Columbia Activism

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Those students were right about Vietnam. And the sit-ins that started there and spread to the rest of the country were pivotal in moving sentiment against involvement in Vietnam. When it was no longer tenable politically, the war was over.

Vietnam and Israel are not the same.

agree, more Cambodia/Gaza parallels.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So, how bad will Columbia be over the next few years do you think? DC gets into an Ivy and loves NYC. Yay! But now activists have a tent city and don't plan to move. I really don't care about what people protest about (please don't comment on the various sides of this issue) but I do care that DC has a grassy place to relax between classes and the ability to focus on studies. I heard that students couldn't even get on campus the other day without a huge hassle. That's not what I think about when I think of the college experience. So, do we give up the Ivy dream and commit someplace else? Thoughts?

My thought is you’re looking to see if you can ridicule students who are speaking up to oppose the killing of tens of thousands of civilians and hoping to get away with it by pretending your concern is about green space. Riverside Park is two blocks away.

[Anonymous]

If your kid really cares about "grassy places to relax between classes," they would not be considering colleges in Manhattan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Those students were right about Vietnam. And the sit-ins that started there and spread to the rest of the country were pivotal in moving sentiment against involvement in Vietnam. When it was no longer tenable politically, the war was over.

Vietnam and Israel are not the same.

agree, more Cambodia/Gaza parallels.

Yes. Listening to the Columbia protestors declare "We are all Hamas" and wishing a 10/7 every day on Jews reminds me of Pol Pot. Jews at Columbia - Americans - are now being told to go home for their own safety. The hatred espoused by the Columbia student protesters is rabid and blind and dangerous. Lots of ideological similarities to the Khmer Rouge.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yea go somewhere else.

Yea, it'll free up a seat for someone on wait-list and one who could care less about protests. Plenty of other places to study or relax in nyc.

I think you mean couldn't care less.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, how bad will Columbia be over the next few years do you think? DC gets into an Ivy and loves NYC. Yay! But now activists have a tent city and don't plan to move. I really don't care about what people protest about (please don't comment on the various sides of this issue) but I do care that DC has a grassy place to relax between classes and the ability to focus on studies. I heard that students couldn't even get on campus the other day without a huge hassle. That's not what I think about when I think of the college experience. So, do we give up the Ivy dream and commit someplace else? Thoughts?

We? Grassy place to relax? I think I hate you already, OP.

NP. I’m sure people like OP and myself don’t like you either. OP, I’d take it off the list.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Those students were right about Vietnam. And the sit-ins that started there and spread to the rest of the country were pivotal in moving sentiment against involvement in Vietnam. When it was no longer tenable politically, the war was over.

Vietnam and Israel are not the same.

agree, more Cambodia/Gaza parallels.

Yes. Listening to the Columbia protestors declare "We are all Hamas" and wishing a 10/7 every day on Jews reminds me of Pol Pot. Jews at Columbia - Americans - are now being told to go home for their own safety. The hatred espoused by the Columbia student protesters is rabid and blind and dangerous. Lots of ideological similarities to the Khmer Rouge.

+1

Those “students” are disgusting human beings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Those students were right about Vietnam. And the sit-ins that started there and spread to the rest of the country were pivotal in moving sentiment against involvement in Vietnam. When it was no longer tenable politically, the war was over.

Vietnam and Israel are not the same.

agree, more Cambodia/Gaza parallels.

Yes. Listening to the Columbia protestors declare "We are all Hamas" and wishing a 10/7 every day on Jews reminds me of Pol Pot. Jews at Columbia - Americans - are now being told to go home for their own safety. The hatred espoused by the Columbia student protesters is rabid and blind and dangerous. Lots of ideological similarities to the Khmer Rouge.

DP. Were you there? Were they actually chanting hateful, anti-semitic slogans? Or is this all from the rumor mill? The protesters at my kid's campus have been annoying and a little devious (disturbing their propaganda leaflet couched in admitted students day cover), but they said nothing hateful. They just want to draw attention to mass casualties and coerce the college to divest on investments that involve arming Israel. Vociferous and somewhat disruptive, but not hateful or espousing anything resembling attacking other people. That's what I see in the Columbia videos as well. They are focused on divestment. But, I can see how a loud large group could feel intimidating or threatening.

I worry about the political lobbyist posters coopting this board to advance an agenda.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Those students were right about Vietnam. And the sit-ins that started there and spread to the rest of the country were pivotal in moving sentiment against involvement in Vietnam. When it was no longer tenable politically, the war was over.

Vietnam and Israel are not the same.

agree, more Cambodia/Gaza parallels.

Yes. Listening to the Columbia protestors declare "We are all Hamas" and wishing a 10/7 every day on Jews reminds me of Pol Pot. Jews at Columbia - Americans - are now being told to go home for their own safety. The hatred espoused by the Columbia student protesters is rabid and blind and dangerous. Lots of ideological similarities to the Khmer Rouge.

When you say "jews are being told to go home", let's be clear that that was one rabbi's suggestion - and she's only associated with the college, not a faculty member.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Those students were right about Vietnam. And the sit-ins that started there and spread to the rest of the country were pivotal in moving sentiment against involvement in Vietnam. When it was no longer tenable politically, the war was over.

