McDonald's is also crowded daily. The Chick-fil-A near me always has a line. Doesn't make either of them high-class. Likewise, Starbucks is a fast-food joint that is a quantity > quality type of establishment. Yes, of course, they make bank, just like any other fast food chain becuase that's what sells in this country. We are a fast-food, low quality, high fat, low standards type of place. We eat it up - both high and low class. So yes, OP, Starbucks is pure trash but Americans love it that way |
| The airport locations are especially gross. |
And venti means 20... Is the cup 20 ounces or wut. |
The grossest part of Starbucks is that it seems most orders are not coffee or cappuccinos — they are gigantic venti and trenti slushes and those Frappuccino ice cream shakes. It’s astonishing so many adults eat that crap every day. |
To be sure, this is hardly an American phenomenon but a human one. It's no different anywhere else. Except maybe Iceland. There's no Starbucks in Iceland. Or McDonald's... |
| Very downscale. It is basically McDonalds. |
| When have you seen a premium experience parked in every strip mall and grocery store you lay eyes on? It’s like McDonald’s, appeals to the masses. |
| It’s mop water |
It has always been like this. There has never been any "cosy upscale coffee shop vibe" at Starbucks. In fact there used to be coffee shops like that in the 90s, other coffee shops, and Starbucks pushed them all out of business. |
I don't know if it was ever upscale (because I've never been upscale), but I think that was kind of its original hook when it became nationally popular. You could get all kinds of different coffee drinks with flavors and adjustments, not just "regular coffee." That also made it feel expensive compared to a plain coffee from Dunkin. I agree that "fancy" coffee these days is locally roasted with different options for origins, roast, etc. I had a bit of a heart attack last year when I went to a new-ish local place for the first time, ordered a latte, and it was over $7. Also had a plain brewed coffee the other day that was $4. Whew, this is why I make it at home mostly. |
Where? Where are there "so many artisanal and wonderful" coffee shops? |
This ^^ is not hyperbole. |
| downscale |
| I've never thought Starbucks coffee tasted good. But the experience of going to one used to be nice and comfortable. Now it really does seem dirty and depressing (I feel the same way about Panera!) |
| Haven't been to Starbucks in many years, not even at the airport. Use a K-cup machine at home with ground Peet's coffee bought in a bag in sale from the grocery. United Club and Polaris lounges both have good Illy coffee. Work has a fancy automated coffee machine which grinds the coffee beans and brews 1 cup after you press go. |