Reapplying AAP for third grader this year

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Anonymous wrote:What iready scores would you consider to be in the “low” range for AAP?

If the scores are 90th percentile and above in both math and reading, the HOPE is high, and the work samples are strong, I think your kid has a chance.

But it’s totally fine, if not.

Look: not every child is cut out for AAP.

Meet your child where they are, and accept them for who they really are. Getting into AAP or not isnt the end of the world.

Please do not project your own tendencies onto your child.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What iready scores would you consider to be in the “low” range for AAP?

If the scores are 90th percentile and above in both math and reading, the HOPE is high, and the work samples are strong, I think your kid has a chance.

But it’s totally fine, if not.

Look: not every child is cut out for AAP.

Meet your child where they are, and accept them for who they really are. Getting into AAP or not isnt the end of the world.

Please do not project your own tendencies onto your child.

Sure, but OP's kid did have a 97th percentile CogAT score and a 98th percentile NNAT. If OP didn't prep their kid for the tests, these scores look like a kid who should be academically advanced. If OP's kid is advanced in math and reading, but isn't taking the iready seriously, OP needs to address that. If the kid isn't advanced in math and reading but has relatively high test scores, it could be a red flag for a LD.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What iready scores would you consider to be in the “low” range for AAP?

If the scores are 90th percentile and above in both math and reading, the HOPE is high, and the work samples are strong, I think your kid has a chance.

But it’s totally fine, if not.

Look: not every child is cut out for AAP.

Meet your child where they are, and accept them for who they really are. Getting into AAP or not isnt the end of the world.

Please do not project your own tendencies onto your child.

Sure, but OP's kid did have a 97th percentile CogAT score and a 98th percentile NNAT. If OP didn't prep their kid for the tests, these scores look like a kid who should be academically advanced. If OP's kid is advanced in math and reading, but isn't taking the iready seriously, OP needs to address that. If the kid isn't advanced in math and reading but has relatively high test scores, it could be a red flag for a LD.


Those are not high scores for AAP, they aren't even in-pool at many schools now. Further, If the iready and HOPE eval isn't supporting the borderline scores, they don't appear on paper to be a kid who "needs" advanced curriculum.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What iready scores would you consider to be in the “low” range for AAP?

If the scores are 90th percentile and above in both math and reading, the HOPE is high, and the work samples are strong, I think your kid has a chance.

But it’s totally fine, if not.

Look: not every child is cut out for AAP.

Meet your child where they are, and accept them for who they really are. Getting into AAP or not isnt the end of the world.

Please do not project your own tendencies onto your child.

Sure, but OP's kid did have a 97th percentile CogAT score and a 98th percentile NNAT. If OP didn't prep their kid for the tests, these scores look like a kid who should be academically advanced. If OP's kid is advanced in math and reading, but isn't taking the iready seriously, OP needs to address that. If the kid isn't advanced in math and reading but has relatively high test scores, it could be a red flag for a LD.


Those are not high scores for AAP, they aren't even in-pool at many schools now. Further, If the iready and HOPE eval isn't supporting the borderline scores, they don't appear on paper to be a kid who "needs" advanced curriculum.

You missed my point. I'm not suggesting that OP's kid belongs in an advanced academics program. I'm saying that if an unprepped kid scores around the 97th percentile on ability tests, but much lower on achievement tests, there is an issue. The kid ought to be academically ahead if they have high natural ability. It's a red flag that OP should look into if the kid got those scores without prep and is testing significantly lower on achievement tests.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What iready scores would you consider to be in the “low” range for AAP?

If the scores are 90th percentile and above in both math and reading, the HOPE is high, and the work samples are strong, I think your kid has a chance.

But it’s totally fine, if not.

Look: not every child is cut out for AAP.

Meet your child where they are, and accept them for who they really are. Getting into AAP or not isnt the end of the world.

Please do not project your own tendencies onto your child.

