IMX Question - God help me

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:IMX points are per year, not year bracket. In other words a swimmer with 2000 IMX points at age 11 may have 1700 immediately upon turning 12. Any given time in a stroke will get you less points as a 12 than as an 11 for the same time. So he might already have it or may not.

+1, this is the correct response. If
your kid qualified last year as an 11 year old, he can still use all of those times from last year, but the point value is different as a 12 year old. I’ll give an example, an 11 year old boy who swam the 500 free in 6:00 got 576 points for that swim but as a 12 year old that time only gets you 437 points. So you would have to enter each of your kids’ times from last year and calculate how many points they get for those as a now 12 year old.

Yes, but unless things have changed since we used to do this meet, swimming all of the IMX events for one’s age group in a single season achieves the minimum required point total for the age group (even if that total varies based on age in the age group). A few years ago, as others have said, you just needed to swim all of the events in the same course in one season. So if you did that in 2023-2024 and you’re still in the same age group, you should already be qualified for this season’s meet (if the rules haven’t changed). You’re probably just going in with a lower entry score.

You don’t qualify for IMX just by swimming the events for your age group, you have to have a total of 1800 power points and the points are calculated by single age not by age group. So an 11 year old who just squeaked into the meet in 2024 with 1850 points will not have enough points using those times to swim at the meet in 2025 when they are 12.

Interesting. A few years ago, it was like this. As long as you had a time in each of the IMX events for an age group (achieved on same course within current OR all in prior season), you’d have enough points to swim the meet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:IMX points are per year, not year bracket. In other words a swimmer with 2000 IMX points at age 11 may have 1700 immediately upon turning 12. Any given time in a stroke will get you less points as a 12 than as an 11 for the same time. So he might already have it or may not.

+1, this is the correct response. If
your kid qualified last year as an 11 year old, he can still use all of those times from last year, but the point value is different as a 12 year old. I’ll give an example, an 11 year old boy who swam the 500 free in 6:00 got 576 points for that swim but as a 12 year old that time only gets you 437 points. So you would have to enter each of your kids’ times from last year and calculate how many points they get for those as a now 12 year old.

Yes, but unless things have changed since we used to do this meet, swimming all of the IMX events for one’s age group in a single season achieves the minimum required point total for the age group (even if that total varies based on age in the age group). A few years ago, as others have said, you just needed to swim all of the events in the same course in one season. So if you did that in 2023-2024 and you’re still in the same age group, you should already be qualified for this season’s meet (if the rules haven’t changed). You’re probably just going in with a lower entry score.

You don’t qualify for IMX just by swimming the events for your age group, you have to have a total of 1800 power points and the points are calculated by single age not by age group. So an 11 year old who just squeaked into the meet in 2024 with 1850 points will not have enough points using those times to swim at the meet in 2025 when they are 12.

Interesting. A few years ago, it was like this. As long as you had a time in each of the IMX events for an age group (achieved on same course within current OR all in prior season), you’d have enough points to swim the meet.

I have not had a kid in IMX since before Covid, but this was definitely not true in that era.

It was entirely possible to swim every event and not achieve 1800 points, and those kids did not qualify for the meet.

[Anonymous]

Let's make sure we're talking about the same meet - IMX Games, usually held in late January is what people are talking about for the 1800 points. There are many many swimmers who completed all IMX events but were far short of the 1800 required (for the NE games, I assume other areas have a similar event) - usually between B and BB, closer to BB across all events to get the ~350/event required. Interestingly enough, 13+ may have it easier as they have an additional event (200IM + 400IM vs just 100 or 200IM) to get to the 1800 required

[Anonymous]

So this is LAST year's qualifying information for the meet. Can anyone break this down?

 The qualifying period for this event is September 1, 2022 through the entry deadline.
 All times MUST be achieved in one season and in one course. Times from the 2022-23 season shall not
be combined with times from the 2023-24 season.
 Entry Deadline: All entries must be received no later than Tuesday, January 16, 2024 by 11:59 p.m. Eastern
Standard Time.
 E-Mail Entry Deadline: Athletes achieving the qualifying score for the first time from Saturday, January
20, through Sunday, January 21, 2024 may be sent by e-mail. These entries must be received no later
than 11:59 p.m. Eastern Standard Time on Monday, January 22, 2024, and cannot be used to improve
the seed time of a prior entry.
 All athletes that are 9-14 years on the first day of the meet are eligible for the meet if they have achieved the
minimum qualifying score in any age during the qualifying period.
 This meet will follow IMX Challenge program guidelines.
 The qualifying standard will be a minimum IMX Challenge score of 1,800 points for all ages and genders.
Qualifying standards are the same for SCY and LCM.
 Details of any changes to normal meet operations protocol will be announced at the coaches meeting.
 All events will be pre-seeded. Known scratches should be sent to the Meet Director prior to January 22nd.
 Swimmers’ and Coaches’ Responsibility—It shall be the swimmers and coaches responsibility to acquaint
themselves with all of the information contained in this meet information book and any details discussed at the
coaches meeting.
 All swimmers MUST provide their own timer and counter for the 500 Free on Friday and a timer for
the 13-14 400 IM on Sunday
 2 courses will be used for the entire meet
 Session start times MAY be adjusted after all entries come in.
 At the conclusion of each 13-14 Boys event, half of the remaining 13-14 Girls heats will be moved to the boys
course in each event to help with timelines if needed.
 It may be necessary for swimmers in later heats of an event in the 11-12 and 9-10 age groups to swim
on the opposite gender’s course in order to balance timelines. Coaches will be informed and will be
given the opportunity to concur in the event this becomes necessary
Age of the athlete will be the first day of the competition.
Any swimmer that is 9-14 year-old is eligible for the meet who has achieved the minimum qualifying
score in any age during the qualifying period. That is, a swimmer who has achieved a minimum
qualifying score as a 10-year-old and ages up to 11 prior to the start of the meet will be eligible to enter
the meet and compete as an 11-year-old. A 12-year-old who has achieved the minimum qualifying
score but ages up to 13 prior to the start of the meet will be eligible to enter the meet and compete as a
13-year-old (even if he/she has not swum all the required events as a 13 yr old)

[Anonymous]

If at any point over the previous year and a half leading up to the meet you had an IMX score of 1800 points or more you are eligible for the meet even if you don’t currently have a score of 1800 in SCY for your current age.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If at any point over the previous year and a half leading up to the meet you had an IMX score of 1800 points or more you are eligible for the meet even if you don’t currently have a score of 1800 in SCY for your current age.

This may be correct, but I believe your IMX score is adjusted to your age, so someone might have had 1800+ at one age might not have it at one year older.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If at any point over the previous year and a half leading up to the meet you had an IMX score of 1800 points or more you are eligible for the meet even if you don’t currently have a score of 1800 in SCY for your current age.

This may be correct, but I believe your IMX score is adjusted to your age, so someone might have had 1800+ at one age might not have it at one year older.

It should be adjusted (or it sort of becomes a joke) but since you cannot adjust a 12 to 13 year old, right? They might not adjust.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If at any point over the previous year and a half leading up to the meet you had an IMX score of 1800 points or more you are eligible for the meet even if you don’t currently have a score of 1800 in SCY for your current age.

This may be correct, but I believe your IMX score is adjusted to your age, so someone might have had 1800+ at one age might not have it at one year older.

It should be adjusted (or it sort of becomes a joke) but since you cannot adjust a 12 to 13 year old, right? They might not adjust.

Even if they no longer have an imx score of 1800, if they did at any point in the qualifying period they are qualifed to compete in the meet at the older age.