IMX Question - God help me

[Anonymous]

I don't want to poke the IMX crazy on the board (mostly because I think IMX is silly but a fun thing for kids to go for) but my kid qualified and swam the IMX meet last year. All of his qualify times were in the 2023-2024 season (12). Does this mean that he is already qualified for the one in this year since they look at two seasons? That is the way that I am reading it. I find that kind of ridiculous because he will be able to swim without really qualifying.

[Anonymous]

IMX points are per year, not year bracket. In other words a swimmer with 2000 IMX points at age 11 may have 1700 immediately upon turning 12. Any given time in a stroke will get you less points as a 12 than as an 11 for the same time. So he might already have it or may not.

[Anonymous]

not sure if they qualify for this season, but by swimming last season, they are guaranteed a Division 1 scholarship in a few years

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I don't want to poke the IMX crazy on the board (mostly because I think IMX is silly but a fun thing for kids to go for) but my kid qualified and swam the IMX meet last year. All of his qualify times were in the 2023-2024 season (12). Does this mean that he is already qualified for the one in this year since they look at two seasons? That is the way that I am reading it. I find that kind of ridiculous because he will be able to swim without really qualifying.

I think he did qualify under the rules, but check with your coach.

[Anonymous]

If a kid at the IMX meet gets the 1800 points, they're pre-qualified for the next year, just because of how long the qualifying period is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If a kid at the IMX meet gets the 1800 points, they're pre-qualified for the next year, just because of how long the qualifying period is.

Does it have to be at the meet?

My understanding is that you can qualify the season prior (which means you could swim that season and the next on the same events).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If a kid at the IMX meet gets the 1800 points, they're pre-qualified for the next year, just because of how long the qualifying period is.

Does it have to be at the meet?

My understanding is that you can qualify the season prior (which means you could swim that season and the next on the same events).

I'm the PP who thinks he did qualify, and this is exactly why. It shouldn't make a difference whether it's at the meet or over the course of the season (as long as everything is swum in the same season).

My kid's coach explained this to us last year, but it's so confusing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:IMX points are per year, not year bracket. In other words a swimmer with 2000 IMX points at age 11 may have 1700 immediately upon turning 12. Any given time in a stroke will get you less points as a 12 than as an 11 for the same time. So he might already have it or may not.

+1, this is the correct response. If
your kid qualified last year as an 11 year old, he can still use all of those times from last year, but the point value is different as a 12 year old. I’ll give an example, an 11 year old boy who swam the 500 free in 6:00 got 576 points for that swim but as a 12 year old that time only gets you 437 points. So you would have to enter each of your kids’ times from last year and calculate how many points they get for those as a now 12 year old.

[Anonymous]

All events must be swum and scored in the same course and at the same age. You can't take a time from 11 with four times from 12 and score the 11-yo time for 12, not for the IMX meet. You can't mix SCY and LCM either. But it can be across seasons at the same age (like an early spring birthday could combine the last SCY meet times with fall times to qualify in January).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:IMX points are per year, not year bracket. In other words a swimmer with 2000 IMX points at age 11 may have 1700 immediately upon turning 12. Any given time in a stroke will get you less points as a 12 than as an 11 for the same time. So he might already have it or may not.

+1, this is the correct response. If
your kid qualified last year as an 11 year old, he can still use all of those times from last year, but the point value is different as a 12 year old. I’ll give an example, an 11 year old boy who swam the 500 free in 6:00 got 576 points for that swim but as a 12 year old that time only gets you 437 points. So you would have to enter each of your kids’ times from last year and calculate how many points they get for those as a now 12 year old.

Yes, but unless things have changed since we used to do this meet, swimming all of the IMX events for one’s age group in a single season achieves the minimum required point total for the age group (even if that total varies based on age in the age group). A few years ago, as others have said, you just needed to swim all of the events in the same course in one season. So if you did that in 2023-2024 and you’re still in the same age group, you should already be qualified for this season’s meet (if the rules haven’t changed). You’re probably just going in with a lower entry score.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:IMX points are per year, not year bracket. In other words a swimmer with 2000 IMX points at age 11 may have 1700 immediately upon turning 12. Any given time in a stroke will get you less points as a 12 than as an 11 for the same time. So he might already have it or may not.

