After July 1, 10% tipping should now be the norm in DC

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We have to tip out two food runners, two bartenders and two bussers from your tip. The percentage is ca 7-7.5%.
Do 15% if you must or better, stay home. The reason we have so many workers is that we are busy. But if everyone leaves measly 10%, busy doesn't mean we make money.
Don't think that restaurants are making a bank either. Americans are used to eating out whenever they feel like it and now they have to think before they go out. Well, so does a restaurant worker; all services and entertainment is up.
We still have no benefits like retirement or health. And this increase doesn't even start to make up years of wage theft and not paying the minimum required by law.
You can't pay less than the menu price, but you can take your frustration out on the server.
Whatever was done to us before, should have never happened. I have several zeros in my SS statement even though I worked full time.
Also, if you ever lose your fancy job, you can always come to us as we take people without any experience.
Please stay home. Just like anything else that goes up, you buy less of it or stop buying at all. You don't try to find a way to pay less by taking it out of workers' pay.
There are owners already doing it, believe me.

That's a lot of whining. None of this is the customer's problem. You should take it up with your employer, or better yet, find a different line of employment if you hate this system so much.

Imagine the day where wait staff walk off the job because of too low wages. Businesses will be forced to pay appropriately. Then we can kill off this stupid tipping culture for good.

Your anger is misplaced. Again, none of the issues above are the customers responsibility. Do you worry about whether or not the garage owner where you take your car to be repaired is giving all of his mechanics health insurance, a 401k, and a liveable wage? No, I bet you don't because it isn't your problem as a customer to worry about. You pay the prices the mechanic asks for, that is it.

You're just a hypocrite asking for customers to fill in for your wages while you yourself wouldn't do the same for so many other service jobs they you patronize in the economy. It makes zero sense.

[Anonymous]

I do not mind paying 20% for service in restaurants. It seems normal to me and fine. I do mind tips for everything else a lot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I tip 25% because I’m not an AH.

FWIW, it is absolutely remarkable the things service workers will do for someone who tips this much better than you.

Dumb.

I can go to countries like Japan or Thailand and get 1000x better service than 99% of places in the USA.

Guess what? Zero tips. Somehow virtually every other country in the world has figured out how to have tons of restaurants, an even bigger eating out culture than the US, affordable prices, and zero tipping.

The fact that you equate tipping to better service just shows how little you've traveled the world and how brainwashed you are for the more stupid aspects of American culture that's completely backwards compared to the rest of the world.

[Anonymous]

Unless you are tipping in cash 20 percent is peanuts compared to the past.

For example when I went to college a lot of the girls busted their butt at a fancy restaurant near school as waitresses. They were fancy clothes, hair done, make up, spotless and restaurant checked. A few guts were waiters in tuxedos also showered, shaved and clothes immaculate. They got there early for shifts, stayed till last customer done.

But neck then all tips were 20 percent CASH. 100 dollar bill you skip waitress $20 cash.

Today people put tip on credit card. Most restaurants take the credit card processing fee out of tip, then there is SS, Medicare, UI, disability insurance, Fed and state taxes. Some also splits the tip bartenders, buss boys etc.

The waitress is taking a 50 percent haircut in tip. Plus the restaurant does not pay till paycheck and if restaurant goes under well poof money gone.

It is not as profitable to waitress as it was back 40 years ago. First people are cheaper and tips are not cash.

My father worked a job with tips. His better customers tipped 20 percent on card then also gave cash. For instance he drove a guy from DC to NYC in a blizzard in his limo as guy has big meeting and airport shut. Of course guy tipped 20 percent in corporate card but also tipped 20 percent cash. My dad got stuck in NYC a few so parked car, got hot lunch then headed out. The stupid tip on card does not give him cash to spend. His company only paid once a month and payroll taxes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OMG - an additional $4/hour does not equal your proposed 10% reduction in tips per tab. Furthermore, do you think waiters could live comfortably on $10 plus 10%? Try to put yourself in their shoes before you suggest that those of us wealthy enough to eat out regularly should stiff the working class in our high cost area.

Idiotic post.

It's not the customer's job to make sure a waiter can live off what they earn AT THEIR JOB. Take it up with their employer.

10% might be a little low, sure, but the major point being missed is that customers should now reduce their tips propeotionally to the rising base wages. Those wage hikes are inevitably going to get passed onto consumers in the form of higher menu prices.

When's it stop? You're seriously going to sit there with a straight face and tell everyone they should still tip 20% when hourly wages for tipped workers goes to $15/h? How about $20/h? $25/h?

Sorry, but once you start exceeding minimum wage per hour, it is no longer the customer's responsibility to tip anymore. The only reason tipping existed in the first place was because wait staff were paid well below minimum wages per hour. The more that gap closes, the less customers should tip. Admit it, you can't explain why you should tip restaurant wait staff who may soon be earning $20/h at this rate while you never tip the Amazon delivery guy who also makes $20/h even though they both provide a service.

