Where do MoCo council members live?

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know here he resides, but Katz represents Rockville, an area that will be largely exempt, yet he will still get a vote.

Must be nice!

How is someone from Rockville even allowed to vote on how the county is run when they incorporate themselves? It makes absolutely zero sense is utter hypocrisy. He can go vote to upzone silver spring yet his precious little historic district in Rockville would be exempt from building triplexes?

Because

1. the City of Rockville is in Montgomery County
2. the voters of Montgomery County elected him to the Montgomery County Council

Doesn’t explain how Rockville voters can impose policies on the county they’re shielded from. Ridiculous hypocrisy. Historic Rockville needs to be upzoned with triplexes first before silver spring.

Good news! Rockville voters can't! The zoning changes will require a majority on the Montgomery County Council, which has 11 members.

Also, while all of the City of Rockville historic districts are (by definition) in the City of Rockville, there is a lot of City of Rockville that is not in a historic district. I hope this explanation helps.

And finally, the zoning changes will also apply to county-designated historic districts.

https://www.rockvillemd.gov/2177/Historic-Districts

This is good info, I think that the people in Rockville and Takoma Park think that they are shielded from that, maybe this fact will get them active!

Rockville, Takoma Park, this affects you, too!

Sign the petition!

https://www.change.org/p/protect-single-family-zoning-in-montgomery-county

No, the City of Rockville has its own zoning authority.

So who is right, you or 13:05?

Both posts were made by me.

The zoning changes will apply to county-designated historic districts, which the county has zoning authority over. The zoning changes will not apply to the City of Rockville, because the City of Rockville has its own zoning authority. The City of Takoma Park does not have its own zoning authority.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know here he resides, but Katz represents Rockville, an area that will be largely exempt, yet he will still get a vote.

Must be nice!

How is someone from Rockville even allowed to vote on how the county is run when they incorporate themselves? It makes absolutely zero sense is utter hypocrisy. He can go vote to upzone silver spring yet his precious little historic district in Rockville would be exempt from building triplexes?

Because

1. the City of Rockville is in Montgomery County
2. the voters of Montgomery County elected him to the Montgomery County Council

Doesn’t explain how Rockville voters can impose policies on the county they’re shielded from. Ridiculous hypocrisy. Historic Rockville needs to be upzoned with triplexes first before silver spring.

There is no hypocrisy here. You know how representatives at both the state and federal level get to vote on all types of things that don't have an effect on the little geography where their home resides.

What you just describe is hypocrisy, whether it happens at the local, state, or national level is superfluous.

how do you figure?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know here he resides, but Katz represents Rockville, an area that will be largely exempt, yet he will still get a vote.

Must be nice!

How is someone from Rockville even allowed to vote on how the county is run when they incorporate themselves? It makes absolutely zero sense is utter hypocrisy. He can go vote to upzone silver spring yet his precious little historic district in Rockville would be exempt from building triplexes?

Because

1. the City of Rockville is in Montgomery County
2. the voters of Montgomery County elected him to the Montgomery County Council

Doesn’t explain how Rockville voters can impose policies on the county they’re shielded from. Ridiculous hypocrisy. Historic Rockville needs to be upzoned with triplexes first before silver spring.

Good news! Rockville voters can't! The zoning changes will require a majority on the Montgomery County Council, which has 11 members.

Also, while all of the City of Rockville historic districts are (by definition) in the City of Rockville, there is a lot of City of Rockville that is not in a historic district. I hope this explanation helps.

And finally, the zoning changes will also apply to county-designated historic districts.

https://www.rockvillemd.gov/2177/Historic-Districts

This is good info, I think that the people in Rockville and Takoma Park think that they are shielded from that, maybe this fact will get them active!

Rockville, Takoma Park, this affects you, too!

Sign the petition!

https://www.change.org/p/protect-single-family-zoning-in-montgomery-county

No, the City of Rockville has its own zoning authority.

So who is right, you or 13:05?

Both posts were made by me.

The zoning changes will apply to county-designated historic districts, which the county has zoning authority over. The zoning changes will not apply to the City of Rockville, because the City of Rockville has its own zoning authority. The City of Takoma Park does not have its own zoning authority.

Hypocrisy. Zone up all of Rockville. No exemptions. Their voters can't vote for progressive policies for everyone else but exempt themselves because they know it is trash.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know here he resides, but Katz represents Rockville, an area that will be largely exempt, yet he will still get a vote.

