6 year old and pullups

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reason he pees at night is because his body is not yet producing the necessary hormones to hold his urine that long or wake when body triggers the need to empty his bladder.

He is not fully emptying his bladder if his pajamas are slightly damp. He is learning not to pee at night. It’s either a wacky coincidence that the introduction of disposable diapers coincided with the progressive increase in nighttime and daytime potty training age, or the convenience of diapers has delayed potty training. Kids don’t have to be rushed to potty train, but just know that in 1950, 90% were daytime trained by 18 mo. So clearly, most of the 3 and 4 year olds still in pull-ups today could have been out of diapers in different circumstances.

https://www.aafp.org/pubs/afp/issues/2019/1015/p468.html

It’s easier and more convenient to just change a diaper on a kid than having to worry about remembering to take them to the bathroom. Kids usually don’t care and most people just accept that’s what we do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reason he pees at night is because his body is not yet producing the necessary hormones to hold his urine that long or wake when body triggers the need to empty his bladder.

He is not fully emptying his bladder if his pajamas are slightly damp. He is learning not to pee at night. It’s either a wacky coincidence that the introduction of disposable diapers coincided with the progressive increase in nighttime and daytime potty training age, or the convenience of diapers has delayed potty training. Kids don’t have to be rushed to potty train, but just know that in 1950, 90% were daytime trained by 18 mo. So clearly, most of the 3 and 4 year olds still in pull-ups today could have been out of diapers in different circumstances.

https://www.aafp.org/pubs/afp/issues/2019/1015/p468.html

What are you talking about? My 70 year old mother still holds trauma from wetting the bed in elementary school and being shamed by her parents. Its biological and genetic. But the realization of that is modern, and thankfully most of us know better and treat our kids better now.

[Anonymous]

I’ve babysat school aged kids who still need protection at night. It’s completely normal and as long as you don’t make a big deal about it they will be okay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reason he pees at night is because his body is not yet producing the necessary hormones to hold his urine that long or wake when body triggers the need to empty his bladder.

He is not fully emptying his bladder if his pajamas are slightly damp. He is learning not to pee at night. It’s either a wacky coincidence that the introduction of disposable diapers coincided with the progressive increase in nighttime and daytime potty training age, or the convenience of diapers has delayed potty training. Kids don’t have to be rushed to potty train, but just know that in 1950, 90% were daytime trained by 18 mo. So clearly, most of the 3 and 4 year olds still in pull-ups today could have been out of diapers in different circumstances.

https://www.aafp.org/pubs/afp/issues/2019/1015/p468.html

What are you talking about? My 70 year old mother still holds trauma from wetting the bed in elementary school and being shamed by her parents. Its biological and genetic. But the realization of that is modern, and thankfully most of us know better and treat our kids better now.

This is where you accept that your mother’s recollection is anecdotal whereas the study cited uses actual data. Yes some kids were traumatized back then. And in 50 years, kids of today will be traumatized that they were in diapers when they got their first iPhone. That doesn’t mean that kids are potty trained later these days largely because of the convenience of disposable diapers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reason he pees at night is because his body is not yet producing the necessary hormones to hold his urine that long or wake when body triggers the need to empty his bladder.

He is not fully emptying his bladder if his pajamas are slightly damp. He is learning not to pee at night. It’s either a wacky coincidence that the introduction of disposable diapers coincided with the progressive increase in nighttime and daytime potty training age, or the convenience of diapers has delayed potty training. Kids don’t have to be rushed to potty train, but just know that in 1950, 90% were daytime trained by 18 mo. So clearly, most of the 3 and 4 year olds still in pull-ups today could have been out of diapers in different circumstances.

https://www.aafp.org/pubs/afp/issues/2019/1015/p468.html

This linked article doesn't say anything about kids trained in 1950! It's not what the article is about at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I dont think i would use them for this. It doesn't seem to be a big deal. But I have an 8 year old who soaks the bed every single night and yes he still wears pull ups. Damp pajamas that arent waking him and dont result in changing the sheets doesn't seem like an issue.

This. My 8yo is like this too

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I dont think i would use them for this. It doesn't seem to be a big deal. But I have an 8 year old who soaks the bed every single night and yes he still wears pull ups. Damp pajamas that arent waking him and dont result in changing the sheets doesn't seem like an issue.

This. My 8yo is like this too

If it’s a nightly occurrence then his body might not be ready and that’s okay. I wouldn’t even discuss the possibility of going without the pull-ups until you notice he has had some dry nights.

[Anonymous]

Goodnights

[Anonymous]

Mine was an extremely deep sleeper. Our pediatrician told us that eventually the bladder is big enough to hold everything overnight. Eventually, it was at around 8 years old. He also told us that it takes about 45 minutes for liquids to make it from our mouths to our bladder, so think about what they drink after dinner and how it could affect sleeping.

[Anonymous]

Let me just tell you that it's a lot easier to do pull-ups than to wash the sheets for four years straight (ask me how I know). Past a certain point, a kid won't want to go back to pull-ups, but I've known two different kids who regressed from being night-trained to having constant accidents for years, but wouldn't consent to a pull-up anymore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reason he pees at night is because his body is not yet producing the necessary hormones to hold his urine that long or wake when body triggers the need to empty his bladder.

