Fighting aps math recommendation

[Anonymous]

I would resolve this asap with a short straightforward email to the math rep listed on the letter copying guidance counselor.
No phone calls, no discussions, just be direct, clear and respectful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My son’s iPad glitched during one of the standardized tests in May (MAP?) so he had to borrow another iPad, started test 20 minutes late and had to rush to finish. I complained after the test but he wasn’t allowed to retake. I’m glad I have that conversation saved with teacher so I can use it to try to get him in preAlgebra as he missed the cutoff score.

The MAP score is not the May test. It is the winter one that was used. At least for my daughter it is her mid year (January) score.

[Anonymous]

Parents have the final say.

[Anonymous]

These recommendations are entirely computer generated based on scoring cutoffs. We are debating whether we push for our rising 6th grader to be placed in pre algebra. Scored a 268 on MAP which is over 30 points over cutoff. But got a 546 on SOL—three points below cutoff.

If we do push, I think we will take the approach of telling them and citing the APS policy on it. I’m not going to ask when the policy is I get final say.

[Anonymous]

Politely engage and get DC in pre-algebra.

Assignments appear to be made by looking at raw numeric thresholds, not by looking at the overall picture.

[Anonymous]

Last year we got in with the math inventory slightly below, though the MOY score hit the target. They may have changed the process slightly

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Fought"? You simply email the counselor. It's not a big deal.

But likely his prior teacher recommended Math 7 due to something they see going on in the class.

NP here. It definitely wasn’t that simple for us. In fact, they told us “no” initially, then finally agreed to have the child start in the lower math class, then reassess after fall testing (this was via phone). So he ended up in the higher class, but had to catch up on a month’s worth of material and work.

We were also told it’s actually told it’s the central APS math office who decides, so contact them.

Was this 6th or 7th grade? (Op asking, stressing out again)

It was for 7th grade. I agree with others that they really only look at score cut-offs, despite claiming to use other factors. You should be able to get it changed, though, if you persist.

[Anonymous]

Op update— heard back from his counselor and they moved him no problem. The person to contact is your child’s counselor. Didn’t hear anything back from the principal or the math office. The counselor responded right away though.
Aps policy is that the recommendation is just that — a recommendation— so you the parent have final say. I think if I had been pushing something more of a stretch it may have been different, but since my son was right at the cutoff it wasn’t an issue at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Op update— heard back from his counselor and they moved him no problem. The person to contact is your child’s counselor. Didn’t hear anything back from the principal or the math office. The counselor responded right away though.
Aps policy is that the recommendation is just that — a recommendation— so you the parent have final say. I think if I had been pushing something more of a stretch it may have been different, but since my son was right at the cutoff it wasn’t an issue at all.

Is that the same for rising 6th?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:These recommendations are entirely computer generated based on scoring cutoffs. We are debating whether we push for our rising 6th grader to be placed in pre algebra. Scored a 268 on MAP which is over 30 points over cutoff. But got a 546 on SOL—three points below cutoff.

If we do push, I think we will take the approach of telling them and citing the APS policy on it. I’m not going to ask when the policy is I get final say.

I would absolutely push on it. The Math 6 teachers at DHMS are great, but they can only do so much to teach to an entire class of learners, some of whom are very, very below grade level.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Op update— heard back from his counselor and they moved him no problem. The person to contact is your child’s counselor. Didn’t hear anything back from the principal or the math office. The counselor responded right away though.
Aps policy is that the recommendation is just that — a recommendation— so you the parent have final say. I think if I had been pushing something more of a stretch it may have been different, but since my son was right at the cutoff it wasn’t an issue at all.

Has anyone else had success with reaching counselors? I emailed my daughter’s and got an out of office until August 19 response. No response from the math department, either.

[Anonymous]

So did the math office head at Hamm leave? I also noticed her name wasn’t on the letter (I’m guessing OP is a Hamm parent as well)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Op update— heard back from his counselor and they moved him no problem. The person to contact is your child’s counselor. Didn’t hear anything back from the principal or the math office. The counselor responded right away though.
Aps policy is that the recommendation is just that — a recommendation— so you the parent have final say. I think if I had been pushing something more of a stretch it may have been different, but since my son was right at the cutoff it wasn’t an issue at all.

Has anyone else had success with reaching counselors? I emailed my daughter’s and got an out of office until August 19 response. No response from the math department, either.

I got a response from the math department that they were looking into it and would get back to me next week.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So did the math office head at Hamm leave? I also noticed her name wasn’t on the letter (I’m guessing OP is a Hamm parent as well)

Op here— yes we are at hamm— and I think she did leave. Her linked in profile says she is looking to leave education, shame because she was actually really great.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So did the math office head at Hamm leave? I also noticed her name wasn’t on the letter (I’m guessing OP is a Hamm parent as well)

Op here— yes we are at hamm— and I think she did leave. Her linked in profile says she is looking to leave education, shame because she was actually really great.

Argh, that’s disappointing. She seems great at the spring parent orientation.