China is raising a population that will outshine us

[Anonymous]

China has been around a lot longer than the U.S., so of course they're more advanced in some areas. It's nothing to get your undies cinched up over.

[Anonymous]

Original point is not being addressed. Just a bunch of whining about past grievances.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is it like to be a woman, gay person or African person in China? Or is it to woke/DEI to even ask that question?

There are re-education camps to help cure them.

Kinda like the boarding schools Americans put Native Americans in? Or the camps Japanese were put into?

Yeah, those from back then. Kind of interesting how being able to criticize your own government without being silenced or put in a torture camp leads to improvements.

Wouldn't it be great if someone in China could post anything at all about these things that are going on right now? I am not going to praise an educational that forbids the accurate teaching of history, either in China or elsewhere (looking at Florida).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Original point is not being addressed. Just a bunch of whining about past grievances.

Past grievances? So tell me, what happens right now if a student asks a teacher in class about Tiananmen Square, or posts about it on their social media?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:China has been around a lot longer than the U.S., so of course they're more advanced in some areas. It's nothing to get your undies cinched up over.

Some areas, sure. And the atrocities are greater. Both are true, and it's okay to acknowledge both in the country where this forum is sited.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Original point is not being addressed. Just a bunch of whining about past grievances.

Original point was never made, and the post sounded whiny itself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Original point is not being addressed. Just a bunch of whining about past grievances.

Past grievances? So tell me, what happens right now if a student asks a teacher in class about Tiananmen Square, or posts about it on their social media?

You cover it, let the student make their own decision and then move on to the next topic.

YOU don't want anyone moving on to the next topic. So, we have a students graduating high school that can't complete 8th grade math, read at an 8th grade level with low levels of literacy, can't point out the South American continent on a map and need remedial tutoring in multiple areas before entering college.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Original point is not being addressed. Just a bunch of whining about past grievances.

Past grievances? So tell me, what happens right now if a student asks a teacher in class about Tiananmen Square, or posts about it on their social media?

You cover it, let the student make their own decision and then move on to the next topic.

YOU don't want anyone moving on to the next topic. So, we have a students graduating high school that can't complete 8th grade math, read at an 8th grade level with low levels of literacy, can't point out the South American continent on a map and need remedial tutoring in multiple areas before entering college.

China does, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Original point is not being addressed. Just a bunch of whining about past grievances.

Past grievances? So tell me, what happens right now if a student asks a teacher in class about Tiananmen Square, or posts about it on their social media?

You cover it, let the student make their own decision and then move on to the next topic.

YOU don't want anyone moving on to the next topic. So, we have a students graduating high school that can't complete 8th grade math, read at an 8th grade level with low levels of literacy, can't point out the South American continent on a map and need remedial tutoring in multiple areas before entering college.

As I said, I'm not here promoting the US as having some magnificent educational system -- in fact, the opposite. But you are campaigning for yours.

So once again, what happens if that child posts anything at all about Tiananmen Square on their social media, even just a memorial post on the anniversary?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Original point is not being addressed. Just a bunch of whining about past grievances.

Past grievances? So tell me, what happens right now if a student asks a teacher in class about Tiananmen Square, or posts about it on their social media?

You cover it, let the student make their own decision and then move on to the next topic.

Cover it? That's new.

https://time.com/5600385/tiananmen-june-4-1989-china-30th-anniversary-censorship/
‘I’ve Been Told Lies.’ Young Chinese Recall When They First Learned of Tiananmen

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Original point is not being addressed. Just a bunch of whining about past grievances.

Past grievances? So tell me, what happens right now if a student asks a teacher in class about Tiananmen Square, or posts about it on their social media?

You cover it, let the student make their own decision and then move on to the next topic.

YOU don't want anyone moving on to the next topic. So, we have a students graduating high school that can't complete 8th grade math, read at an 8th grade level with low levels of literacy, can't point out the South American continent on a map and need remedial tutoring in multiple areas before entering college.

As I said, I'm not here promoting the US as having some magnificent educational system -- in fact, the opposite. But you are campaigning for yours.

So once again, what happens if that child posts anything at all about Tiananmen Square on their social media, even just a memorial post on the anniversary?

I'm not Chinese. I'm a red blooded American living in Virginia. What I'm telling you is step one is admitting you have a problem and then tackling that problem with tough love.

