Why is there such a stigma associated with attending a community college when it's only temporary?

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Anonymous wrote:After 2 years, most community college students end up transferring to a university, with many of them transferring to flagships, and are in just as good as, if not better, standing than most of their peers from high school who went straight to university.

First start with your premise. First of all most do not end up transferring. A lot of the degrees offered at community colleges are terminal degrees.

Maybe 10% of community college students ever finish a four-year bachelor's degree. This idea community colleges are full of savvy smart kids taking cheap courses before they transfer to the state flagship is an absurd internet message board fabrication.

I agree with you, but I'd be curious to see hard stats. Do you have them?

I'm not your gofer. Just poke around government scorecard.

Ah, so you just throw fake numbers out there. Cool.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:After 2 years, most community college students end up transferring to a university, with many of them transferring to flagships, and are in just as good as, if not better, standing than most of their peers from high school who went straight to university.

Because top students can get merit scholarships to universities, poor students can get aid, athletes can get scholarships, rich students can get parents to pay so in the end you don't get desired peers who can challenge and help you grow.

That being said, if you don't have better affordable choices or scholarships or grades, go to community college, work your butt off and move to a good school. You'll he fine.

[Anonymous]

If you're one of the few lucky enough to transfer to a state flagship, good luck on being the least prepared (because your CC courses were all a rigor-less joke) and having no friends. Another internet fantasy: When you're 20 years old and transfer to a university as a junior from a community college, you make dozens of fast friends.

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Anonymous wrote:If you're one of the few lucky enough to transfer to a state flagship, good luck on being the least prepared (because your CC courses were all a rigor-less joke) and having no friends. Another internet fantasy: When you're 20 years old and transfer to a university as a junior from a community college, you make dozens of fast friends.

It only worked for me because I chose a new major where most students were new admits. I was academically prepared, though, because I'd only been out one semester.

- PP

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Anonymous wrote:After 2 years, most community college students end up transferring to a university, with many of them transferring to flagships, and are in just as good as, if not better, standing than most of their peers from high school who went straight to university.

First start with your premise. First of all most do not end up transferring. A lot of the degrees offered at community colleges are terminal degrees.

Maybe 10% of community college students ever finish a four-year bachelor's degree. This idea community colleges are full of savvy smart kids taking cheap courses before they transfer to the state flagship is an absurd internet message board fabrication.

I agree with you, but I'd be curious to see hard stats. Do you have them?

I'm not your gofer. Just poke around government scorecard.

Ah, so you just throw fake numbers out there. Cool.

DP but please don't be that askhole. You can look up this information yourself. You can go college by college and design your own spreadsheet and then you can come back and tell us all what you learned.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:After 2 years, most community college students end up transferring to a university, with many of them transferring to flagships, and are in just as good as, if not better, standing than most of their peers from high school who went straight to university.

I don’t think there’s any stigma for students who are other ge a four-year degree or who simply seem bright.

But I think the concern is that, for people who like their four-year college, the time when the most fun happens and the deepest connections form tends to be in the freshman dorm. For someone with a non-technical major who has a good experience, maybe living in the dorm freshman year is more important than the classes. So, people who had a great time in their freshman dorm feel bad for people who didn’t get to have a similar experience.

But living in a great dorm doesn’t necessarily lead to worldly success, and plenty of people who live in dorms hate the experience. Many students live at home, start out at community college and go on to have great lives. Whatever works for a particular student is great for that student. Other people might just have a hard time relating.

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Anonymous wrote:After 2 years, most community college students end up transferring to a university, with many of them transferring to flagships, and are in just as good as, if not better, standing than most of their peers from high school who went straight to university.

First start with your premise. First of all most do not end up transferring. A lot of the degrees offered at community colleges are terminal degrees.

Maybe 10% of community college students ever finish a four-year bachelor's degree. This idea community colleges are full of savvy smart kids taking cheap courses before they transfer to the state flagship is an absurd internet message board fabrication.

Not it is not a fabrication. There are/were some of us like this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:After 2 years, most community college students end up transferring to a university, with many of them transferring to flagships, and are in just as good as, if not better, standing than most of their peers from high school who went straight to university.

Because top students can get merit scholarships to universities, poor students can get aid, athletes can get scholarships, rich students can get parents to pay so in the end you don't get desired peers who can challenge and help you grow.

That being said, if you don't have better affordable choices or scholarships or grades, go to community college, work your butt off and move to a good school. You'll he fine.

This depends partly on a state’s college culture. California and Virginia seem to be examples of states with strong community colleges.

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Anonymous wrote:After 2 years, most community college students end up transferring to a university, with many of them transferring to flagships, and are in just as good as, if not better, standing than most of their peers from high school who went straight to university.

First start with your premise. First of all most do not end up transferring. A lot of the degrees offered at community colleges are terminal degrees.

Maybe 10% of community college students ever finish a four-year bachelor's degree. This idea community colleges are full of savvy smart kids taking cheap courses before they transfer to the state flagship is an absurd internet message board fabrication.

I agree with you, but I'd be curious to see hard stats. Do you have them?

I'm not your gofer. Just poke around government scorecard.

Ah, so you just throw fake numbers out there. Cool.

DP but please don't be that askhole. You can look up this information yourself. You can go college by college and design your own spreadsheet and then you can come back and tell us all what you learned.

The percentage is 19 percent in Virginia and 20 percent in Maryland:

https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/john.fink/viz/TrackingTransferStateOutcomes/Introduction

The press release summarizing the data is here:

https://ccrc.tc.columbia.edu/press-releases/new-reports-all-backgrounds-transfer.html

[Anonymous]

Wow you people are terrible. Most of the kids at my high school ended up at community college. Many of my friends who were straight A students went there because it was an affordable option for their families. About half transferred to bigger schools like Towson, frostburg, and UMD. The rest ended up finishing degrees at UMUC. These friends didnt end up being lawyers but all are employed, as teacher, admin assistant, graphic designer, to name a few. I guess those jobs wouldnt be good enough for the children of DCUMers though.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow you people are terrible. Most of the kids at my high school ended up at community college. Many of my friends who were straight A students went there because it was an affordable option for their families. About half transferred to bigger schools like Towson, frostburg, and UMD. The rest ended up finishing degrees at UMUC. These friends didnt end up being lawyers but all are employed, as teacher, admin assistant, graphic designer, to name a few. I guess those jobs wouldnt be good enough for the children of DCUMers though.

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I think you just need to hang out with different people. In my circle it is one of many avenues to higher education.

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Anonymous wrote:I think you just need to hang out with different people. In my circle it is one of many avenues to higher education.

Agree. Many kids go this route and the ones I know are not drug dealers or milking the system as a PP stated. I went that route and succeeded. I wanted to go away, but my parents didn’t have the money but they helped me with CC. I eventually obtained a Masters.

[Anonymous]

Because rich people hate poor people.

That's it. That's the answer.

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Anonymous wrote:After 2 years, most community college students end up transferring to a university, with many of them transferring to flagships, and are in just as good as, if not better, standing than most of their peers from high school who went straight to university.

First start with your premise. First of all most do not end up transferring. A lot of the degrees offered at community colleges are terminal degrees.

This. It's a real mix of people. Which is fine, but get real.

Also, it used to be more of an option for "losers" and "poors" - putting those in quotes bc obviously a terrible way to think about people. But state schools were way less expensive and less selective just a generation ago, so fewer "normal" HS students who had decent grades would start at a CC. There have always been exceptions and the UCs have a great pathway program for a long time. But that's the basis for the reputation.