You really suck as a human being. If you are not going to tip, I hope you get the service you deserve.

You are an imbecile.

Do you tip the FedEx guy?
Do you tip the mailman?
Do you tip the driveway repair guy?
Do you tip your roofers?
Do you tip the Amazon delivery guy?
Do you tip the bagger at the grocery store?
Do you tip the mechanic?
Do you tip your kids' teachers?
Do you tip the nurse at the hospital?


Just admit US tipping culture makes no sense. All of those jobs above provide service, yet none of them regularly get or expect tips. Restaurant staff are not something special. Once they start exceeding minimum wages, why is there any tipping? The only reason tipping existed for wait staff was because they were paid far below minimum wage. Once laws go into place forcing businesses to pay them minimum wage, customers are no logner required or expected to tip.

Again, take liveable wage issues up with employers. It is never a customer's responsibility to ensure an employee is paid enough. It is utterly moronic to think a customer should be the ones responsible for wages. Rising minimum wages will get reflected in menu prices. Customers should therefore tip less since the money is going to pay increased base wages. It's really simple logic you seem to have a hard time understanding.

No, because all those people making a LIVING wage. Restaurant workers, like waiters, do not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Unless you are tipping in cash 20 percent is peanuts compared to the past.

For example when I went to college a lot of the girls busted their butt at a fancy restaurant near school as waitresses. They were fancy clothes, hair done, make up, spotless and restaurant checked. A few guts were waiters in tuxedos also showered, shaved and clothes immaculate. They got there early for shifts, stayed till last customer done.

But neck then all tips were 20 percent CASH. 100 dollar bill you skip waitress $20 cash.

Today people put tip on credit card. Most restaurants take the credit card processing fee out of tip, then there is SS, Medicare, UI, disability insurance, Fed and state taxes. Some also splits the tip bartenders, buss boys etc.

The waitress is taking a 50 percent haircut in tip. Plus the restaurant does not pay till paycheck and if restaurant goes under well poof money gone.

It is not as profitable to waitress as it was back 40 years ago. First people are cheaper and tips are not cash.

My father worked a job with tips. His better customers tipped 20 percent on card then also gave cash. For instance he drove a guy from DC to NYC in a blizzard in his limo as guy has big meeting and airport shut. Of course guy tipped 20 percent in corporate card but also tipped 20 percent cash. My dad got stuck in NYC a few so parked car, got hot lunch then headed out. The stupid tip on card does not give him cash to spend. His company only paid once a month and payroll taxes.

Lololololll.

You are complaining 20% tips are peanuts essentially because waiters have to how pay taxes and are no longer getting paid under the table with cash receipts they can hide from the IRS?

Congrats on the the stupidest post I've ever read on DCUM.

[Anonymous]

I'll still tip 20% but will have to order less expensive meals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'll still be tipping 20% for table service.

This. $10 an hour is nothing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG - an additional $4/hour does not equal your proposed 10% reduction in tips per tab. Furthermore, do you think waiters could live comfortably on $10 plus 10%? Try to put yourself in their shoes before you suggest that those of us wealthy enough to eat out regularly should stiff the working class in our high cost area.

Idiotic post.

It's not the customer's job to make sure a waiter can live off what they earn AT THEIR JOB. Take it up with their employer.

10% might be a little low, sure, but the major point being missed is that customers should now reduce their tips propeotionally to the rising base wages. Those wage hikes are inevitably going to get passed onto consumers in the form of higher menu prices.

When's it stop? You're seriously going to sit there with a straight face and tell everyone they should still tip 20% when hourly wages for tipped workers goes to $15/h? How about $20/h? $25/h?

Sorry, but once you start exceeding minimum wage per hour, it is no longer the customer's responsibility to tip anymore. The only reason tipping existed in the first place was because wait staff were paid well below minimum wages per hour. The more that gap closes, the less customers should tip. Admit it, you can't explain why you should tip restaurant wait staff who may soon be earning $20/h at this rate while you never tip the Amazon delivery guy who also makes $20/h even though they both provide a service.

You really suck as a human being. If you are not going to tip, I hope you get the service you deserve.

You are an imbecile.

Do you tip the FedEx guy?
Do you tip the mailman?
Do you tip the driveway repair guy?
Do you tip your roofers?
Do you tip the Amazon delivery guy?
Do you tip the bagger at the grocery store?
Do you tip the mechanic?
Do you tip your kids' teachers?
Do you tip the nurse at the hospital?


