we're not at Rockville, and I think sometimes they might have an off-cycle tryout. Others can correct me.

Does that mean they retain kids from year to year who are already there even if they are significantly slower than potential newcomers?

Yes, swim is unique in that respect. Once you have made a club team you never lose your spot with the club. You can lose a spot with a high performance group, but you are then just moved to a lower group, not cut from the club altogether.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You need to apply for several and the one your child gets into is best. Its very hard to get in just because there are so many kids and so few slots.

For 11-12 its very hard as someone has to drop out and it depends on how many mini's move up.

It took us multiple tryouts to get a spot.

What kind of times would you need to get in at this level? Would a swimmer with lots of AA and a few AAA be in pretty easily?

PP was right in indicating that the issue may not be times, it may be spaces. At any given site, there may not be any vacancies _at all_ in your swimmer's age bracket (even though some of the practice groups overlap in age ranges). Even continuing swimmers who are overqualified for the next practice group up have to wait until slots are open.

That is why you definitely want to schedule two tryouts. There are usually two big tryout dates in July. Occasional other tryout opportunities sometimes are mentioned, but never at our site--we're not at Rockville, and I think sometimes they might have an off-cycle tryout. Others can correct me.

Does that mean they retain kids from year to year who are already there even if they are significantly slower than potential newcomers?

Yes, swim is unique in that respect. Once you have made a club team you never lose your spot with the club. You can lose a spot with a high performance group, but you are then just moved to a lower group, not cut from the club altogether.

This may be true for RMSC but definitely isn't true for other clubs. I've seen coaches ask kids to leave between seasons because they aren't progressing enough to go to the next group.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You need to apply for several and the one your child gets into is best. Its very hard to get in just because there are so many kids and so few slots.

For 11-12 its very hard as someone has to drop out and it depends on how many mini's move up.

It took us multiple tryouts to get a spot.

What kind of times would you need to get in at this level? Would a swimmer with lots of AA and a few AAA be in pretty easily?

PP was right in indicating that the issue may not be times, it may be spaces. At any given site, there may not be any vacancies _at all_ in your swimmer's age bracket (even though some of the practice groups overlap in age ranges). Even continuing swimmers who are overqualified for the next practice group up have to wait until slots are open.

That is why you definitely want to schedule two tryouts. There are usually two big tryout dates in July. Occasional other tryout opportunities sometimes are mentioned, but never at our site--we're not at Rockville, and I think sometimes they might have an off-cycle tryout. Others can correct me.

Does that mean they retain kids from year to year who are already there even if they are significantly slower than potential newcomers?

Yes, swim is unique in that respect. Once you have made a club team you never lose your spot with the club. You can lose a spot with a high performance group, but you are then just moved to a lower group, not cut from the club altogether.

This may be true for RMSC but definitely isn't true for other clubs. I've seen coaches ask kids to leave between seasons because they aren't progressing enough to go to the next group.

The clubs whose structures I know (and I only know a few) tend to have multiple off-ramps into less demanding workout groups for when swimmers' times don't improve as they age up. RMSC has that: by the time you reach the 15-18 age bracket, there are several different expectation levels at which you can be part of the club. I imagine many other clubs are the same.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You need to apply for several and the one your child gets into is best. Its very hard to get in just because there are so many kids and so few slots.

For 11-12 its very hard as someone has to drop out and it depends on how many mini's move up.

It took us multiple tryouts to get a spot.

What kind of times would you need to get in at this level? Would a swimmer with lots of AA and a few AAA be in pretty easily?

PP was right in indicating that the issue may not be times, it may be spaces. At any given site, there may not be any vacancies _at all_ in your swimmer's age bracket (even though some of the practice groups overlap in age ranges). Even continuing swimmers who are overqualified for the next practice group up have to wait until slots are open.

That is why you definitely want to schedule two tryouts. There are usually two big tryout dates in July. Occasional other tryout opportunities sometimes are mentioned, but never at our site--we're not at Rockville, and I think sometimes they might have an off-cycle tryout. Others can correct me.

Does that mean they retain kids from year to year who are already there even if they are significantly slower than potential newcomers?

