AMOC could collapse in the 2030s

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Anonymous wrote:"could collapse as soon as the late 2030s, scientists have suggested"

Could and Suggested. In a newspaper article that was written by a non-scientist who is filling space and begging people to read their article

I wouldn't worry. Itis possible. It is also possible that there if a nuclear-type weapon launched from a galaxy far, far away that will land tomorrow.

In a newspaper article that contains a link to the actual paper, which is not yet published but has been peer reviewed. From the paper: "The mean AMOC tipping time estimate from ORAS5 is year 2050 and is robust to varying CPend (Figure 4a). The earliest year (mean 10% percentile level) for a potential AMOC collapse is 2037 and the latest year (mean 90% percentile level) is 2064. The average probability of an AMOC collapse before the year 2050 is 59% with a standard deviation of 17% for ORAS5 (cf. Figure 4b)."

Now, please provide a link to a paper about the probability of nuclear weapons being launched from intragalactic space produced by scientists with similar credentials.*

* Prof. dr. ir. H.A. (Henk) Dijkstra Professor of physics, marine and atmospheric research, and physical oceanography, also chair of dynamic oceanography--not to mention Utrecht University is in the Netherlands, which has been actively involved with the ocean and land reclamation since the 1300s
*Dr. R.M. (René) van Westen PhD candidate in same areas, also at Utrecht University
*E.J.V. (Emma) Smolders, also PhD candidate in same areas, also at Utrecht University

It’s so depressing. Any chance we have to avert it has been destroyed by MAGA and their counterparts across the globe.

This was not caused by MAGA. It was set into motion by our forefathers.

I'm not sure what our grandparents, parents, ourselves, our children could have done, could do differently to change this. What do you see that could have happened some other way?

My parents talk about the 70s gas crisis and the beginning of the drive to alternative energy. But we dropped the ball. MAGA contributes to it and makes it hopeless with their war on science.

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I don't even think it's about when a huge climate disaster happens. It's about how weather has recently contributed to a lot of bad stuff. Some things are inevitable but it's pretty obvious some of these things are really bad signs that more frequently, we are going to see negative impacts due to climate change. It doesn't really take a big disaster as frequent little disasters will be bad enough!

[Anonymous]

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I wouldn't worry. Itis possible. It is also possible that there if a nuclear-type weapon launched from a galaxy far, far away that will land tomorrow.

NASA scientist here - you’re not wrong about reading articles about scientific predictions with a healthy objectivity. Public articles often don’t distinguish between something that’s a 50% likelihood and something that’s a 0.5% likelihood. But the chance of attack from space is as close to zero as can be.

But this AMOC prediction isn't public articles misinterpreting results. The actual finding, across multiple peer reviewed studies, is AMOC collapse this century, with 50% before 2050.

What the article hasn't answered for me is if a new type of circulation will take over. I don't believe it will collapse to zero.

[Anonymous]

Things change. People lose sight of this. Doesn't matter how or why - everything changes. We're not going to have the arctic stay cold till infinity you know? Florida is not going to just have nice pretty beaches for 1000 years. That's not how life works.

Maybe we are rushing things but constant change is happening. We are able to measure things in ways we never did before - we can and we do. That's evolution. We need to accept change and find solutions to address the changes we have to adapt to in order to continue living the lives we find meaningful.

We will. There's no other way!

[Anonymous]

I have the sweetest most wonderful freckle faced little collie dog. She’s 6. When she dies, I’m going to make my own controlled exit. I don’t want to watch what the coming decades will bring to human civilization.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Things change. People lose sight of this. Doesn't matter how or why - everything changes. We're not going to have the arctic stay cold till infinity you know? Florida is not going to just have nice pretty beaches for 1000 years. That's not how life works.

Maybe we are rushing things but constant change is happening. We are able to measure things in ways we never did before - we can and we do. That's evolution. We need to accept change and find solutions to address the changes we have to adapt to in order to continue living the lives we find meaningful.

We will. There's no other way!

Rushing things is not evolution . . . and in order to "find solutions to address changes" we have to have a society and political environment that is not anti-science. Unfortunately, that is not the case.