Just admit US tipping culture makes no sense. All of those jobs above provide service, yet none of them regularly get or expect tips. Restaurant staff are not something special. Once they start exceeding minimum wages, why is there any tipping? The only reason tipping existed for wait staff was because they were paid far below minimum wage. Once laws go into place forcing businesses to pay them minimum wage, customers are no logner required or expected to tip.

Again, take liveable wage issues up with employers. It is never a customer's responsibility to ensure an employee is paid enough. It is utterly moronic to think a customer should be the ones responsible for wages. Rising minimum wages will get reflected in menu prices. Customers should therefore tip less since the money is going to pay increased base wages. It's really simple logic you seem to have a hard time understanding.

No, because all those people making a LIVING wage. Restaurant workers, like waiters, do not.

Ok, so why is a living wage the responsibility of the customer?

How in the hell would a customer even know if wait staff were earning livable wages?

Really terrible logic you have.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'll still be tipping 20% for table service.

This. $10 an hour is nothing.

Well, if you want to hand out charity to make yourself feel better, by all means. That doesn't mean customers should be expected to keep shelling out 20% tips as rising minimum wages get phased in and cause menu price hikes. You do you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG - an additional $4/hour does not equal your proposed 10% reduction in tips per tab. Furthermore, do you think waiters could live comfortably on $10 plus 10%? Try to put yourself in their shoes before you suggest that those of us wealthy enough to eat out regularly should stiff the working class in our high cost area.

Idiotic post.

It's not the customer's job to make sure a waiter can live off what they earn AT THEIR JOB. Take it up with their employer.

10% might be a little low, sure, but the major point being missed is that customers should now reduce their tips propeotionally to the rising base wages. Those wage hikes are inevitably going to get passed onto consumers in the form of higher menu prices.

When's it stop? You're seriously going to sit there with a straight face and tell everyone they should still tip 20% when hourly wages for tipped workers goes to $15/h? How about $20/h? $25/h?

Sorry, but once you start exceeding minimum wage per hour, it is no longer the customer's responsibility to tip anymore. The only reason tipping existed in the first place was because wait staff were paid well below minimum wages per hour. The more that gap closes, the less customers should tip. Admit it, you can't explain why you should tip restaurant wait staff who may soon be earning $20/h at this rate while you never tip the Amazon delivery guy who also makes $20/h even though they both provide a service.

You really suck as a human being. If you are not going to tip, I hope you get the service you deserve.

But tipping is done AFTER the service is performed. So that's not going to happen. Tipping is something we do out of the kindness of our hearts. It changes nothing if I tip 0 or 50% other than make me feel holier than thou.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG - an additional $4/hour does not equal your proposed 10% reduction in tips per tab. Furthermore, do you think waiters could live comfortably on $10 plus 10%? Try to put yourself in their shoes before you suggest that those of us wealthy enough to eat out regularly should stiff the working class in our high cost area.

Idiotic post.

It's not the customer's job to make sure a waiter can live off what they earn AT THEIR JOB. Take it up with their employer.

10% might be a little low, sure, but the major point being missed is that customers should now reduce their tips propeotionally to the rising base wages. Those wage hikes are inevitably going to get passed onto consumers in the form of higher menu prices.

When's it stop? You're seriously going to sit there with a straight face and tell everyone they should still tip 20% when hourly wages for tipped workers goes to $15/h? How about $20/h? $25/h?

Sorry, but once you start exceeding minimum wage per hour, it is no longer the customer's responsibility to tip anymore. The only reason tipping existed in the first place was because wait staff were paid well below minimum wages per hour. The more that gap closes, the less customers should tip. Admit it, you can't explain why you should tip restaurant wait staff who may soon be earning $20/h at this rate while you never tip the Amazon delivery guy who also makes $20/h even though they both provide a service.

You really suck as a human being. If you are not going to tip, I hope you get the service you deserve.

You are an imbecile.

Do you tip the FedEx guy?
Do you tip the mailman?
Do you tip the driveway repair guy?
Do you tip your roofers?
Do you tip the Amazon delivery guy?
Do you tip the bagger at the grocery store?
Do you tip the mechanic?
Do you tip your kids' teachers?
Do you tip the nurse at the hospital?


Just admit US tipping culture makes no sense. All of those jobs above provide service, yet none of them regularly get or expect tips. Restaurant staff are not something special. Once they start exceeding minimum wages, why is there any tipping? The only reason tipping existed for wait staff was because they were paid far below minimum wage. Once laws go into place forcing businesses to pay them minimum wage, customers are no logner required or expected to tip.

Again, take liveable wage issues up with employers. It is never a customer's responsibility to ensure an employee is paid enough. It is utterly moronic to think a customer should be the ones responsible for wages. Rising minimum wages will get reflected in menu prices. Customers should therefore tip less since the money is going to pay increased base wages. It's really simple logic you seem to have a hard time understanding.

