China is raising a population that will outshine us
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And that’s why there is never any innovation coming from the United States. |
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Patriotism is the unifying force that fosters community and values.
And we lack that in the US. We’ve devolved to an assembly of silos…or tribes, and it’s not helping any of us. The melting pot only works when people melt…assimilating under a unified group. We can still celebrate diversity. But we aren’t doing ourselves any favors when our education system dumbs everything down to a lowest common denominator. Everyone needs to aim higher. I’m all for more investment in high quality schools. |
Anonymous
It’s funny because China and the CCP uses Tik Tok to stoke tribalism and acrimony here in the US, specifically for the purpose of creating disunity. But the little Chinese automotots doing jump rope tricks are neat! |
Anonymous
It’s often done by immigrants who received primary education and philosophical outlooks on life and community from abroad. |
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Republicans have made it so that spending money on real food is prissy liberal stuff, and that teaching them to think critically is bad. I think we should return to some of the rote memorization and classic education, but in order to do that, my fellow parents of the next generation are going to have to pry the devices from their children’s hands and deal with the boredom and tantrums. I do not think an authoritarian government is the one to emulate, but the GOP hates educators and education and would happily teach that early humans rode dinosaurs if that proved the Bible correct. |
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Yes we would. |
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| Chinese parents actually parent. |
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So how is a culture so uniformly praiseworthy also predicated on Uyghur genocide camps, massacring student protestors in Tiananmen Square, the widespread adulteration of food products with dangerous contaminants like melamine and cyanuric acid, wet markets, counterfeit medications, the downplaying and frank lying about the seriousness of COVID, etc.?
It seems like you are praising the very schooling that by government fiat is prohibited from looking at (or even mentioning) its own ongoing and recent atrocities. "Valuing community" in this context is possible when you can define some within the community as inhuman or without civil rights. the tight control of information and thought goes hand in hand with flagrant censorship. There are wonderful things about China, and they come hand in hand with terrible ones. When you praise one, you are accepting and praising the other, which naturally follows from the first. |
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So it's always been in other parts of the world incl China, school is a cornerstone of development.
I am Chinese and I can tell you that what you see has always been more or less. Chinese culture is very rooted in education. I know Americans are forever disparaging Chinese govt and I totally get why Democracy should be praised. But make no mistake - the Chinese culture is sophisticated and their govt is made up of intellectuals. We don't have idiots in govt like here in the US. Personally what's ironic is I have always felt American education is done more effectively in the sense that it focuses on independent thoughts and desires. So in China and other parts of the world it's easier and more norm to have a very effective educational system based on development but what you ultimately get is equality. I know here in the US, it's what many strive for but the most interesting thing about a place where there's all sorts of levels of education and behaviors is that desire is the only thing that shines. That desire and drive results in an excellence and result that often exceeds the high standards that you'll find as a norm. I know it's counter intuitive but that independence of behavior and about wanting to succeed and to be set up for success, even though fewer and harder, leads to a more dynamic result because the one thing you can't give to someone is that desire to succeed. You can teach discipline, academics, manners, what to do to be successful et al. But unless you want to be awesome, it just doesn't translate as effectively. I'm very much a product of this kind of upbringing in that all my parents' friends kids were set up for success but I'm the only one who has the money among them although my parents never subscribed to this traditional protocol. They really let me be me and to mess up grades, socially, etc. I learned my own lessons and I became what I wanted to become. I think that either too much American or Chinese ways is not good. Somewhere in the middle is prob best. I agree with you that the Chinese though are much much more inclined to offer a healthy developmental process for kids esp v American system but I'm just suggesting that when you reach adulthood, it's really less about what you learned than who you want to be that counts. Maybe the Scandinavians have it just right - being happy and healthy is all that really counts!!! 
I also believe that the way US is set up, it's almost impossible to duplicate the kind of development other countries have incl Chinese because in this system, we are a capitalist society and money has to do with everything. No way can you get everyone on board to learn the same ways nor have the same advantages in our society. |
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| What is it like to be a woman, gay person or African person in China? Or is it to woke/DEI to even ask that question? |
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Woke people only attack America on DEI issues and actually defend things such as the Uighur genocide because anything done by non-Western or non-white societies are fine since they are "oppressed" |
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How many millions died at the hands of American intervention in Indonesia, Vietnam, Iraq x2, Afghanistan, etc. But but but ‘murica was spreading freedom! Gotta crack a few eggs like the Massacre at Mai Lai to spread democracy! Gotta torture thousands of civilians by backing dictators like Pinochet, SAVAK in Iran, the killing squads in Indonesia if it means freedumz! What do they say about those in glass houses? |
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There are re-education camps to help cure them. |
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Kinda like the boarding schools Americans put Native Americans in? Or the camps Japanese were put into? |
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Hey, I wasn't on a Chinese forum talking about how sooooo much better the US education system is. It's not! It is currently pretty crappy and getting worse, and -- AND -- *I* can criticize it, and advocate for change, and (by the way) criticize what my country has done in other countries. On the other hand, I'm not having to reach back to the 1960s and 1970s to find things to criticize about China while I'm at it. Everything I've noted above has happened within the last 20 years, if not ongoing right now. Suck it up, glass house. This is on you. |