Coach’s negative attitude

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There’s a girls coach that fits this description. He’s a giant man-baby child. Yelled at 8-10 year old girls after losing their WAGS tournament final in a razor thin close game. He’s going to be in for a rude awakening at the end of the season when half the team leaves (and numbers are already thin). My advice to you is to take your dollars to another club and let the upper management know why you left. Hurting their pocketbook is the best revenge.

Ah yes, I unfortunately know exactly who you're talking about. He's the worst and no better with his other young team. Lovely man. So motivational and uplifting. Only made three girls cry on the drive home from a blow out preseason game because he did nothing all game but scream at a few kids and afterward told the girls they basically sucked and better start trying. Complaining in writing and with numbers is my best advice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You should talk to the coaching director now since it is still early in the year. Don't make your daughter suffer all year with this. We have SO been there at a big club. 3 years, 3 coaches. All the same behavior. Finally the club hired a coach from another club. It is so refreshing to see what a real coach is like.

Also, if the club tells you they will "work" with the coach, it is BS. They don't. The same stuff continues. So you leave at the end of the year or earlier if you kid is miserable. But I will say one of my kids quit the sport because the coach was so bad. Just watch that it doesn't get that bad. I should have known...

Which club?

Kind of interested here as well to see more for the positive respect. Not enough recognition for those that do well on this site. Glad your DD was able to get a better coach after so many years with a bad one. Unfortunately many coaches are stuck in their old ways and not willing to change for the better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There’s a girls coach that fits this description. He’s a giant man-baby child. Yelled at 8-10 year old girls after losing their WAGS tournament final in a razor thin close game. He’s going to be in for a rude awakening at the end of the season when half the team leaves (and numbers are already thin). My advice to you is to take your dollars to another club and let the upper management know why you left. Hurting their pocketbook is the best revenge.

Ah yes, I unfortunately know exactly who you're talking about. He's the worst and no better with his other young team. Lovely man. So motivational and uplifting. Only made three girls cry on the drive home from a blow out preseason game because he did nothing all game but scream at a few kids and afterward told the girls they basically sucked and better start trying. Complaining in writing and with numbers is my best advice.

I am interested in knowing which club this is along with the others. My DD is doing well at rec and ready for the challenge of travel, but hearing this about coaches is scary. Our rec coaches have all been so nice. Hearing this is quite a turn off. Are a lot of travel coaches this way even at the young ages?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There’s a girls coach that fits this description. He’s a giant man-baby child. Yelled at 8-10 year old girls after losing their WAGS tournament final in a razor thin close game. He’s going to be in for a rude awakening at the end of the season when half the team leaves (and numbers are already thin). My advice to you is to take your dollars to another club and let the upper management know why you left. Hurting their pocketbook is the best revenge.

Ah yes, I unfortunately know exactly who you're talking about. He's the worst and no better with his other young team. Lovely man. So motivational and uplifting. Only made three girls cry on the drive home from a blow out preseason game because he did nothing all game but scream at a few kids and afterward told the girls they basically sucked and better start trying. Complaining in writing and with numbers is my best advice.

I am interested in knowing which club this is along with the others. My DD is doing well at rec and ready for the challenge of travel, but hearing this about coaches is scary. Our rec coaches have all been so nice. Hearing this is quite a turn off. Are a lot of travel coaches this way even at the young ages?

Yelly and toxic? Not really. Horrible and demoralizing passive aggressively? Mostly, yes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There’s a girls coach that fits this description. He’s a giant man-baby child. Yelled at 8-10 year old girls after losing their WAGS tournament final in a razor thin close game. He’s going to be in for a rude awakening at the end of the season when half the team leaves (and numbers are already thin). My advice to you is to take your dollars to another club and let the upper management know why you left. Hurting their pocketbook is the best revenge.

Ah yes, I unfortunately know exactly who you're talking about. He's the worst and no better with his other young team. Lovely man. So motivational and uplifting. Only made three girls cry on the drive home from a blow out preseason game because he did nothing all game but scream at a few kids and afterward told the girls they basically sucked and better start trying. Complaining in writing and with numbers is my best advice.

I am interested in knowing which club this is along with the others. My DD is doing well at rec and ready for the challenge of travel, but hearing this about coaches is scary. Our rec coaches have all been so nice. Hearing this is quite a turn off. Are a lot of travel coaches this way even at the young ages?

Yelly and toxic? Not really. Horrible and demoralizing passive aggressively? Mostly, yes

I wish they had a website to see coaches ratings like we used to have for teachers when I was in high school and college. Would save a lot of people a lot of trouble and maybe get some of those bad coaches fired.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There’s a girls coach that fits this description. He’s a giant man-baby child. Yelled at 8-10 year old girls after losing their WAGS tournament final in a razor thin close game. He’s going to be in for a rude awakening at the end of the season when half the team leaves (and numbers are already thin). My advice to you is to take your dollars to another club and let the upper management know why you left. Hurting their pocketbook is the best revenge.