Vietnam and Israel are not the same.

agree, more Cambodia/Gaza parallels.

Yes. Listening to the Columbia protestors declare "We are all Hamas" and wishing a 10/7 every day on Jews reminds me of Pol Pot. Jews at Columbia - Americans - are now being told to go home for their own safety. The hatred espoused by the Columbia student protesters is rabid and blind and dangerous. Lots of ideological similarities to the Khmer Rouge.

DP. Were you there? Were they actually chanting hateful, anti-semitic slogans? Or is this all from the rumor mill? The protesters at my kid's campus have been annoying and a little devious (disturbing their propaganda leaflet couched in admitted students day cover), but they said nothing hateful. They just want to draw attention to mass casualties and coerce the college to divest on investments that involve arming Israel. Vociferous and somewhat disruptive, but not hateful or espousing anything resembling attacking other people. That's what I see in the Columbia videos as well. They are focused on divestment. But, I can see how a loud large group could feel intimidating or threatening.

I worry about the political lobbyist posters coopting this board to advance an agenda.

You can hear them chanting it on TV. Open your eyes and ears and stop parroting pro Hamas denialism.

[Anonymous]

It is a diverse school in a city, filled with idealistic and passionate students. If your DC doesn’t want that, go elsewhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Those students were right about Vietnam. And the sit-ins that started there and spread to the rest of the country were pivotal in moving sentiment against involvement in Vietnam. When it was no longer tenable politically, the war was over.

Vietnam and Israel are not the same.

agree, more Cambodia/Gaza parallels.

Yes. Listening to the Columbia protestors declare "We are all Hamas" and wishing a 10/7 every day on Jews reminds me of Pol Pot. Jews at Columbia - Americans - are now being told to go home for their own safety. The hatred espoused by the Columbia student protesters is rabid and blind and dangerous. Lots of ideological similarities to the Khmer Rouge.

DP. Were you there? Were they actually chanting hateful, anti-semitic slogans? Or is this all from the rumor mill? The protesters at my kid's campus have been annoying and a little devious (disturbing their propaganda leaflet couched in admitted students day cover), but they said nothing hateful. They just want to draw attention to mass casualties and coerce the college to divest on investments that involve arming Israel. Vociferous and somewhat disruptive, but not hateful or espousing anything resembling attacking other people. That's what I see in the Columbia videos as well. They are focused on divestment. But, I can see how a loud large group could feel intimidating or threatening.

I worry about the political lobbyist posters coopting this board to advance an agenda.

The video is all over the internet- do a google search. It’s horrific and disgusting behavior.

[Anonymous]

Could your kid reach out to current students to see how much the protesters disrupt campus life?

Protesters are on many campuses. I'm sure a little more robust on Columbia. I think, for the most part, the students are passionate about not supporting military actions that are killing thousands. That is an age-old student concern. But, the fact that the aggressing country was a victim of terrorism and is comprised of historically oppressed people makes it really complex, and students, in their passions, don't typically do complex well and don't realize that their protests come across as attacks to the Jewish community.

Hopefully the intensity and scale will ease up, but current students would give a good indication as to how this affects the college experience. If your kid doesn't know anyone, you could ask in a parent fb group.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Those students were right about Vietnam. And the sit-ins that started there and spread to the rest of the country were pivotal in moving sentiment against involvement in Vietnam. When it was no longer tenable politically, the war was over.

Vietnam and Israel are not the same.

agree, more Cambodia/Gaza parallels.

Yes. Listening to the Columbia protestors declare "We are all Hamas" and wishing a 10/7 every day on Jews reminds me of Pol Pot. Jews at Columbia - Americans - are now being told to go home for their own safety. The hatred espoused by the Columbia student protesters is rabid and blind and dangerous. Lots of ideological similarities to the Khmer Rouge.

DP. Were you there? Were they actually chanting hateful, anti-semitic slogans? Or is this all from the rumor mill? The protesters at my kid's campus have been annoying and a little devious (disturbing their propaganda leaflet couched in admitted students day cover), but they said nothing hateful. They just want to draw attention to mass casualties and coerce the college to divest on investments that involve arming Israel. Vociferous and somewhat disruptive, but not hateful or espousing anything resembling attacking other people. That's what I see in the Columbia videos as well. They are focused on divestment. But, I can see how a loud large group could feel intimidating or threatening.

I worry about the political lobbyist posters coopting this board to advance an agenda.

I guess you didn’t see the videos circulating where protestors are shouting for Jews to go back to Poland (where they were killed by Nazis). Unless you don’t consider that hateful?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Those students were right about Vietnam. And the sit-ins that started there and spread to the rest of the country were pivotal in moving sentiment against involvement in Vietnam. When it was no longer tenable politically, the war was over.

Vietnam and Israel are not the same.

agree, more Cambodia/Gaza parallels.

Yes. Listening to the Columbia protestors declare "We are all Hamas" and wishing a 10/7 every day on Jews reminds me of Pol Pot. Jews at Columbia - Americans - are now being told to go home for their own safety. The hatred espoused by the Columbia student protesters is rabid and blind and dangerous. Lots of ideological similarities to the Khmer Rouge.

+1

Those “students” are disgusting human beings.

They are putting what they’ve learned to good use by organizing and protesting.