Must be nice!

How is someone from Rockville even allowed to vote on how the county is run when they incorporate themselves? It makes absolutely zero sense is utter hypocrisy. He can go vote to upzone silver spring yet his precious little historic district in Rockville would be exempt from building triplexes?

Because

1. the City of Rockville is in Montgomery County
2. the voters of Montgomery County elected him to the Montgomery County Council

Doesn’t explain how Rockville voters can impose policies on the county they’re shielded from. Ridiculous hypocrisy. Historic Rockville needs to be upzoned with triplexes first before silver spring.

There is no hypocrisy here. You know how representatives at both the state and federal level get to vote on all types of things that don't have an effect on the little geography where their home resides.

What you just describe is hypocrisy, whether it happens at the local, state, or national level is superfluous.

So your assertion is that no elected representative should have a vote unless their immediate home is affected? We should disband the House and Senate?

[Anonymous]

Some of them live in areas where public sewer is banned. They won't be impacted either as long their neighborhood is limited to well and septic. Septic systems make it difficult and uneconomical to significantly increase density especially if the soil is bad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know here he resides, but Katz represents Rockville, an area that will be largely exempt, yet he will still get a vote.

Must be nice!

How is someone from Rockville even allowed to vote on how the county is run when they incorporate themselves? It makes absolutely zero sense is utter hypocrisy. He can go vote to upzone silver spring yet his precious little historic district in Rockville would be exempt from building triplexes?

Because

1. the City of Rockville is in Montgomery County
2. the voters of Montgomery County elected him to the Montgomery County Council

Doesn’t explain how Rockville voters can impose policies on the county they’re shielded from. Ridiculous hypocrisy. Historic Rockville needs to be upzoned with triplexes first before silver spring.

Good news! Rockville voters can't! The zoning changes will require a majority on the Montgomery County Council, which has 11 members.

Also, while all of the City of Rockville historic districts are (by definition) in the City of Rockville, there is a lot of City of Rockville that is not in a historic district. I hope this explanation helps.

And finally, the zoning changes will also apply to county-designated historic districts.

https://www.rockvillemd.gov/2177/Historic-Districts

This is good info, I think that the people in Rockville and Takoma Park think that they are shielded from that, maybe this fact will get them active!

Rockville, Takoma Park, this affects you, too!

Sign the petition!

https://www.change.org/p/protect-single-family-zoning-in-montgomery-county

No, the City of Rockville has its own zoning authority.

So who is right, you or 13:05?

Both posts were made by me.

The zoning changes will apply to county-designated historic districts, which the county has zoning authority over. The zoning changes will not apply to the City of Rockville, because the City of Rockville has its own zoning authority. The City of Takoma Park does not have its own zoning authority.

Hypocrisy. Zone up all of Rockville. No exemptions. Their voters can't vote for progressive policies for everyone else but exempt themselves because they know it is trash.

Here's who you address this to: the Rockville City Council. They're the ones who have the legal authority to do this. The Montgomery County Council does not have the legal authority to do this.

[Anonymous]

I do not think any of you, even with multiple threads, understand what it is at hand here. There will be NO untouchable area once this rolls out in force, to include Tacoma Park. You should have vote differently, there is no going back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some of them live in areas where public sewer is banned. They won't be impacted either as long their neighborhood is limited to well and septic. Septic systems make it difficult and uneconomical to significantly increase density especially if the soil is bad.

What's your argument here? Are you saying that multi-unit housing should be allowed on septic, even though it doesn't work? Or are you saying that multi-unit housing should not be allowed on public sewer, on grounds that it isn't allowed on septic because it doesn't work on septic? Or maybe you're in favor of extending public sewer to areas that are on septic, so that multi-unit housing can be allowed in those areas?

Generally, in my opinion, it's a good idea to avoid taking actions that will increase the numbers of failing septic systems.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I do not think any of you, even with multiple threads, understand what it is at hand here. There will be NO untouchable area once this rolls out in force, to include Tacoma Park. You should have vote differently, there is no going back.

Takoma. With a k. In Maryland. Where are you posting from?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some of them live in areas where public sewer is banned. They won't be impacted either as long their neighborhood is limited to well and septic. Septic systems make it difficult and uneconomical to significantly increase density especially if the soil is bad.

