High School Grades - Can a teacher change an assignment from P to TA last minute

[Anonymous]

So when you were growing up and there was no online grading and no retakes, were your parents mad at the teachers for lousy grades or upset with the child?

Place the blame where it belongs. If your child did not get the grades YOU think they earned, talk to your child. It is absolutely ridiculous that a parent is upset for a grade dropping after their child did not even attempt the assignment. Get after your child, not the teacher!

Grades are supposed to be earned and not given. Tell your child to work harder next quarter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For all the posters referencing lazy teachers:

Teachers do most, if not all, of their grading in the evenings and over weekends. We are provided with no time at work to get this accomplished. That’s why grading takes time to get done. Is it okay? Definitely not. Grading should be done quickly so students can see results and make progress. But this is the natural result of a modern teacher workday; most of us work 11-12 hour days and still don’t get it all accomplished.

Want real change? Help us advocate for time at work to actually DO work.

We have several teachers this year who are just giving videos and not teaching. No real curriculum so it makes it impossible to guess what is next, especially when you have to hire tutors to supplement. Grading should be done within a week. If you don't like the job, quit. The grading and teaching haven't changed in 100 years.

[Anonymous]

My kid must submit Quarter grades for his college ED application, and he’s been told they matter a lot. He has worked so hard, and many teachers haven’t been able to keep up with the grading and he’s been in the dark, and there were some unpleasant surprises last week.

And you know what? His lovely caring teachers worked with him to figure out which assignments he could revise/redo to get a few more points, and his English teacher met with him to give feedback on his paper and will grade it before the Q officially ends.

Thank you, teachers. I know you are frustrated when you can’t get things graded, too, and I appreciate what you did for my son this week.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, has your child reached out to the teacher to find out what happened and what prompted the change?

OP here. Yes, she has but she has not heard back yet. The assignment was showing in Canvas as a P until yesterday evening. Then it became a TA. This was literally the only assignment she missed for all of her subjects and there were times she stayed until 4am to get the work done bc of the group nature of some of the assignments ( partners don’t share their part until midnight then she stayed up to pull everything together). That’s why it’s so crushing for her.

Ugh. Working in teams - it never gets easy. As a teacher, I would suggest your daughter share her leadership role in ensuring the group work was completed, even as other team members (don't have to name any names necessarily) turned in their work to her at the last minute.

That is something I would remember positively if a student shared that. It shows your student's commitment to the work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid must submit Quarter grades for his college ED application, and he’s been told they matter a lot. He has worked so hard, and many teachers haven’t been able to keep up with the grading and he’s been in the dark, and there were some unpleasant surprises last week.

And you know what? His lovely caring teachers worked with him to figure out which assignments he could revise/redo to get a few more points, and his English teacher met with him to give feedback on his paper and will grade it before the Q officially ends.

Thank you, teachers. I know you are frustrated when you can’t get things graded, too, and I appreciate what you did for my son this week.

Great. What school? Ours couldn't give less of a shit about it's students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So when you were growing up and there was no online grading and no retakes, were your parents mad at the teachers for lousy grades or upset with the child?

Place the blame where it belongs. If your child did not get the grades YOU think they earned, talk to your child. It is absolutely ridiculous that a parent is upset for a grade dropping after their child did not even attempt the assignment. Get after your child, not the teacher!

Grades are supposed to be earned and not given. Tell your child to work harder next quarter.

Hopefully you're not a teacher because there is some expectation that a student doesn't just "work harder" but that a student examines their mistakes and then works smarter when they know better. That's where you come in by doing your job.

There should be some IQ test for people to be able to work in a school. But I suppose the test is implicit and if you're there, you've failed it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So when you were growing up and there was no online grading and no retakes, were your parents mad at the teachers for lousy grades or upset with the child?

Place the blame where it belongs. If your child did not get the grades YOU think they earned, talk to your child. It is absolutely ridiculous that a parent is upset for a grade dropping after their child did not even attempt the assignment. Get after your child, not the teacher!

Grades are supposed to be earned and not given. Tell your child to work harder next quarter.

Hopefully you're not a teacher because there is some expectation that a student doesn't just "work harder" but that a student examines their mistakes and then works smarter when they know better. That's where you come in by doing your job.

There should be some IQ test for people to be able to work in a school. But I suppose the test is implicit and if you're there, you've failed it.

I’m not a teacher. I’m a parent that expects my children to take ownership over their schoolwork and grades. When they don’t understand something, they are expected to ask for help during lunch or request a tutor from me. My children have not gotten all A’s, and that is okay.

