4 yrs of English a must? STEM

Anonymous
In the United States high school students take four years of English.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Aren't 4 years of English a graduation requirement?


He got credit for honors 9 and 10 during middle school. In addition to what he has taken in high school is already over graduation requirements, but I’m more concerned with college admissions


I've never heard of this. Do you live in another region of the country?

This. What school or school district is this? English isn’t usually treated like math or science that can be advanced that way. Generally, all freshmen take English 9, all sophs take English 10, etc., possibly with honors designations if available. Some schools start offering APs or other electives in 11th, some not until 12th. I’ve heard of kids advanced so that they skip grades entirely and are HS freshmen at age 10 or whatever. But I’ve never heard of a student classed as a 7th or 8th grader taking English 9 and 10. It’s so far outside the realm of what I’ve heard of and my understanding of how schools set up their English curricula that I just don’t believe it without some kind of proof.
Anonymous
He has taken four years of English.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:He has taken four years of English.

The HS graduation requirement of four years of English doesn’t work the same way as, say, four years of French, where you need to get through French 4 but a lot of kids can manage that by 10th or 11th because they started in middle school. It means you have to take English in all four years of high school. That’s generally not negotiable.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Senior with a dilemma of what to take next yr:

My son took a couple yrs of high school English in middle school. He started freshman year in 11 Honors, took AP Eng lang sophomore yr and AP Eng lit junior yr. He is wanting to pursue STEM field in college. Senior yr there are no more AP English classes available to him, he could take advanced journalism or creative but neither are AP level courses. He could do duel enrollment for college level English, but that cuts into his day leaving less time for other classes. He would rather take 2 math or 2 sciences. Since he has already taken the two AP English classes available, would it be looked down if he takes a less rigorous English class his senior yr?

One DE English semester per year would be fine, and wouldn't take up as much time as a full year English class/elective
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Aren't 4 years of English a graduation requirement?


He got credit for honors 9 and 10 during middle school. In addition to what he has taken in high school is already over graduation requirements, but I’m more concerned with college admissions


I've never heard of this. Do you live in another region of the country?

I’ve heard of kids advanced so that they skip grades entirely and are HS freshmen at age 10 or whatever
If you believe 10 year olds can take high school English, why is OP's story of a 12/13 year old taking high school English so hard to believe?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He has taken four years of English.

The HS graduation requirement of four years of English doesn’t work the same way as, say, four years of French, where you need to get through French 4 but a lot of kids can manage that by 10th or 11th because they started in middle school. It means you have to take English in all four years of high school. That’s generally not negotiable.
You have no evidence for this claim.
Anonymous
OP, you might want to ask college confidential
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Aren't 4 years of English a graduation requirement?


He got credit for honors 9 and 10 during middle school. In addition to what he has taken in high school is already over graduation requirements, but I’m more concerned with college admissions


I've never heard of this. Do you live in another region of the country?

I’ve heard of kids advanced so that they skip grades entirely and are HS freshmen at age 10 or whatever
If you believe 10 year olds can take high school English, why is OP's story of a 12/13 year old taking high school English so hard to believe?


It’s hard for me to believe because in my district English is used to define grades: a senior is defined as a student who has passed English 11 and Algebra 2 and accumulated 18 Carnegie Units. You can’t graduate without English 12 but you can graduate in 3 years if you meet all the graduation requirements. Thus if you accelerate English, as OP’s kid did, you switch from being advanced for your grade (in the class of 2025) to being young for your grade (in the class of 2024). It’s terrible if this was allowed to happen to OP’s kid without them understanding it, because it would mean they will accidentally graduate from high school this month and they obviously are not prepared for that.
Anonymous
Some people are so close to recognizing that they value vocational schools. So close.
Anonymous
Why not just take a non AP English class? It likely won’t adversely affect college admissions if there aren’t any more to be taken.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why not just take a non AP English class? It likely won’t adversely affect college admissions if there aren’t any more to be taken.


This is what we are thinking. He just isn’t that interested in dual enrollment for English at this point and would rather take a non AP English class at home high school
Anonymous
What school allows high school english in 7th and 8th grade? Did you kid get 5s on the AP Lang and AP Lit test? I just can’t imagine a 12 year old could actually understand mature book themes at the same level as a 14 or 15 year old. Huge difference in maturity and development.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What school allows high school english in 7th and 8th grade? Did you kid get 5s on the AP Lang and AP Lit test? I just can’t imagine a 12 year old could actually understand mature book themes at the same level as a 14 or 15 year old. Huge difference in maturity and development.


Maybe not in DC, but there are several areas in the country, particularly in mediocre public school districts close to universities, that offer accelerated “pre-college” programs for qualified middle school students-these typically are high school level classes
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What school allows high school english in 7th and 8th grade? Did you kid get 5s on the AP Lang and AP Lit test? I just can’t imagine a 12 year old could actually understand mature book themes at the same level as a 14 or 15 year old. Huge difference in maturity and development.


The kid took the APs only one year earlier than usual.

There are no "mature themes" to understand. Just need to regurgitate the SparkNotes.
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