Yes. But at the same time the kids who don't improve eventually can't keep up happily enough to enjoy what they are doing, so there is a kind of natural attrition when they move on to other activities instead. This in turn opens up a few spots for new swimmers, but it does indeed become harder to "break in" with every passing year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You need to apply for several and the one your child gets into is best. Its very hard to get in just because there are so many kids and so few slots.

For 11-12 its very hard as someone has to drop out and it depends on how many mini's move up.

It took us multiple tryouts to get a spot.

What kind of times would you need to get in at this level? Would a swimmer with lots of AA and a few AAA be in pretty easily?

PP was right in indicating that the issue may not be times, it may be spaces. At any given site, there may not be any vacancies _at all_ in your swimmer's age bracket (even though some of the practice groups overlap in age ranges). Even continuing swimmers who are overqualified for the next practice group up have to wait until slots are open.

That is why you definitely want to schedule two tryouts. There are usually two big tryout dates in July. Occasional other tryout opportunities sometimes are mentioned, but never at our site--we're not at Rockville, and I think sometimes they might have an off-cycle tryout. Others can correct me.

Does that mean they retain kids from year to year who are already there even if they are significantly slower than potential newcomers?

Yes, swim is unique in that respect. Once you have made a club team you never lose your spot with the club. You can lose a spot with a high performance group, but you are then just moved to a lower group, not cut from the club altogether.

This may be true for RMSC but definitely isn't true for other clubs. I've seen coaches ask kids to leave between seasons because they aren't progressing enough to go to the next group.

The clubs whose structures I know (and I only know a few) tend to have multiple off-ramps into less demanding workout groups for when swimmers' times don't improve as they age up. RMSC has that: by the time you reach the 15-18 age bracket, there are several different expectation levels at which you can be part of the club. I imagine many other clubs are the same.

+1, my swimmer is with one of the big clubs and I’ve never heard of anyone being asked not to return. They just don’t advance into groups with performance standards and funnel into the more low key HS group.

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Anonymous wrote:You need to apply for several and the one your child gets into is best. Its very hard to get in just because there are so many kids and so few slots.

For 11-12 its very hard as someone has to drop out and it depends on how many mini's move up.

It took us multiple tryouts to get a spot.

What kind of times would you need to get in at this level? Would a swimmer with lots of AA and a few AAA be in pretty easily?

PP was right in indicating that the issue may not be times, it may be spaces. At any given site, there may not be any vacancies _at all_ in your swimmer's age bracket (even though some of the practice groups overlap in age ranges). Even continuing swimmers who are overqualified for the next practice group up have to wait until slots are open.

That is why you definitely want to schedule two tryouts. There are usually two big tryout dates in July. Occasional other tryout opportunities sometimes are mentioned, but never at our site--we're not at Rockville, and I think sometimes they might have an off-cycle tryout. Others can correct me.

Does that mean they retain kids from year to year who are already there even if they are significantly slower than potential newcomers?

Yes, swim is unique in that respect. Once you have made a club team you never lose your spot with the club. You can lose a spot with a high performance group, but you are then just moved to a lower group, not cut from the club altogether.

This may be true for RMSC but definitely isn't true for other clubs. I've seen coaches ask kids to leave between seasons because they aren't progressing enough to go to the next group.

The clubs whose structures I know (and I only know a few) tend to have multiple off-ramps into less demanding workout groups for when swimmers' times don't improve as they age up. RMSC has that: by the time you reach the 15-18 age bracket, there are several different expectation levels at which you can be part of the club. I imagine many other clubs are the same.

I know of plenty of clubs that have a lower key group for 15-18. I’m not aware of any with that option for 11-14.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You need to apply for several and the one your child gets into is best. Its very hard to get in just because there are so many kids and so few slots.

For 11-12 its very hard as someone has to drop out and it depends on how many mini's move up.

It took us multiple tryouts to get a spot.

What kind of times would you need to get in at this level? Would a swimmer with lots of AA and a few AAA be in pretty easily?

PP was right in indicating that the issue may not be times, it may be spaces. At any given site, there may not be any vacancies _at all_ in your swimmer's age bracket (even though some of the practice groups overlap in age ranges). Even continuing swimmers who are overqualified for the next practice group up have to wait until slots are open.

