How much do grades and iready scores impact AAP admissions?
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Anonymous
PP here, that makes sense. The other day I was looking at iReady score to percentile mapping chart, and notice that the raw score just keeps going up, but same raw score would map to different percentile at different grade. For example, a 540 at 1st grade is 99% but at 2nd grade would be 85% (just for demonstration purpose, number is not actual) So I do think the iready test is by design goes beyond the grade level, and that would test those kids at grade and above grade. That unfortunately means preps or learning ahead does help iready score. |
Anonymous
Ok so it makes sense that she is at 80% since we don’t do any outside math enrichment. She does read books daily. It seems unfair to test kids on material they have not learned to qualify kids for AAP. I was surprised to learn that many kids do indeed go to kumon, mathnasium, Russian school or others. This age seems too young for that. |
Anonymous
I’m looking at the iready letter and we don’t get raw scores. This test is from winter. I know first graders are taking iready this month. My daughter did not do well in the algebra and geometry portions of iready. I’m not sure what kind of algebra and geometry a 6 year old is supposed to be doing. This makes me want to just send my kid to private school. I want my kid to learn at school. I don’t want to send my kid to math class over the summer to test into AAP. |
Anonymous
We just do Khan Academy occasionally over the summer, and all 3 of my kids are in full-time AAP or have been found eligible for the program. I also don't think that you have to be working on above grade level material to get above the 90th percentile. You just have to have mastered the existing grade stuff, from what I've seen with my kids. That includes my kid who regularly scores below (just barely) the 90th percentile. |
Anonymous
ParentVue has the iready raw score and the percentile. Private school is certainly an option. But if you go to Kumon center, they'll tell you there are lots of kids doing math one grade or two grades above grade level. I've been to their Dec award ceremony, it's like going to Lake Wobegon, all kids are above average! |
Anonymous
I think you're misunderstanding the situation. iready is nationally normed, and kids doing supplemental math are barely a dent in the norming process. Kids who only have been taught the grade level materials but are very bright at math can get 99th percentile scores without outside supplementation. Math enrichment might help a kid who is not strong in math be ready for AAP math. It is not necessary for kids who are strong in math to do outside enrichment to be able to qualify for AAP. They are going to look holistically at all of the scores and packet materials. If the broader picture, based on NNAT, CogAT, iready, HOPE, work samples, and the parent questionnaire, shows a kid who is too weak at math for AAP, the kid won't get in. If the broader picture is that the kid is good enough at math to handle AAP, then a low score in any of the sections won't make or break the kid. |
Anonymous
Algebra (algebraic thinking) and geometry are woven throughout all levels of math education - they aren't just HS.claases. For a 6 yr old algebra is understanding basic expressions and patterns with numbers - so very simple work with equations. For geometry, it's very early work with shapes. You can look at the iReady site for a better understanding. Also, as PP said, outside math courses are absolutely not necessary to get into AAP - unless your student needs extra support to perform at a high level. Plenty of kids are accepted without ever having taken an enrichment class - in fact, that's true of all of the handful of AAP kids I know personally. |
Anonymous
A pp just said the iready tests up to two grade levels above in math. You are saying you can test 99th percentile with just what you learn in school. My child does not get much math instruction at all. There is way too much online learning. When I ask my daughter what she does during math, she says that they sort and play math games online. The teacher is not teaching them algebra and geometry. |
Anonymous
They do not mean HS algebra and geometry. If you're interested in what the test actually looks like and what it's measuring for your child, Id suggest visiting their site and learning about algebraic thinking and geometry in lower grades. Both are *absolutely* taught in FCPS - and any other school - because they're simply the basis of working with expressions and shapes. |
Anonymous
During the few days we did do math with our child, we looked at shapes. My daughter had no idea what a cylinder or cone was. It was pretty easy to teach her. She also had no concept of even or odd. Once we told her, it clicked immediately and she understood. She is a capable and teachable student but she has to be actually taught. Her class is large with 26 students and one teacher. She is well behaved so I wonder how much attention she is actually receiving. I hear a lot of stories about boys being bad in her class and being sent to the principal. |
Anonymous
If she has a bad teacher and gets a low iReady this year, then has a great teacher and does better next year, she'll still potentially get into AAP. They really do look at the whole packet, they aren't just saying that. Try not to stress quite so hard. |
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I have heard from other parents that math instruction has changed since all this online learning. It may work for older kids but I think kids this age need to learn to write numbers and do math with paper and pencil. My kid was doing double and triple digit addition and never learned to carry a 1 for tens. It was rather upsetting. Can only see it getting worse with multiplication, long division, etc. |
Anonymous
Agree with the bolded; half of the "math" my DD had trouble with was just the vocabulary, as you describe and also things like being a little put off with three digit addition in first grade when they clearly didn't cover that in class. She comes away a little frustrated and thinking all the tests are "hard," because they are adaptive and bump her up to a higher level of math/reading. This actually dampened her enthusiasm for math. |
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Look at the VDOE standards for math by grade level. Search VDOE math standards, it’s all there.
The teacher probably isn’t going to teach what a cylinder is to your first grader if it’s not in the standards for first grade. I promise at some point kids in FCPS are taught what cylinders and cones are. |