He is not fully emptying his bladder if his pajamas are slightly damp. He is learning not to pee at night. It’s either a wacky coincidence that the introduction of disposable diapers coincided with the progressive increase in nighttime and daytime potty training age, or the convenience of diapers has delayed potty training. Kids don’t have to be rushed to potty train, but just know that in 1950, 90% were daytime trained by 18 mo. So clearly, most of the 3 and 4 year olds still in pull-ups today could have been out of diapers in different circumstances.

https://www.aafp.org/pubs/afp/issues/2019/1015/p468.html

What are you talking about? My 70 year old mother still holds trauma from wetting the bed in elementary school and being shamed by her parents. Its biological and genetic. But the realization of that is modern, and thankfully most of us know better and treat our kids better now.

This is where you accept that your mother’s recollection is anecdotal whereas the study cited uses actual data. Yes some kids were traumatized back then. And in 50 years, kids of today will be traumatized that they were in diapers when they got their first iPhone. That doesn’t mean that kids are potty trained later these days largely because of the convenience of disposable diapers.

NP. My son potty trained himself at 18m (not an exaggeration, he had an older sibling and wanted to do it too). He was completely dry from 18 months onwards during the day. At night however he's had to wear a pull up. He's 6 now. He's very embarrassed and aware of it because his 2 year old sister doesn't wear a diaper at night.

It has nothing to do with him not feeling the wetness. We spent about 3 months without pullups. I changed the sheets every single day. He woke up crying every day because he was soaking wet, laying in pee and was uncomfortable. He just turned 6 and is much better, but still wets the bed maybe 2x a week. Pull ups make him feel better about this. Otherwise he needed a shower before school every morning from laying in pee. (I also was getting fed up with changing sheets and everything was starting to smell, gag).

We've brought it up with the ped and they said it's common until 8, especially with boys. There is a drug that he could take if he went to sleepaway camp and didn't want to pee the bed, but I'm not interested in pursuing that path yet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let me just tell you that it's a lot easier to do pull-ups than to wash the sheets for four years straight (ask me how I know). Past a certain point, a kid won't want to go back to pull-ups, but I've known two different kids who regressed from being night-trained to having constant accidents for years, but wouldn't consent to a pull-up anymore.

If there are frequent accidents occurring then wearing protection is truly the only option. Even if they fuss about it at first after several nights of waking up in a dry bed they will be much happier. From my experience I’ve found that the regular tape on diapers work better than the pull-ups style because you can adjust the tapes to make it fit and you need a snug fit or it will end up leaking.

[Anonymous]

We still use the Pampers Swaddlers size 7 for night. Never had any issues with leaks or anything.

[Anonymous]

Is this recent? If so get tested for type I diabetes ASAP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reason he pees at night is because his body is not yet producing the necessary hormones to hold his urine that long or wake when body triggers the need to empty his bladder.

He is not fully emptying his bladder if his pajamas are slightly damp. He is learning not to pee at night. It’s either a wacky coincidence that the introduction of disposable diapers coincided with the progressive increase in nighttime and daytime potty training age, or the convenience of diapers has delayed potty training. Kids don’t have to be rushed to potty train, but just know that in 1950, 90% were daytime trained by 18 mo. So clearly, most of the 3 and 4 year olds still in pull-ups today could have been out of diapers in different circumstances.

https://www.aafp.org/pubs/afp/issues/2019/1015/p468.html

What are you talking about? My 70 year old mother still holds trauma from wetting the bed in elementary school and being shamed by her parents. Its biological and genetic. But the realization of that is modern, and thankfully most of us know better and treat our kids better now.

This is where you accept that your mother’s recollection is anecdotal whereas the study cited uses actual data. Yes some kids were traumatized back then. And in 50 years, kids of today will be traumatized that they were in diapers when they got their first iPhone. That doesn’t mean that kids are potty trained later these days largely because of the convenience of disposable diapers.

NP. My son potty trained himself at 18m (not an exaggeration, he had an older sibling and wanted to do it too). He was completely dry from 18 months onwards during the day. At night however he's had to wear a pull up. He's 6 now. He's very embarrassed and aware of it because his 2 year old sister doesn't wear a diaper at night.

It has nothing to do with him not feeling the wetness. We spent about 3 months without pullups. I changed the sheets every single day. He woke up crying every day because he was soaking wet, laying in pee and was uncomfortable. He just turned 6 and is much better, but still wets the bed maybe 2x a week. Pull ups make him feel better about this. Otherwise he needed a shower before school every morning from laying in pee. (I also was getting fed up with changing sheets and everything was starting to smell, gag).

We've brought it up with the ped and they said it's common until 8, especially with boys. There is a drug that he could take if he went to sleepaway camp and didn't want to pee the bed, but I'm not interested in pursuing that path yet.

Look, it’s clear that your kid was a rock star at daytime training and that you were a rockstar for changing sheets nightly for so long. But what you and everyone else is missing is that spending 3 months without pull-ups does not mean that your child was not eventually going to be night time trained without them. Forty years ago, parents in your situation didn’t have the option to go to cvs and buy pull-ups. They kept going with cloth diapers or no diapers and eventually the kid was night time trained. Also, just because it is “common” for 8 year olds to have accidents only means that it happens a lot today. But why do you think it wasn’t common 40 years ago? It’s the same reason why plagiocephaly spiked by 6 fold in the 80’s and 90’s. And why children suddenly started to be forgotten in hot cars to die. It’s because we changed something - back to sleep, rear facing car seats in the backseat, and plentiful pull-ups.