Can someone explain the reasoning behind the idea that women control men?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Yes, I think women control men. Women are manipulative and use "tricks" to get men to do what they want. What planet are you from? You can change people's minds and the easiest is to change a mind of someone close to you. Obviously women use sex to make men do what they want all the time. If you deny this, you're lying. I'm a woman and I can recognize it all the time (I'm not a feminine woman at all and a scientist to give you an idea, with a "male brain", and I hate manipulation). Also most women would deny this, yes. Have you never heard of men being "pussy whipped"?! Often people don't believe the s* they agreed to while in a relationship until it's over. I'm certain you have power over your husband and his decisions.


If it were so easy to change someone's mind, especially your spouse's, there would be no "Reationship Discussion" threads with its endless topics about husbands who don't change their lifestyles after kids come along, or any of its multitude of variants.
If only it were that easy.

Anonymous
I’m the western culture, wives do enjoy quite a bit of control over their husbands.
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Anonymous wrote:Uhhh, misogyny. That's the answer. 99% of women (and humans) aren't smart enough to be controlling anybody. If someone complains that women are controlling their husbands, the short answer is because they hate women.


+1 most people barely control themselves.


I've noticed that people who can't control themselves often want to control others.


This is a very astute observation. I wonder what the psychology is behind that.


It's a type of projection.
Anonymous
I never understood this or believed it until I had a teenage son. Now, seeing him interact with girls… I think teenage boys (and I guess men) are so much less socially savvy than women that things just take them more by surprise/they are more clueless. Combine this with the fact that men are often the pursuers… When a boy likes a girl… It’s easy for her to wrap him around her little finger. When a girl likes the boy, if he doesn’t like her back, often nothing will happen.
Anonymous
Men want to control women. If they can't, they get upset. It upsets them even more if they think we control them.

Obviously not all men. But enough of them.

If you're a guy who thinks your wife is controlling you, ask yourself why. Are you incapable of handling your stuff? Are you bad at organizing? Bad at getting bills paid or keeping a schedule? If she is in fact running your household because she is better at doing that, maybe accept that. It's ok. We all have our gifts.
Anonymous
People would say I’m controlling of H. Reality is that I just have strong boundaries - if you don’t contribute to half the domestic work or handle finances like an adult, I won’t be in a relationship with you.

So I think it’s more of women have any boundaries whatsoever and will leave if a man doesn’t respect them, she’s labeled as controlling.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Yes, I think women control men. Women are manipulative and use "tricks" to get men to do what they want. What planet are you from? You can change people's minds and the easiest is to change a mind of someone close to you. Obviously women use sex to make men do what they want all the time. If you deny this, you're lying. I'm a woman and I can recognize it all the time (I'm not a feminine woman at all and a scientist to give you an idea, with a "male brain", and I hate manipulation). Also most women would deny this, yes. Have you never heard of men being "pussy whipped"?! Often people don't believe the s* they agreed to while in a relationship until it's over. I'm certain you have power over your husband and his decisions.


Oh look the pick me girl arrived.

Having sex with someone is not the same as holding a gun to their head and forcing them. If you think women control men with sex - honey, it’s not that hard for men to go get sex. If it’s sex they want, they can leave and get it elsewhere.

If women could get their husbands to do whatever they wanted by promising sex, Trump would not have won.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:In my marriage, DH is the controlling person. He is o my happy when he gets his way, and he stops at nothing to get it.


This was my marriage and I left it. So in that way I guess he didn't control me.
Anonymous
Look at all of the women threatening to withhold sex from men that voted for Trump.

Then out of the other side of their mouths they will complain that men only view them as sex objects and that they don't use sex to control men.

Stop the absurdity.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Men want to control women. If they can't, they get upset. It upsets them even more if they think we control them.

Obviously not all men. But enough of them.

If you're a guy who thinks your wife is controlling you, ask yourself why. Are you incapable of handling your stuff? Are you bad at organizing? Bad at getting bills paid or keeping a schedule? If she is in fact running your household because she is better at doing that, maybe accept that. It's ok. We all have our gifts.


Yes! A lot of men are also upset that women don't need men as much as in the past, hence the angst over women choosing to be single or take control of their reproductive health. Historically (RECENT history), marriage and children have been societal instruments to control women. Financial control was also built into our society until recently - in the form of lower paying jobs for women, the inability to obtain credit, etc. That's what makes it so galling that there is a concerted effort to go back to the times when women were more likely to marry and have children young and then stay at home instead of fostering independent careers: these efforts keep women under the control of men.
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Anonymous wrote:Uhhh, misogyny. That's the answer. 99% of women (and humans) aren't smart enough to be controlling anybody. If someone complains that women are controlling their husbands, the short answer is because they hate women.


+1 most people barely control themselves.


I've noticed that people who can't control themselves often want to control others.


Agree 💯
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:In my marriage, I have often received unwarranted and invalid concerns from my MIL that I "control" my husband. Or that in general women have some power over the men that love them especially when perceived by other women.

You hear about how Meghan Markle made Harry leave the monarchy and its all her fault that Harry and William no longer are on speaking terms.

Carol Middleton orchestrated Kate's marriage to William...etc

Its always other women who accuse other women of doing this.

I can tell you, I have no power or control over my husband. I can't imagine making him do something without his will and full cooperation!!

I never understood this. Do other women somehow control their men in ways I am unaware?


Women do and MIL is upset you took control from her. MIL-DIL tension is a power struggle.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Men want to control women. If they can't, they get upset. It upsets them even more if they think we control them.


Men want women to be nice to them and have sex with them. Very controlling. Basically abusive. Very common for man-babies to get upset when their wives aren’t nice to them and stop having sex with them - this reflects their innate sense of entitlement and privilege. Society must teach men never to expect women to be nice to them, have sex with them, or do anything for them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:In my marriage, DH is the controlling person. He is o my happy when he gets his way, and he stops at nothing to get it.


Same. He is super manipulative when he doesn't get his way. Number one tactic is stonewalling, but he also calls me names, whines, pouts, and rages. I've started to create a separate life for myself as I just can't anymore. I'm out as soon as our youngest leaves for college.
Anonymous
The shorthand is p ----- whipped
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