But this idea that a child not getting an A due to a teacher not grading fast enough is ridiculous. They should be continually learning and growing, but there are summative assignments like tests and papers that show the understanding. The growth part comes during class and might not be seen at home or through grades. If a student does a homework assignment and doesn’t understand, it is their responsibility to request help before an assessment. These kids are high schoolers and need to advocate for themselves!

Not all kids will get A’s and that’s okay and to be expected. Use this experience to help your child grow to be more proactive in understanding each assignment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So when you were growing up and there was no online grading and no retakes, were your parents mad at the teachers for lousy grades or upset with the child?

Place the blame where it belongs. If your child did not get the grades YOU think they earned, talk to your child. It is absolutely ridiculous that a parent is upset for a grade dropping after their child did not even attempt the assignment. Get after your child, not the teacher!

Grades are supposed to be earned and not given. Tell your child to work harder next quarter.

Hopefully you're not a teacher because there is some expectation that a student doesn't just "work harder" but that a student examines their mistakes and then works smarter when they know better. That's where you come in by doing your job.

There should be some IQ test for people to be able to work in a school. But I suppose the test is implicit and if you're there, you've failed it.

I’m not a teacher. I’m a parent that expects my children to take ownership over their schoolwork and grades. When they don’t understand something, they are expected to ask for help during lunch or request a tutor from me. My children have not gotten all A’s, and that is okay.

But this idea that a child not getting an A due to a teacher not grading fast enough is ridiculous. They should be continually learning and growing, but there are summative assignments like tests and papers that show the understanding. The growth part comes during class and might not be seen at home or through grades. If a student does a homework assignment and doesn’t understand, it is their responsibility to request help before an assessment. These kids are high schoolers and need to advocate for themselves!

Not all kids will get A’s and that’s okay and to be expected. Use this experience to help your child grow to be more proactive in understanding each assignment.

Assignments need to be graded so kids know if they are doing ok and when to ask for help. Part of learning feedback.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid must submit Quarter grades for his college ED application, and he’s been told they matter a lot. He has worked so hard, and many teachers haven’t been able to keep up with the grading and he’s been in the dark, and there were some unpleasant surprises last week.

And you know what? His lovely caring teachers worked with him to figure out which assignments he could revise/redo to get a few more points, and his English teacher met with him to give feedback on his paper and will grade it before the Q officially ends.

Thank you, teachers. I know you are frustrated when you can’t get things graded, too, and I appreciate what you did for my son this week.

Great. What school? Ours couldn't give less of a shit about it's students.

That's not happening at ours either. One teacher hasn't even been around for two weeks in an upper level class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So when you were growing up and there was no online grading and no retakes, were your parents mad at the teachers for lousy grades or upset with the child?

Place the blame where it belongs. If your child did not get the grades YOU think they earned, talk to your child. It is absolutely ridiculous that a parent is upset for a grade dropping after their child did not even attempt the assignment. Get after your child, not the teacher!

Grades are supposed to be earned and not given. Tell your child to work harder next quarter.

We received papers, assignments, quizzes, and tests back. Parents could call teachers with concerns. There were expectations, due dates, accountability, textbooks and so much more. My parents monitored our grades, we monitor our kids, why don't you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DCD had one missing assignment. She had a lot of competing deadlines and didn't turn in one assignment as it was a P and would have had minimal impact on the final grade. The P's are 10% of the final grade. The due date was in mid-October and was recorded in her gradebook as a -0-. Well tonight it changed from a "P" to a "TA". "TA" assignments are 90% of the grade and now her grade went from an "A" to a "B". Is that even allowed? Anything she can do?

What we have seen is that missing assignments are marked as TA and grade does lower. But if DC is back on track during the year, it will go back up to A.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For all the posters referencing lazy teachers:

Teachers do most, if not all, of their grading in the evenings and over weekends. We are provided with no time at work to get this accomplished. That’s why grading takes time to get done. Is it okay? Definitely not. Grading should be done quickly so students can see results and make progress. But this is the natural result of a modern teacher workday; most of us work 11-12 hour days and still don’t get it all accomplished.

Want real change? Help us advocate for time at work to actually DO work.

We have several teachers this year who are just giving videos and not teaching. No real curriculum so it makes it impossible to guess what is next, especially when you have to hire tutors to supplement. Grading should be done within a week. If you don't like the job, quit. The grading and teaching haven't changed in 100 years.

