90th percentile

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If the FCPS average SAT score is 1181, the Virginia average is 1113, and the national average is 1028, who are all of the students with tippy-top scores?
The average SAT score at TJ is 1516, which is understandable since it’s a magnet school, but McLean is 1292 and Lewis is 1005. If you look at SAT scores provided by colleges, you would think that avg scores would be much higher.

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But if you actually know the kids, you wouldn't....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the FCPS average SAT score is 1181, the Virginia average is 1113, and the national average is 1028, who are all of the students with tippy-top scores?
The average SAT score at TJ is 1516, which is understandable since it’s a magnet school, but McLean is 1292 and Lewis is 1005. If you look at SAT scores provided by colleges, you would think that avg scores would be much higher.

[b]

But if you actually know the kids, you wouldn't....

Is this TJ before or after the changes?

[Anonymous]

It is a lot of easier to get all As than top 10% or top 1% in SAT/ ACTs. Approx 40% of the 3.7million people applying have all As but only 1% have over 1500. That still is 37K students for top ranked schools to pick from.

1350 is a decent score but you are not in the top 1% of the population. Grading system in schools is screwed up so you are really measure students caliber based on grades.

[Anonymous]

correcting above

So you can't really measure students' caliber based on grades only.

There are plenty of schools where 1350 and 4.0 gpa will be good enough to even get you some scholarship money.

[Anonymous]

Class of 2023, so prior to the digital test.

[Anonymous]

Here is the thing. Most kids and parents lie about scores. Many people do not submit scores to college so scores need to be taken in context with To. 1350 is a great score. Relax.

[Anonymous]

But how many kids who ultimately get in the 1500s start out around 1350 and then study and tutor up to the 1500s? I'll put my own kids in that bucket. And I know that's the way it is but man the rat race we've created that rewards the kids who can afford those privileges...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm confused... you're asking why your kid didn't get an A on the SAT?

No--- I'm asking why 1350plus is not "smart enough" for most top schools

DP.

It IS smart enough for most top schools.

The problem is that other applicants are "smarter", if you believe that standardized test scores reflect "smartness".

Everything else being equal, colleges don't want "smart enough", they want "smartest available", right?

This! Like someone else said, this is why they can have lower academic standards for student athletes. Because they CAN do it. They ARE smart enough. But 10% are smarter (or better test takers) so the top colleges will take the higher score kids all else being equal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here--many say, "oh kid got 1350 but has all As in tough classes so it must be grade inflation" "they couldn't keep up in a top college", I am questioning that myth

Okay. Don't listen to what others say. Particularly on DCUM.

[Anonymous]

Test optional really needs to go away.

[Anonymous]

So if the kids is great in everything else has v rigorous tough classes and in magnet school , and an athlete , 1350 is ok??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here--many say, "oh kid got 1350 but has all As in tough classes so it must be grade inflation" "they couldn't keep up in a top college", I am questioning that myth

Because it's not 1990. The SAT has become easier and easier as it has evolved. A 1350 back then was closer to 98th percentile because the test was actually more rigorous and tested something called scholastic aptitude. Then it was about "assessment." Huh?? Now the College Board has renamed the test to literally stand for the letters "S A T" I guess because you sit for the test.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is a lot of easier to get all As than top 10% or top 1% in SAT/ ACTs. Approx 40% of the 3.7million people applying have all As but only 1% have over 1500. That still is 37K students for top ranked schools to pick from.

1350 is a decent score but you are not in the top 1% of the population. Grading system in schools is screwed up so you are really measure students caliber based on grades.

Do those 1% have 1500 in one sitting or with superscore?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So if the kids is great in everything else has v rigorous tough classes and in magnet school , and an athlete , 1350 is ok??

If they're a recruited athlete, the school will tell them what they need

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So if the kids is great in everything else has v rigorous tough classes and in magnet school , and an athlete , 1350 is ok??

No, its only okay for top 20 schools if the athlete is recruited athlete. otherwise athlete is no different from other kid volunteering at animal shelter once a week.