That is why you definitely want to schedule two tryouts. There are usually two big tryout dates in July. Occasional other tryout opportunities sometimes are mentioned, but never at our site--we're not at Rockville, and I think sometimes they might have an off-cycle tryout. Others can correct me.

Does that mean they retain kids from year to year who are already there even if they are significantly slower than potential newcomers?

Yes, swim is unique in that respect. Once you have made a club team you never lose your spot with the club. You can lose a spot with a high performance group, but you are then just moved to a lower group, not cut from the club altogether.

This may be true for RMSC but definitely isn't true for other clubs. I've seen coaches ask kids to leave between seasons because they aren't progressing enough to go to the next group.

The clubs whose structures I know (and I only know a few) tend to have multiple off-ramps into less demanding workout groups for when swimmers' times don't improve as they age up. RMSC has that: by the time you reach the 15-18 age bracket, there are several different expectation levels at which you can be part of the club. I imagine many other clubs are the same.

I know of plenty of clubs that have a lower key group for 15-18. I’m not aware of any with that option for 11-14.

The lower groups for the Oder kids are profitable. The higher intense groups (which are more expensive) cost much more than the fees to run

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You need to apply for several and the one your child gets into is best. Its very hard to get in just because there are so many kids and so few slots.

For 11-12 its very hard as someone has to drop out and it depends on how many mini's move up.

It took us multiple tryouts to get a spot.

What kind of times would you need to get in at this level? Would a swimmer with lots of AA and a few AAA be in pretty easily?

PP was right in indicating that the issue may not be times, it may be spaces. At any given site, there may not be any vacancies _at all_ in your swimmer's age bracket (even though some of the practice groups overlap in age ranges). Even continuing swimmers who are overqualified for the next practice group up have to wait until slots are open.

That is why you definitely want to schedule two tryouts. There are usually two big tryout dates in July. Occasional other tryout opportunities sometimes are mentioned, but never at our site--we're not at Rockville, and I think sometimes they might have an off-cycle tryout. Others can correct me.

Does that mean they retain kids from year to year who are already there even if they are significantly slower than potential newcomers?

Yes, swim is unique in that respect. Once you have made a club team you never lose your spot with the club. You can lose a spot with a high performance group, but you are then just moved to a lower group, not cut from the club altogether.

This may be true for RMSC but definitely isn't true for other clubs. I've seen coaches ask kids to leave between seasons because they aren't progressing enough to go to the next group.

The clubs whose structures I know (and I only know a few) tend to have multiple off-ramps into less demanding workout groups for when swimmers' times don't improve as they age up. RMSC has that: by the time you reach the 15-18 age bracket, there are several different expectation levels at which you can be part of the club. I imagine many other clubs are the same.

I know of plenty of clubs that have a lower key group for 15-18. I’m not aware of any with that option for 11-14.

RMSC does (starting at age 9)

[Anonymous]

Do a search in these forums- it really depends on the practice group.

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Anonymous wrote:You need to apply for several and the one your child gets into is best. Its very hard to get in just because there are so many kids and so few slots.

For 11-12 its very hard as someone has to drop out and it depends on how many mini's move up.

It took us multiple tryouts to get a spot.

What kind of times would you need to get in at this level? Would a swimmer with lots of AA and a few AAA be in pretty easily?

PP was right in indicating that the issue may not be times, it may be spaces. At any given site, there may not be any vacancies _at all_ in your swimmer's age bracket (even though some of the practice groups overlap in age ranges). Even continuing swimmers who are overqualified for the next practice group up have to wait until slots are open.

That is why you definitely want to schedule two tryouts. There are usually two big tryout dates in July. Occasional other tryout opportunities sometimes are mentioned, but never at our site--we're not at Rockville, and I think sometimes they might have an off-cycle tryout. Others can correct me.

Does that mean they retain kids from year to year who are already there even if they are significantly slower than potential newcomers?

Yes, swim is unique in that respect. Once you have made a club team you never lose your spot with the club. You can lose a spot with a high performance group, but you are then just moved to a lower group, not cut from the club altogether.