+1,000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG - an additional $4/hour does not equal your proposed 10% reduction in tips per tab. Furthermore, do you think waiters could live comfortably on $10 plus 10%? Try to put yourself in their shoes before you suggest that those of us wealthy enough to eat out regularly should stiff the working class in our high cost area.

Idiotic post.

It's not the customer's job to make sure a waiter can live off what they earn AT THEIR JOB. Take it up with their employer.

10% might be a little low, sure, but the major point being missed is that customers should now reduce their tips propeotionally to the rising base wages. Those wage hikes are inevitably going to get passed onto consumers in the form of higher menu prices.

When's it stop? You're seriously going to sit there with a straight face and tell everyone they should still tip 20% when hourly wages for tipped workers goes to $15/h? How about $20/h? $25/h?

Sorry, but once you start exceeding minimum wage per hour, it is no longer the customer's responsibility to tip anymore. The only reason tipping existed in the first place was because wait staff were paid well below minimum wages per hour. The more that gap closes, the less customers should tip. Admit it, you can't explain why you should tip restaurant wait staff who may soon be earning $20/h at this rate while you never tip the Amazon delivery guy who also makes $20/h even though they both provide a service.

You really suck as a human being. If you are not going to tip, I hope you get the service you deserve.

What an intelligent, well thought out argument. Right up there with "I know you are, but what am I?".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG - an additional $4/hour does not equal your proposed 10% reduction in tips per tab. Furthermore, do you think waiters could live comfortably on $10 plus 10%? Try to put yourself in their shoes before you suggest that those of us wealthy enough to eat out regularly should stiff the working class in our high cost area.

Idiotic post.

It's not the customer's job to make sure a waiter can live off what they earn AT THEIR JOB. Take it up with their employer.

10% might be a little low, sure, but the major point being missed is that customers should now reduce their tips propeotionally to the rising base wages. Those wage hikes are inevitably going to get passed onto consumers in the form of higher menu prices.

When's it stop? You're seriously going to sit there with a straight face and tell everyone they should still tip 20% when hourly wages for tipped workers goes to $15/h? How about $20/h? $25/h?

Sorry, but once you start exceeding minimum wage per hour, it is no longer the customer's responsibility to tip anymore. The only reason tipping existed in the first place was because wait staff were paid well below minimum wages per hour. The more that gap closes, the less customers should tip. Admit it, you can't explain why you should tip restaurant wait staff who may soon be earning $20/h at this rate while you never tip the Amazon delivery guy who also makes $20/h even though they both provide a service.

You really suck as a human being. If you are not going to tip, I hope you get the service you deserve.

You are an imbecile.

Do you tip the FedEx guy?
Do you tip the mailman?
Do you tip the driveway repair guy?
Do you tip your roofers?
Do you tip the Amazon delivery guy?
Do you tip the bagger at the grocery store?
Do you tip the mechanic?
Do you tip your kids' teachers?
Do you tip the nurse at the hospital?


Just admit US tipping culture makes no sense. All of those jobs above provide service, yet none of them regularly get or expect tips. Restaurant staff are not something special. Once they start exceeding minimum wages, why is there any tipping? The only reason tipping existed for wait staff was because they were paid far below minimum wage. Once laws go into place forcing businesses to pay them minimum wage, customers are no logner required or expected to tip.

Again, take liveable wage issues up with employers. It is never a customer's responsibility to ensure an employee is paid enough. It is utterly moronic to think a customer should be the ones responsible for wages. Rising minimum wages will get reflected in menu prices. Customers should therefore tip less since the money is going to pay increased base wages. It's really simple logic you seem to have a hard time understanding.

No, because all those people making a LIVING wage. Restaurant workers, like waiters, do not.

I didn't force you to take a job as a server. Wages are between the employer and employee. If the server isn't making a living wage at their job, then they should work someplace where they can make a living wage. I pay the menu prices. As the tipped wage increases, I expect to be able to reduce the amount of tip I leave. Someday I would hope that the tipped wage concept is a thing of the past. Just charge me the appropriate amount. I don't tip the guy at Home Depot for taking me through the store to find the part I'm looking for---it's his job. A servers job is to take your order and bring you your food.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OMG - an additional $4/hour does not equal your proposed 10% reduction in tips per tab. Furthermore, do you think waiters could live comfortably on $10 plus 10%? Try to put yourself in their shoes before you suggest that those of us wealthy enough to eat out regularly should stiff the working class in our high cost area.

I have no idea, because I have no idea how many tables servers serve per hour because I'm not the manager.

This is why I only go to restaurants where the cost is such that I can tip highly and not notice the impact on my finances.

I don't get pleasure from fussing over tips and menu prices. It ruins the meal, so I'd rather not go. I eat well enough at home.