Sure, but OP's kid did have a 97th percentile CogAT score and a 98th percentile NNAT. If OP didn't prep their kid for the tests, these scores look like a kid who should be academically advanced. If OP's kid is advanced in math and reading, but isn't taking the iready seriously, OP needs to address that. If the kid isn't advanced in math and reading but has relatively high test scores, it could be a red flag for a LD.


Those are not high scores for AAP, they aren't even in-pool at many schools now. Further, If the iready and HOPE eval isn't supporting the borderline scores, they don't appear on paper to be a kid who "needs" advanced curriculum.

You missed my point. I'm not suggesting that OP's kid belongs in an advanced academics program. I'm saying that if an unprepped kid scores around the 97th percentile on ability tests, but much lower on achievement tests, there is an issue. The kid ought to be academically ahead if they have high natural ability. It's a red flag that OP should look into if the kid got those scores without prep and is testing significantly lower on achievement tests.


Academically ahead of much of the nation but not necessarily much of FCPS. Percentiles are not the most meaningful metric here.
Anonymous
That said, I think PP is right. Unprepped test scores may be lower but the child could actually be better suited to AAP than the perfect-scoring prepped kids. It depends on what the whole package is.
Anonymous
SOLs
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A 3rd grader won't have SOLs until the end of the year - the AAP application packet for next year is due in December.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Last year, my child didn’t get into AAP, and I’d like to reapply this year. He is currently in 3rd grade. Besides the iReady and HOPE scores, what other test scores are used to determine eligibility? Does my child need to take the CogAT in 3rd grade? Thank you!


The best route would be for your child to score higher on the CogAt, because that would be a strong indication she actually belongs in AAP.

Otherwise, there’s nothing at all wrong with regular classes in FCPS.


+1


Please do not push your kids into AAP if they’re Cogat, IReady, and HOPE scores all point to general education being the right place for your child.

You will only end up making your child miserable and frustrated if you push them into something they are not ready for (or do not want to do).


Oh sweetie, the only difference between AAP and General Education is math. If OP's child is good at math, they'll do great in AAP. Personally, we have opted out because I don't want to send our child to the Center and I don't want them stuck with the exact same class for four years. It's a nightmare when LLIV kids hit middle school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Last year, my child didn’t get into AAP, and I’d like to reapply this year. He is currently in 3rd grade. Besides the iReady and HOPE scores, what other test scores are used to determine eligibility? Does my child need to take the CogAT in 3rd grade? Thank you!


The best route would be for your child to score higher on the CogAt, because that would be a strong indication she actually belongs in AAP.

Otherwise, there’s nothing at all wrong with regular classes in FCPS.


+1


Please do not push your kids into AAP if they’re Cogat, IReady, and HOPE scores all point to general education being the right place for your child.

You will only end up making your child miserable and frustrated if you push them into something they are not ready for (or do not want to do).


Oh sweetie, the only difference between AAP and General Education is math. If OP's child is good at math, they'll do great in AAP. Personally, we have opted out because I don't want to send our child to the Center and I don't want them stuck with the exact same class for four years. It's a nightmare when LLIV kids hit middle school.


I'll bite. How are kids stuck with the same class? The center has two AAP classes, our local has two general education classes. The kids are mixed in the two classes throughout elementary, whether the two classes were AAP in a center or General in local. What's the difference?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Last year, my child didn’t get into AAP, and I’d like to reapply this year. He is currently in 3rd grade. Besides the iReady and HOPE scores, what other test scores are used to determine eligibility? Does my child need to take the CogAT in 3rd grade? Thank you!


The best route would be for your child to score higher on the CogAt, because that would be a strong indication she actually belongs in AAP.

Otherwise, there’s nothing at all wrong with regular classes in FCPS.


+1


Please do not push your kids into AAP if they’re Cogat, IReady, and HOPE scores all point to general education being the right place for your child.

You will only end up making your child miserable and frustrated if you push them into something they are not ready for (or do not want to do).