Ah yes, I unfortunately know exactly who you're talking about. He's the worst and no better with his other young team. Lovely man. So motivational and uplifting. Only made three girls cry on the drive home from a blow out preseason game because he did nothing all game but scream at a few kids and afterward told the girls they basically sucked and better start trying. Complaining in writing and with numbers is my best advice.

I am interested in knowing which club this is along with the others. My DD is doing well at rec and ready for the challenge of travel, but hearing this about coaches is scary. Our rec coaches have all been so nice. Hearing this is quite a turn off. Are a lot of travel coaches this way even at the young ages?

Yelly and toxic? Not really. Horrible and demoralizing passive aggressively? Mostly, yes

Isn't horrible, demoralizing and passive aggressive considered toxic? I understand the "not yelly", but the other traits certainly sound toxic to me. Just saying.

[Anonymous]

We have a new goalie on our team and our coach did/said something to make her cry for 20 minutes during a tournament over the weekend. I will be surprised if this kid comes back.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is it worth mentioning how a coach’s negative attitude is impacting the entire team to anyone in the club organization? This is a group of 14 to 15 year-old girls and it is really hurting the team dynamic, performance and many girls are suggesting they may not come back even for the spring season. I’m not referring to constructive criticism or even making real time corrections in a game- that would actually be appreciated. It is truly a shame as this is a group of girls that really like to play. I’m not even sure what the organization would do with this point as it appears it is difficult to replace coaches. It’s just as if this man has never dealt with a teenage athlete. I’m assuming few have had success in a similar situation but thought it was worth a shot to put it out there to get thoughts.

Can you be more specific about what this “negative attitude” is? Like examples?

- 10 min lecture telling the team they played horribly after a loss. Pressuring the girls to say what each other did wrong instead of what they could do to improve.
- stays silent/fuming half the game and screaming the same words over and over the other half of a game. The girls end up tuning him out.
- putting girls down in front of the team for missing practice for other sports saying that’s why they’re so terrible re their performance, when he tells parents he encourages other sports so they can be well rounded
- Tells the girls how out of shape they are while bragging about how he played in high school for minutes on end instead of using that time to get a little extra conditioning practice in
- putting down team members behind their backs to other players, causing a rift between girls

Mind you I realize I am completely biased at this point because this has been going on for a while….

Good summary, this should be enough to let the club leadership know to bring the coach in for counseling session.

Also, please point out the club, the clubs do read these boards and try to address their issues internally.

I'm a travel coach and in no part of the coaching education pathway, is this taught or is considered acceptable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There’s a girls coach that fits this description. He’s a giant man-baby child. Yelled at 8-10 year old girls after losing their WAGS tournament final in a razor thin close game. He’s going to be in for a rude awakening at the end of the season when half the team leaves (and numbers are already thin). My advice to you is to take your dollars to another club and let the upper management know why you left. Hurting their pocketbook is the best revenge.

Ah yes, I unfortunately know exactly who you're talking about. He's the worst and no better with his other young team. Lovely man. So motivational and uplifting. Only made three girls cry on the drive home from a blow out preseason game because he did nothing all game but scream at a few kids and afterward told the girls they basically sucked and better start trying. Complaining in writing and with numbers is my best advice.

I am interested in knowing which club this is along with the others. My DD is doing well at rec and ready for the challenge of travel, but hearing this about coaches is scary. Our rec coaches have all been so nice. Hearing this is quite a turn off. Are a lot of travel coaches this way even at the young ages?

I’ll give you a clue. The team begins with the letter V. If you know you know.

[mdlurker]

>I wish they had a website to see coaches ratings like we used to have for teachers when I was in high school and college.

I like this idea. It's a problem that coaches are in effect unaccountable and most don't take feedback without getting defensive, and even possibly retaliating against your kid.

[Anonymous]

Isn’t there a coach like this at every club? Why do they coach?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Isn’t there a coach like this at every club? Why do they coach?

These guys probably don't make a lot of money in their day jobs, so they need the extra income. They probably have some built up resentment against "rich kids" that do travel.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn’t there a coach like this at every club? Why do they coach?

These guys probably don't make a lot of money in their day jobs, so they need the extra income. They probably have some built up resentment against "rich kids" that do travel.

That's why rec coaches tend to be nicer. They are actually there because they want to be. Travel coaches are not. Not all travel coaches are angry miserable grumpy pants, but it seems like a lot of them are. Yelling at little kids for losing a close game seems a bit dysfunctional. Probably needs therapy (his dad probably didn't hug him as child and now he's a giant man-baby).

And before people jump on me and say "you get what you paid for", we had a former MLS player coaching our child's rec team. It was great! Sadly his kid left for travel eventually and we lost him. Oh well, at least my kids are happy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn’t there a coach like this at every club? Why do they coach?

These guys probably don't make a lot of money in their day jobs, so they need the extra income. They probably have some built up resentment against "rich kids" that do travel.

My kid hasn’t had a single coach who hasn’t played travel soccer themselves! Young guys who have no idea how to deal with teenage female student athletes.

[Anonymous]

CW at Union is easily one of the most negative coaches out there. Completely overrated as a developer of young people, particularly girls. But, everyone goes along with his antics because he’s the college coach whisperer. Parents are pathetic.