And this, like everything else, will find a way to adapt to the new normal of our oligarchs. The panic on this topic is beyond.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know here he resides, but Katz represents Rockville, an area that will be largely exempt, yet he will still get a vote.

Must be nice!

How is someone from Rockville even allowed to vote on how the county is run when they incorporate themselves? It makes absolutely zero sense is utter hypocrisy. He can go vote to upzone silver spring yet his precious little historic district in Rockville would be exempt from building triplexes?

Because

1. the City of Rockville is in Montgomery County
2. the voters of Montgomery County elected him to the Montgomery County Council

Doesn’t explain how Rockville voters can impose policies on the county they’re shielded from. Ridiculous hypocrisy. Historic Rockville needs to be upzoned with triplexes first before silver spring.

There is no hypocrisy here. You know how representatives at both the state and federal level get to vote on all types of things that don't have an effect on the little geography where their home resides.

What you just describe is hypocrisy, whether it happens at the local, state, or national level is superfluous.

So your assertion is that no elected representative should have a vote unless their immediate home is affected? We should disband the House and Senate?

DP. I did know somebody once who lived in North Dakota and believed that people who don't live in North Dakota shouldn't get to have any say over federal land in North Dakota. They would like the "hypocrisy!" PP's posts, I think.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of them live in areas where public sewer is banned. They won't be impacted either as long their neighborhood is limited to well and septic. Septic systems make it difficult and uneconomical to significantly increase density especially if the soil is bad.

And this, like everything else, will find a way to adapt to the new normal of our oligarchs. The panic on this topic is beyond.

I have no idea what you're saying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of them live in areas where public sewer is banned. They won't be impacted either as long their neighborhood is limited to well and septic. Septic systems make it difficult and uneconomical to significantly increase density especially if the soil is bad.

What's your argument here? Are you saying that multi-unit housing should be allowed on septic, even though it doesn't work? Or are you saying that multi-unit housing should not be allowed on public sewer, on grounds that it isn't allowed on septic because it doesn't work on septic? Or maybe you're in favor of extending public sewer to areas that are on septic, so that multi-unit housing can be allowed in those areas?

Generally, in my opinion, it's a good idea to avoid taking actions that will increase the numbers of failing septic systems.

They are hypocritical, multifamily housing for every neighborhood, but their own. One of these people in particular is around 500 feet away from public sewer and they could change the sewer map for their own neighborhood if they truly want to promote affordable housing. However, he won't do this because it will impact their own neighborhood. Density for thee, but not for me if the motto of this hypocritical progressive board. Very similar to Obama preaching about upzoning middle class suburban neighborhoods while he owns a posh beach house in the Hamptons.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of them live in areas where public sewer is banned. They won't be impacted either as long their neighborhood is limited to well and septic. Septic systems make it difficult and uneconomical to significantly increase density especially if the soil is bad.

What's your argument here? Are you saying that multi-unit housing should be allowed on septic, even though it doesn't work? Or are you saying that multi-unit housing should not be allowed on public sewer, on grounds that it isn't allowed on septic because it doesn't work on septic? Or maybe you're in favor of extending public sewer to areas that are on septic, so that multi-unit housing can be allowed in those areas?

Generally, in my opinion, it's a good idea to avoid taking actions that will increase the numbers of failing septic systems.

They are hypocritical, multifamily housing for every neighborhood, but their own. One of these people in particular is around 500 feet away from public sewer and they could change the sewer map for their own neighborhood if they truly want to promote affordable housing. However, he won't do this because it will impact their own neighborhood. Density for thee, but not for me if the motto of this hypocritical progressive board. Very similar to Obama preaching about upzoning middle class suburban neighborhoods while he owns a posh beach house in the Hamptons.

Again, I'm wondering how far your understanding of "hypocrisy" extends. You do know that our ENTIRE legislative and executive branch is built on people making decisions about things that don't have an immediate impact on their own life, right?

Even at the hyper local level, city councilmembers vote on whether to proceed on individual development projects. Should they be prohibited from doing that if the project is not within 100 feet of their own home? not in the school cluster their children attend? Where is the line here?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I do not think any of you, even with multiple threads, understand what it is at hand here. There will be NO untouchable area once this rolls out in force, to include Tacoma Park. You should have vote differently, there is no going back.

Love how the developers are reveling in their having bought the County Council for profit and now are teasing SFH-living moderate dems into reconsidering in the hopes they vote for Hogan, flip the senate and keep their tax breaks.