Difference between 9v9 and 11v11

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Do clubs normally have 1-3 teams at U13? I know Arlington, McLean, and those larger clubs tend to have a lot of kids.


The number of teams for all clubs typically decreases as they transition to 11v11 at u13. The Rosters expand from about 10 kids per team to 16+ kids per team. 3x U12 teams would turn into 2x U13 teams.
Anonymous
Most clubs have two U13 teams. Not enough kids for a third and likely no coach for a third.
Anonymous
SYC has four U13 teams. The third and fourth teams are like rec.


Anonymous wrote:Most clubs have two U13 teams. Not enough kids for a third and likely no coach for a third.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Do clubs normally have 1-3 teams at U13? I know Arlington, McLean, and those larger clubs tend to have a lot of kids.


Typically three 9v9 teams will feed into two 11v11. If a club only has two 9v9 teams, it gets a little difficult to fill a 2nd 11v11 team the following year but that's also usually why if a club only has two 9v9 teams the rosters will be a little bit bigger unfortunately.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My kid will be going into 11v11 next fall. Is there any difference besides team size and field size? He's on the 2nd tier team for the club this year.


As previous posters have said, fitness and spacing are both massively different. But, I would offer that there are some other differences that are often overlooked by parents and those things are:

1. Passing accuracy: becomes much more important full field because lost passes in space can lead to goals much easier because closing/tracking the player down/tackling is harder as there is more ground to cover.

2. Off the ball movement: This is where kids at this age are woefully inefficient. Watch almost any u13 game and most kids just watch the ball and aren't thinking about what happens next. Because of this, very few people are in good positions and the game because a 9v9 game on a full field. Because the field had been so much smaller, the premium on off the ball movement was arguably less because the players could recover and transition much faster. Now, understanding shape and your role in that shape matters much more on both sides of the ball. Particularly, getting back on defense.

3. Managing difficult passes/first touch: Much more passes and balls will be bouncing, in the air, under pressure and coming at a faster pace. Again, at u13 this is where kids struggle. They are more used to receiving balls on the ground and less out of the air. But the players that can manage the difficult passes the best, meaning bringing it under control in one or two touches, will shine because they will appear to be playing faster than the others. I can't tell you how many games I've watched at this age that look like pinball because the kids can't trap balls that aren't on the ground.

4. Too many touches on the ball becomes more obvious (bad): When you have so much field to cover to score, when you see players take 5-7 touches on the ball and go no where or pass it to someone next to them or 5 yards after those touches, it looks ridiculous. Too many kids think that doing fancy moves makes them stand out and the reality it doesn't. In most cases it looks like the player doesn't know what they are doing and lacks soccer IQ especially when doing these moves in their own third. Dribbling is an important skill. But dribbling when it is time to dribble and knowing when it is time and when it isn't, is a more important skill.

5. Chipping is now a big part of the necessary skill set: If your kid can't chip the ball he/she will have less optionality in their game. Chipping is big part of playing on a bigger field. If your kid can chip with both feet, they are at an advantage.
Anonymous
Not much. By the time your kid is old enough to transition they are ready. My daughters 9v9 team used to be able to kick the ball from one goal to another. In fact, on 5 different occasions their goalie scored - from their goal kick. They need to transition to 11v11 a year earlier.
Anonymous
Unfortunately many 9v9 matches in this area are played on 7v7 fields, and by U12 it becomes pretty dangerous and unhelpful for development for reasons like PP just cited with the goalkeeper scoring and fluky reasons as to why teams win versus exhibiting abilities and traits that actually will carry over into 11v11. U13 year is when some of these GA/ECNL kids will be found out as their skills and game knowledge won't carry over.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Those football size fields at High Schools are the worst. Way too big for the U13s.


Agreed.


Disagree. My 5’10” 12 year old has FINALLY found her stride. It’s an absolute joy to watch. She outgrew the 9v9 field last year and so did her team.

Also, her team’s passing, building from the back, and play development is so much better. They were all too cramped on the 9v9. How many times did the keepers just punt it to each other……
Anonymous
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:SYC has four U13 teams. The third and fourth teams are like rec.


Anonymous wrote:Most clubs have two U13 teams. Not enough kids for a third and likely no coach for a third.


The third and fourth teams are just money grabs.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:SYC has four U13 teams. The third and fourth teams are like rec.


Anonymous wrote:Most clubs have two U13 teams. Not enough kids for a third and likely no coach for a third.


The third and fourth teams are just money grabs.


That's every club around. After the second team, they're typically ALL money grabs. SYC I believe has 3 U13 girls teams, Loudoun and Arlington are the mega clubs for travel teams.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Not much. By the time your kid is old enough to transition they are ready. My daughters 9v9 team used to be able to kick the ball from one goal to another. In fact, on 5 different occasions their goalie scored - from their goal kick. They need to transition to 11v11 a year earlier.


Agreed. The kids adjust to the full-sized fields within one game. They've outgrown the 9v9 fields by U-12. That wasn't a fun year to watch.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Not much. By the time your kid is old enough to transition they are ready. My daughters 9v9 team used to be able to kick the ball from one goal to another. In fact, on 5 different occasions their goalie scored - from their goal kick. They need to transition to 11v11 a year earlier.


Same for my kids team. The field is tiny for them that last 9v9 year. It's ridiculous. My daughter can throw the ball 90% down the field.
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