H is obsessed with UFOs and it's impacting how I feel about him

Anonymous
I find this whole thing fascinating!

I am not all that really into UFO-type stories, but if he’s read some things that made him realize that our govt knows more than what they disclose about it, I’d bet that made him more likely to view claims of “it’s a conspiracy!” with more of a mind that is open to hearing it than someone who thinks the whole UFO thing is ridiculous and fake.

For example, those who have read the now-declassified Operation Northwoods document , are much more likely to fathom that certain agencies in our government could have orchestrated 9/11. Others will roll their eyes and refuse to think that’s even a possibility.

But, there have definitely been studies to show that it’s much easier to fool a huge number of people than it is to convince that same number that they have been a victim of a hoax or a huge lie.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Be careful, he will start going down the far right/crazy people pipeline soon if he hasn’t already.


OP. I do worry about this. He’s falling for videos that are obviously not UFOs and have been debunked by experts. But if I point out that experts have given an explanation, he freaks out.

I know that’s just a small step away from believing in other conspiracy theories.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:There have been congressional hearings about this saying these UAPs are not from Earth and also that America has found “alien biological.” We’re all so distracted by the political shitshow that it’s not getting that much traction but your husband is not really being that far fetched and maybe you have some fundamental respect lacking there.

My husband loves horses. I think it’s silly. I’m not losing respect or being a jerk about it. I love anime and he thinks that’s silly. Intolerance will cost you the marriage.

Also I thought the jellyfish UAP looked pretty convincing.


Biologist here. No one is disputing there are alien lifeforms. They're bacteria. Maybe some of them are even alive on their planets. We're expecting most lifeforms we find on other moons and planets to be dead - fossil traces.

NO ONE with any sense of probability believes in little green men, PP, or any multicellular alien capable of high-order thinking and immense technological advances.

Please do not compare liking horses to believing in Aliens. That's just MAGA-level stupid.


You have no idea what you’re talking about.

As noted above, the leaders in the US intelligence community — multiple of them — have testified before Congress and under oath about incontrovertible proof of UAPs that operate at a level beyond any human made craft and confirmed the recovery of crashed objects and non-human biologics. The consensus view is that there is non-human higher intelligence at a minimum monitoring our planet.

“Biologist here.” How tedious. Apparently not one with reading comprehension skills.


It makes zero sense that there are aliens who don’t want us to know they are here yet keep being seen, and have physics-defying technology yet keep crashing into the ground.


Who said they don’t want to be seen?
Who said “keeps crashing”?

Nobody but you. Total straw man arguments.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Be careful, he will start going down the far right/crazy people pipeline soon if he hasn’t already.


OP. I do worry about this. He’s falling for videos that are obviously not UFOs and have been debunked by experts. But if I point out that experts have given an explanation, he freaks out.

I know that’s just a small step away from believing in other conspiracy theories.


Yes far safer if he only believes whatever MSNBC tells him he’s allowed to believe. 🙄
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There have been congressional hearings about this saying these UAPs are not from Earth and also that America has found “alien biological.” We’re all so distracted by the political shitshow that it’s not getting that much traction but your husband is not really being that far fetched and maybe you have some fundamental respect lacking there.

My husband loves horses. I think it’s silly. I’m not losing respect or being a jerk about it. I love anime and he thinks that’s silly. Intolerance will cost you the marriage.

Also I thought the jellyfish UAP looked pretty convincing.


Biologist here. No one is disputing there are alien lifeforms. They're bacteria. Maybe some of them are even alive on their planets. We're expecting most lifeforms we find on other moons and planets to be dead - fossil traces.

NO ONE with any sense of probability believes in little green men, PP, or any multicellular alien capable of high-order thinking and immense technological advances.

Please do not compare liking horses to believing in Aliens. That's just MAGA-level stupid.


You have no idea what you’re talking about.

As noted above, the leaders in the US intelligence community — multiple of them — have testified before Congress and under oath about incontrovertible proof of UAPs that operate at a level beyond any human made craft and confirmed the recovery of crashed objects and non-human biologics. The consensus view is that there is non-human higher intelligence at a minimum monitoring our planet.

“Biologist here.” How tedious. Apparently not one with reading comprehension skills.


Biologist you sneered at. Yeah, sorry, that little farce in Congress was just that. A farce. Just because people testify in front of elected representatives, doesn't make it serious. This was extremely unserious. If you believe them, more fool you.


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There have been congressional hearings about this saying these UAPs are not from Earth and also that America has found “alien biological.” We’re all so distracted by the political shitshow that it’s not getting that much traction but your husband is not really being that far fetched and maybe you have some fundamental respect lacking there.

My husband loves horses. I think it’s silly. I’m not losing respect or being a jerk about it. I love anime and he thinks that’s silly. Intolerance will cost you the marriage.

Also I thought the jellyfish UAP looked pretty convincing.