This may be true for RMSC but definitely isn't true for other clubs. I've seen coaches ask kids to leave between seasons because they aren't progressing enough to go to the next group.

The clubs whose structures I know (and I only know a few) tend to have multiple off-ramps into less demanding workout groups for when swimmers' times don't improve as they age up. RMSC has that: by the time you reach the 15-18 age bracket, there are several different expectation levels at which you can be part of the club. I imagine many other clubs are the same.

I know of plenty of clubs that have a lower key group for 15-18. I’m not aware of any with that option for 11-14.

The lower groups for the Oder kids are profitable. The higher intense groups (which are more expensive) cost much more than the fees to run

Yes, it's well known that they recruit certain kids as cash cows to fund their trips to nationals.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You need to apply for several and the one your child gets into is best. Its very hard to get in just because there are so many kids and so few slots.

For 11-12 its very hard as someone has to drop out and it depends on how many mini's move up.

It took us multiple tryouts to get a spot.

What kind of times would you need to get in at this level? Would a swimmer with lots of AA and a few AAA be in pretty easily?

PP was right in indicating that the issue may not be times, it may be spaces. At any given site, there may not be any vacancies _at all_ in your swimmer's age bracket (even though some of the practice groups overlap in age ranges). Even continuing swimmers who are overqualified for the next practice group up have to wait until slots are open.

That is why you definitely want to schedule two tryouts. There are usually two big tryout dates in July. Occasional other tryout opportunities sometimes are mentioned, but never at our site--we're not at Rockville, and I think sometimes they might have an off-cycle tryout. Others can correct me.

Does that mean they retain kids from year to year who are already there even if they are significantly slower than potential newcomers?

Yes, swim is unique in that respect. Once you have made a club team you never lose your spot with the club. You can lose a spot with a high performance group, but you are then just moved to a lower group, not cut from the club altogether.

This may be true for RMSC but definitely isn't true for other clubs. I've seen coaches ask kids to leave between seasons because they aren't progressing enough to go to the next group.

The clubs whose structures I know (and I only know a few) tend to have multiple off-ramps into less demanding workout groups for when swimmers' times don't improve as they age up. RMSC has that: by the time you reach the 15-18 age bracket, there are several different expectation levels at which you can be part of the club. I imagine many other clubs are the same.

I know of plenty of clubs that have a lower key group for 15-18. I’m not aware of any with that option for 11-14.

Sea Devils has it.

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Anonymous wrote:You need to apply for several and the one your child gets into is best. Its very hard to get in just because there are so many kids and so few slots.

For 11-12 its very hard as someone has to drop out and it depends on how many mini's move up.

It took us multiple tryouts to get a spot.

What kind of times would you need to get in at this level? Would a swimmer with lots of AA and a few AAA be in pretty easily?

PP was right in indicating that the issue may not be times, it may be spaces. At any given site, there may not be any vacancies _at all_ in your swimmer's age bracket (even though some of the practice groups overlap in age ranges). Even continuing swimmers who are overqualified for the next practice group up have to wait until slots are open.

That is why you definitely want to schedule two tryouts. There are usually two big tryout dates in July. Occasional other tryout opportunities sometimes are mentioned, but never at our site--we're not at Rockville, and I think sometimes they might have an off-cycle tryout. Others can correct me.

Does that mean they retain kids from year to year who are already there even if they are significantly slower than potential newcomers?

Yes, swim is unique in that respect. Once you have made a club team you never lose your spot with the club. You can lose a spot with a high performance group, but you are then just moved to a lower group, not cut from the club altogether.

This may be true for RMSC but definitely isn't true for other clubs. I've seen coaches ask kids to leave between seasons because they aren't progressing enough to go to the next group.

The clubs whose structures I know (and I only know a few) tend to have multiple off-ramps into less demanding workout groups for when swimmers' times don't improve as they age up. RMSC has that: by the time you reach the 15-18 age bracket, there are several different expectation levels at which you can be part of the club. I imagine many other clubs are the same.

I know of plenty of clubs that have a lower key group for 15-18. I’m not aware of any with that option for 11-14.

Sea Devils has it.

The entire Sea Devils club is essentially a lower key option.