Oh sweetie, the only difference between AAP and General Education is math. If OP's child is good at math, they'll do great in AAP. Personally, we have opted out because I don't want to send our child to the Center and I don't want them stuck with the exact same class for four years. It's a nightmare when LLIV kids hit middle school.


Our center has 3-4 AAP classes per grade and middle school hasn’t been a nightmare for my AAP 7th grader. What does that even mean?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Last year, my child didn’t get into AAP, and I’d like to reapply this year. He is currently in 3rd grade. Besides the iReady and HOPE scores, what other test scores are used to determine eligibility? Does my child need to take the CogAT in 3rd grade? Thank you!


The best route would be for your child to score higher on the CogAt, because that would be a strong indication she actually belongs in AAP.

Otherwise, there’s nothing at all wrong with regular classes in FCPS.


+1


Please do not push your kids into AAP if they’re Cogat, IReady, and HOPE scores all point to general education being the right place for your child.

You will only end up making your child miserable and frustrated if you push them into something they are not ready for (or do not want to do).


Oh sweetie, the only difference between AAP and General Education is math. If OP's child is good at math, they'll do great in AAP. Personally, we have opted out because I don't want to send our child to the Center and I don't want them stuck with the exact same class for four years. It's a nightmare when LLIV kids hit middle school.


I'll bite. How are kids stuck with the same class? The center has two AAP classes, our local has two general education classes. The kids are mixed in the two classes throughout elementary, whether the two classes were AAP in a center or General in local. What's the difference?


Schools with an LLIV program have one LLIV class. The kids in AAP at their local school (no one from our school goes to the Center) are in the same class with the same kids from 3rd - 6th grade. It gets very clique-y and there can definitely be a "mean kids" atmosphere if your child does not fit in and if your child is in general education and their friends end up in AAP, then they stop being friends because why bother, they won't ever be in the same class again.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Last year, my child didn’t get into AAP, and I’d like to reapply this year. He is currently in 3rd grade. Besides the iReady and HOPE scores, what other test scores are used to determine eligibility? Does my child need to take the CogAT in 3rd grade? Thank you!


The best route would be for your child to score higher on the CogAt, because that would be a strong indication she actually belongs in AAP.

Otherwise, there’s nothing at all wrong with regular classes in FCPS.


+1


Please do not push your kids into AAP if they’re Cogat, IReady, and HOPE scores all point to general education being the right place for your child.

You will only end up making your child miserable and frustrated if you push them into something they are not ready for (or do not want to do).


Most schools have LLIV classes. I would never send my child to the Center school.
Oh sweetie, the only difference between AAP and General Education is math. If OP's child is good at math, they'll do great in AAP. Personally, we have opted out because I don't want to send our child to the Center and I don't want them stuck with the exact same class for four years. It's a nightmare when LLIV kids hit middle school.


Our center has 3-4 AAP classes per grade and middle school hasn’t been a nightmare for my AAP 7th grader. What does that even mean?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Last year, my child didn’t get into AAP, and I’d like to reapply this year. He is currently in 3rd grade. Besides the iReady and HOPE scores, what other test scores are used to determine eligibility? Does my child need to take the CogAT in 3rd grade? Thank you!


The best route would be for your child to score higher on the CogAt, because that would be a strong indication she actually belongs in AAP.

Otherwise, there’s nothing at all wrong with regular classes in FCPS.


+1


Please do not push your kids into AAP if they’re Cogat, IReady, and HOPE scores all point to general education being the right place for your child.

You will only end up making your child miserable and frustrated if you push them into something they are not ready for (or do not want to do).



Oh sweetie, the only difference between AAP and General Education is math. If OP's child is good at math, they'll do great in AAP. Personally, we have opted out because I don't want to send our child to the Center and I don't want them stuck with the exact same class for four years. It's a nightmare when LLIV kids hit middle school.


Our center has 3-4 AAP classes per grade and middle school hasn’t been a nightmare for my AAP 7th grader. What does that even mean?

Most schools have LLIV classes. I would never send my child to the Center school.
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