Biologist here. No one is disputing there are alien lifeforms. They're bacteria. Maybe some of them are even alive on their planets. We're expecting most lifeforms we find on other moons and planets to be dead - fossil traces.

NO ONE with any sense of probability believes in little green men, PP, or any multicellular alien capable of high-order thinking and immense technological advances.

Please do not compare liking horses to believing in Aliens. That's just MAGA-level stupid.


You have no idea what you’re talking about.

As noted above, the leaders in the US intelligence community — multiple of them — have testified before Congress and under oath about incontrovertible proof of UAPs that operate at a level beyond any human made craft and confirmed the recovery of crashed objects and non-human biologics. The consensus view is that there is non-human higher intelligence at a minimum monitoring our planet.

“Biologist here.” How tedious. Apparently not one with reading comprehension skills.


Biologist you sneered at. Yeah, sorry, that little farce in Congress was just that. A farce. Just because people testify in front of elected representatives, doesn't make it serious. This was extremely unserious. If you believe them, more fool you.




Thanks biologist. I’m sure convinced now!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Be careful, he will start going down the far right/crazy people pipeline soon if he hasn’t already.


OP. I do worry about this. He’s falling for videos that are obviously not UFOs and have been debunked by experts. But if I point out that experts have given an explanation, he freaks out.

I know that’s just a small step away from believing in other conspiracy theories.


Yes far safer if he only believes whatever MSNBC tells him he’s allowed to believe. 🙄


Do your own research right? Fool
Anonymous
This reads like Reddit copypasta
Anonymous
OP,

Is this your thread?

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1229805.page


Either way I stand by my suggestion you urge him to be evaluated by a doctor this could be a symptom of something such as a tumor, the start of cognitive decline or mental illness.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP,

Is this your thread?

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1229805.page


Either way I stand by my suggestion you urge him to be evaluated by a doctor this could be a symptom of something such as a tumor, the start of cognitive decline or mental illness.


OP. Yup. I thought he had moved on from the aliens stuff but the last couple weeks it came out again. And now I’m especially worried he’s falling for very obvious hoaxes AND he gets irrationally angry at me for not agreeing.

Weirdly enough, this is sort of a trend where he’ll become obsessed with something and get angry if my opinion differs. A couple years ago he became obsessed with the Elizabeth Holmes case and would get SO angry if I had a different opinion.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP,

Is this your thread?

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1229805.page


Either way I stand by my suggestion you urge him to be evaluated by a doctor this could be a symptom of something such as a tumor, the start of cognitive decline or mental illness.


OP. Yup. I thought he had moved on from the aliens stuff but the last couple weeks it came out again. And now I’m especially worried he’s falling for very obvious hoaxes AND he gets irrationally angry at me for not agreeing.

Weirdly enough, this is sort of a trend where he’ll become obsessed with something and get angry if my opinion differs. A couple years ago he became obsessed with the Elizabeth Holmes case and would get SO angry if I had a different opinion.


Sounds a bit autistic.

Was he right?
Anonymous
Let people enjoy things, geez.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Be careful, he will start going down the far right/crazy people pipeline soon if he hasn’t already.


OP. I do worry about this. He’s falling for videos that are obviously not UFOs and have been debunked by experts. But if I point out that experts have given an explanation, he freaks out.

I know that’s just a small step away from believing in other conspiracy theories.

I agree. Don't bring up this part but appeal to his knowledge as a scientist. And then don't agree to his ideas. I had to do this with someone. I said, I'll never agree to your ideas about this and I think people need pushback.

I got into reading about abductions, John Mack, etc., a long time ago. I don't believe any of it and I don't think there is alien life out there. But it was an interesting topic for a while because it was so weird. The more I read, the less I believe it. I think anything credibly "unknown" is most likely a military craft, ours, something secret, spies. For instance I think people probably saw B-2 bombers which could look like a UFO, as their shape is not like a usual jet, secretly flying years before they were shown to the public. Of course the military is not going to confirm or deny.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP,

Is this your thread?

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1229805.page


Either way I stand by my suggestion you urge him to be evaluated by a doctor this could be a symptom of something such as a tumor, the start of cognitive decline or mental illness.


OP. Yup. I thought he had moved on from the aliens stuff but the last couple weeks it came out again. And now I’m especially worried he’s falling for very obvious hoaxes AND he gets irrationally angry at me for not agreeing.

Weirdly enough, this is sort of a trend where he’ll become obsessed with something and get angry if my opinion differs. A couple years ago he became obsessed with the Elizabeth Holmes case and would get SO angry if I had a different opinion.

You just have to shrug, say, agree to disagree and ignore. Don't get emotional.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:NO ONE with any sense of probability believes in little green men, PP, or any multicellular alien capable of high-order thinking and immense technological advances.

Please do not compare liking horses to believing in Aliens. That's just MAGA-level stupid.


You do realize that humans themselves are a direct counterexample to what you're saying here, right? According to you, humans do not exist.
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