Many teachers are quitting because they can’t keep up with the ever-increasing demands of this job. I never understand why DCUM posters just throw out “quit” when a teacher explains a challenge of our job. Who exactly do you think will be left after we all quit? You do realize the shortage is growing, correct?

And the job hasn’t changed? I’ve been teaching for 20 years. It’s easily 3 times harder than when I started. I have larger class sizes and more classes to teach, hence more papers. I have less unstructured time at work to get these tasks done. And realtime gradebooks that students and parents can see also changed teaching; if you recall, we didn’t know our grades in realtime as children. And the emails! I get 30-40 a day now, all needing timely responses. And let’s add that student behavior now is FAR more challenging, and I have fewer resources to manage it.

Please don’t tell a teacher about that teaching hasn’t changed. That’s so far from the truth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So when you were growing up and there was no online grading and no retakes, were your parents mad at the teachers for lousy grades or upset with the child?

Place the blame where it belongs. If your child did not get the grades YOU think they earned, talk to your child. It is absolutely ridiculous that a parent is upset for a grade dropping after their child did not even attempt the assignment. Get after your child, not the teacher!

Grades are supposed to be earned and not given. Tell your child to work harder next quarter.

Hopefully you're not a teacher because there is some expectation that a student doesn't just "work harder" but that a student examines their mistakes and then works smarter when they know better. That's where you come in by doing your job.

There should be some IQ test for people to be able to work in a school. But I suppose the test is implicit and if you're there, you've failed it.

I’m not a teacher. I’m a parent that expects my children to take ownership over their schoolwork and grades. When they don’t understand something, they are expected to ask for help during lunch or request a tutor from me. My children have not gotten all A’s, and that is okay.

But this idea that a child not getting an A due to a teacher not grading fast enough is ridiculous. They should be continually learning and growing, but there are summative assignments like tests and papers that show the understanding. The growth part comes during class and might not be seen at home or through grades. If a student does a homework assignment and doesn’t understand, it is their responsibility to request help before an assessment. These kids are high schoolers and need to advocate for themselves!

Not all kids will get A’s and that’s okay and to be expected. Use this experience to help your child grow to be more proactive in understanding each assignment.

Assignments need to be graded so kids know if they are doing ok and when to ask for help. Part of learning feedback.

I have 150 students. Grading gets done at home as there is no time during the school day. This semester I switched to easy multiple choice self graded assignments on Canvas as there is no way to keep up with the workload otherwise. It sucks because I teach juniors and seniors and they should be doing higher level work with paragraph answers, etc. But MCPS makes it impossible to get everything done and my classes are too big so here we are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So when you were growing up and there was no online grading and no retakes, were your parents mad at the teachers for lousy grades or upset with the child?

Place the blame where it belongs. If your child did not get the grades YOU think they earned, talk to your child. It is absolutely ridiculous that a parent is upset for a grade dropping after their child did not even attempt the assignment. Get after your child, not the teacher!

Grades are supposed to be earned and not given. Tell your child to work harder next quarter.

We received papers, assignments, quizzes, and tests back. Parents could call teachers with concerns. There were expectations, due dates, accountability, textbooks and so much more. My parents monitored our grades, we monitor our kids, why don't you?

You are one of the worst trolls on DCUM and that’s saying a lot. NP here by the way. I hate that every time you post it’s to say “I’m doing everything right, I’m an amazing parent, why aren’t you?” It’s old, it’s tired and frankly it’s BS. Not only that you always lash out and claim the PP you are responding to is not doing something that you have no evidence about one way or another. What you think is amazing parenting is your own warped view. Stop lashing out at others and try to be a nicer person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, has your child reached out to the teacher to find out what happened and what prompted the change?

OP here. Yes, she has but she has not heard back yet. The assignment was showing in Canvas as a P until yesterday evening. Then it became a TA. This was literally the only assignment she missed for all of her subjects and there were times she stayed until 4am to get the work done bc of the group nature of some of the assignments ( partners don’t share their part until midnight then she stayed up to pull everything together). That’s why it’s so crushing for her.

Ugh. Working in teams - it never gets easy. As a teacher, I would suggest your daughter share her leadership role in ensuring the group work was completed, even as other team members (don't have to name any names necessarily) turned in their work to her at the last minute.

That is something I would remember positively if a student shared that. It shows your student's commitment to the work.

No, if your kid is part of a team, just tell them to do the entire thing.