Bill banning legacy admissions in all California colleges and universities passes Assembly

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Anonymous wrote:That's great. Hope this happens in the rest of the country as well.

It was passed 9 months ago in Virginia per public schools

Public colleges in CA have long disregarded legacy. Hard to believe that VA passed this as recently as 9 months ago! Yikes

But it still exists in other public universities. Look at the other post on this forum where the OP asks about legacy preference at UNC!

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+1 This mostly affects Stanford and USC. Sorry rich white people! Your affirmative action is ending in California.

Stanford is 21% white, and 26% Asian.

Compared to 35% of California's population overall being white.

https://facts.stanford.edu/academics/freshmen-class-profile/

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Anonymous wrote:This is bigger than just legacy

"An independent institution of higher education shall not provide a legacy preference or donor preference in admissions to an applicant as part of the regular or early action admissions process."

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=202320240AB1780


I'm sure the private college development offices are not happy

The private college development offices can suck it

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Anonymous wrote:It gets rid of the Z-list.

Would love to see Massachusetts do this. Would blow the stacks of people at Tufts, Harvard, etc.

+1,000,000

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There is no way that the state has this power. There will be a lawsuit and it will be stopped. This is all stupid.

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Banning donors is stupid. Goodbye financial aid.

Colleges should be smart enough to reject non donor legacies

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's great. Hope this happens in the rest of the country as well.

It was passed 9 months ago in Virginia per public schools

Public colleges in CA have long disregarded legacy. Hard to believe that VA passed this as recently as 9 months ago! Yikes

But it still exists in other public universities. Look at the other post on this forum where the OP asks about legacy preference at UNC!

I think that legacy preferences at UNC are just for OOS, at least it used to be, and the numbers were very, very small. An OOS legacy’s chance or getting in were still very much less than that of an in-state non-legacy. I’m not sure that the North Carolina legislature would care whether an out of state applicant who has a connection with the school has a preference over another out of state applicant who does not.

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Anonymous wrote:Banning donors is stupid. Goodbye financial aid.

Colleges should be smart enough to reject non donor legacies

As much as I wish college admissions were based purely on merit, this is a valid point. If Legacy families donate more out of loyalty, this funds financial aid that would not otherwise exist for many students. Of course, I don't know if it's true whether legacies are more likely to donate, and how much the difference is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's great. Hope this happens in the rest of the country as well.

It was passed 9 months ago in Virginia per public schools

Public colleges in CA have long disregarded legacy. Hard to believe that VA passed this as recently as 9 months ago! Yikes

If that were true, there would be no need for the new law, correct?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Banning donors is stupid. Goodbye financial aid.

Colleges should be smart enough to reject non donor legacies

This. Legislators are so short shorted. They see only the problem in front of them and they never see the longer range consequences of legislation. The legacy students make up a very small percent at USC and Stanford and yet they keep alumni engaged and donating.

I hope it fails.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's great. Hope this happens in the rest of the country as well.

It was passed 9 months ago in Virginia per public schools

Public colleges in CA have long disregarded legacy. Hard to believe that VA passed this as recently as 9 months ago! Yikes

If that were true, there would be no need for the new law, correct?

Well it IS true. As to your second question, I don’t think there is a need for this law.

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Anonymous wrote:WHAT THERE WERE PEOPLE STRONGLY CLAIMING THAT PRIVATE COLLEGES CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO SINCE THEY ARE PRIVATE

Racial discrimination is banned and now legacy is banned.
Progress

you are an idiot. Did you not receive a letter from your college or grad school saying notwithstanding the scotus decision they remained committed to diversity? I did from theee schools. Roberts said in his opinion that it was ok to discuss race in the essay, which is why colleges and universities have taken on even mord staff to parse through applucations for race hints.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Banning donors is stupid. Goodbye financial aid.

Colleges should be smart enough to reject non donor legacies

As much as I wish college admissions were based purely on merit, this is a valid point. If Legacy families donate more out of loyalty, this funds financial aid that would not otherwise exist for many students. Of course, I don't know if it's true whether legacies are more likely to donate, and how much the difference is.

This article looked at some available data.
https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2019/04/legacy-admissions-preferences-ivy/586465/
The study found “no statistically significant evidence” that legacy preferences themselves make any given alum more likely to donate;

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Banning donors is stupid. Goodbye financial aid.

Colleges should be smart enough to reject non donor legacies

This. Legislators are so short shorted. They see only the problem in front of them and they never see the longer range consequences of legislation. The legacy students make up a very small percent at USC and Stanford and yet they keep alumni engaged and donating.

I hope it fails.

14% of the student body being legacy or donor connected is NOT small. Stanford accepts only 3% of applicants.

https://latimes.com/california/story/2024-02-...uld-hit-usc-stanford
USC accepted 1,740 applicants with legacy or donor connections, or 14.4% of the fall 2022 admitted class, according to data submitted to the state. Of those, 96% were relatives of alumni and nearly 4% were connected only to donors. Stanford offered admission to 287 students, or 13.8% of the class — with 92% related to alumni and 8% with ties only to donors.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
+1 This mostly affects Stanford and USC. Sorry rich white people! Your affirmative action is ending in California.

Stanford is 21% white, and 26% Asian.

Compared to 35% of California's population overall being white.

https://facts.stanford.edu/academics/freshmen-class-profile/

+1. Truth! Schools have gone too far and that includes Princeton