+1, this is the correct response. If
your kid qualified last year as an 11 year old, he can still use all of those times from last year, but the point value is different as a 12 year old. I’ll give an example, an 11 year old boy who swam the 500 free in 6:00 got 576 points for that swim but as a 12 year old that time only gets you 437 points. So you would have to enter each of your kids’ times from last year and calculate how many points they get for those as a now 12 year old.

Yes, but unless things have changed since we used to do this meet, swimming all of the IMX events for one’s age group in a single season achieves the minimum required point total for the age group (even if that total varies based on age in the age group). A few years ago, as others have said, you just needed to swim all of the events in the same course in one season. So if you did that in 2023-2024 and you’re still in the same age group, you should already be qualified for this season’s meet (if the rules haven’t changed). You’re probably just going in with a lower entry score.

You don’t qualify for IMX just by swimming the events for your age group, you have to have a total of 1800 power points and the points are calculated by single age not by age group. So an 11 year old who just squeaked into the meet in 2024 with 1850 points will not have enough points using those times to swim at the meet in 2025 when they are 12.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All events must be swum and scored in the same course and at the same age. You can't take a time from 11 with four times from 12 and score the 11-yo time for 12, not for the IMX meet. You can't mix SCY and LCM either. But it can be across seasons at the same age (like an early spring birthday could combine the last SCY meet times with fall times to qualify in January).

It has to be in one season. You cants do across seasons. It says that in the meet program.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:IMX points are per year, not year bracket. In other words a swimmer with 2000 IMX points at age 11 may have 1700 immediately upon turning 12. Any given time in a stroke will get you less points as a 12 than as an 11 for the same time. So he might already have it or may not.

+1, this is the correct response. If
your kid qualified last year as an 11 year old, he can still use all of those times from last year, but the point value is different as a 12 year old. I’ll give an example, an 11 year old boy who swam the 500 free in 6:00 got 576 points for that swim but as a 12 year old that time only gets you 437 points. So you would have to enter each of your kids’ times from last year and calculate how many points they get for those as a now 12 year old.

But this doesn’t work for a qualifying 12 year old that is now 13. The events are completely different. You qualify on your 12 year events but with the new age for points as 13?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:IMX points are per year, not year bracket. In other words a swimmer with 2000 IMX points at age 11 may have 1700 immediately upon turning 12. Any given time in a stroke will get you less points as a 12 than as an 11 for the same time. So he might already have it or may not.

+1, this is the correct response. If
your kid qualified last year as an 11 year old, he can still use all of those times from last year, but the point value is different as a 12 year old. I’ll give an example, an 11 year old boy who swam the 500 free in 6:00 got 576 points for that swim but as a 12 year old that time only gets you 437 points. So you would have to enter each of your kids’ times from last year and calculate how many points they get for those as a now 12 year old.

But this doesn’t work for a qualifying 12 year old that is now 13. The events are completely different. You qualify on your 12 year events but with the new age for points as 13?

The way I understand it from how our club handles it is that a 13 year old can qualify using a 12 year old score with 12 year old events only if they age up to 13 sometime between the beginning of this season and the IMX meet. There are multiple kids on our team that are 12 and will turn 13 in late November-mid January, so they will swim the 12 year old IMX events this season before they turn 13 to get their points which they can use to swim as a 13 year old in the meet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:IMX points are per year, not year bracket. In other words a swimmer with 2000 IMX points at age 11 may have 1700 immediately upon turning 12. Any given time in a stroke will get you less points as a 12 than as an 11 for the same time. So he might already have it or may not.

+1, this is the correct response. If
your kid qualified last year as an 11 year old, he can still use all of those times from last year, but the point value is different as a 12 year old. I’ll give an example, an 11 year old boy who swam the 500 free in 6:00 got 576 points for that swim but as a 12 year old that time only gets you 437 points. So you would have to enter each of your kids’ times from last year and calculate how many points they get for those as a now 12 year old.

But this doesn’t work for a qualifying 12 year old that is now 13. The events are completely different. You qualify on your 12 year events but with the new age for points as 13?

From the meet announcement:

Any swimmer that is 9-14 year-old is eligible for the meet who has achieved the minimum qualifying score in any age during the qualifying period. That is, a swimmer who has achieved a minimum qualifying score as a 10-year-old and ages up to 11 prior to the start of the meet will be eligible to enter the meet and compete as an 11-year-old. A 12-year-old who has achieved the minimum qualifying score but ages up to 13 prior to the start of the meet will be eligible to enter the meet and compete as a 13-year-old (even if he/she has not swum all the required events as a 13 yr old).