I told you, you cover Tiananmen and move on. You can also cover FDR putting 110,000 Japanese-Americans in internment camps.

But we need our students to be able to FUNCTION in a society and perform on a daily basis. Social opinion can only get you so far. It doesn't manufacture goods, get product from point A to B, invent the next hardware/software platform, construct housing and fix/install plumbing and electrical when needed.

We're spending an ungodly amount on education compared to the rest of the world and turning out incompetence. Part of it is parenting and part of it is education and discipline.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Original point is not being addressed. Just a bunch of whining about past grievances.

Past grievances? So tell me, what happens right now if a student asks a teacher in class about Tiananmen Square, or posts about it on their social media?

You cover it, let the student make their own decision and then move on to the next topic.

YOU don't want anyone moving on to the next topic. So, we have a students graduating high school that can't complete 8th grade math, read at an 8th grade level with low levels of literacy, can't point out the South American continent on a map and need remedial tutoring in multiple areas before entering college.

As I said, I'm not here promoting the US as having some magnificent educational system -- in fact, the opposite. But you are campaigning for yours.

So once again, what happens if that child posts anything at all about Tiananmen Square on their social media, even just a memorial post on the anniversary?

I'm not Chinese. I'm a red blooded American living in Virginia. What I'm telling you is step one is admitting you have a problem and then tackling that problem with tough love.

I told you, you cover Tiananmen and move on. You can also cover FDR putting 110,000 Japanese-Americans in internment camps.

But we need our students to be able to FUNCTION in a society and perform on a daily basis. Social opinion can only get you so far. It doesn't manufacture goods, get product from point A to B, invent the next hardware/software platform, construct housing and fix/install plumbing and electrical when needed.

We're spending an ungodly amount on education compared to the rest of the world and turning out incompetence. Part of it is parenting and part of it is education and discipline.

Dp- sweetie, are you not understanding that in China they don’t cover it? They don’t move on, because they aren’t allowed to speak of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Original point is not being addressed. Just a bunch of whining about past grievances.

Past grievances? So tell me, what happens right now if a student asks a teacher in class about Tiananmen Square, or posts about it on their social media?

You cover it, let the student make their own decision and then move on to the next topic.

Cover it? That's new.

https://time.com/5600385/tiananmen-june-4-1989-china-30th-anniversary-censorship/
‘I’ve Been Told Lies.’ Young Chinese Recall When They First Learned of Tiananmen

Yeah. That was going to be my comment. The student would never ask in the first place. It never happened, it's not in any books or newspapers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Original point is not being addressed. Just a bunch of whining about past grievances.

Past grievances? So tell me, what happens right now if a student asks a teacher in class about Tiananmen Square, or posts about it on their social media?

You cover it, let the student make their own decision and then move on to the next topic.

YOU don't want anyone moving on to the next topic. So, we have a students graduating high school that can't complete 8th grade math, read at an 8th grade level with low levels of literacy, can't point out the South American continent on a map and need remedial tutoring in multiple areas before entering college.

As I said, I'm not here promoting the US as having some magnificent educational system -- in fact, the opposite. But you are campaigning for yours.

So once again, what happens if that child posts anything at all about Tiananmen Square on their social media, even just a memorial post on the anniversary?

I'm not Chinese. I'm a red blooded American living in Virginia. What I'm telling you is step one is admitting you have a problem and then tackling that problem with tough love.

I told you, you cover Tiananmen and move on. You can also cover FDR putting 110,000 Japanese-Americans in internment camps.

But we need our students to be able to FUNCTION in a society and perform on a daily basis. Social opinion can only get you so far. It doesn't manufacture goods, get product from point A to B, invent the next hardware/software platform, construct housing and fix/install plumbing and electrical when needed.

We're spending an ungodly amount on education compared to the rest of the world and turning out incompetence. Part of it is parenting and part of it is education and discipline.

Dp- sweetie, are you not understanding that in China they don’t cover it? They don’t move on, because they aren’t allowed to speak of it.

Sweetie, what you aren't understanding is they (Asia) can out perform you on just about any and every level, because they try. They're diligent and they haven't let their standards drop like we have. Same with Europe.

Meanwhile, you're telling us math is racist, we need more drag queen story hour, every child needs a trophy, and there should be no standardized testing to get into college (or even K-12 because someone's psyche might be damaged).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Original point is not being addressed. Just a bunch of whining about past grievances.

Past grievances? So tell me, what happens right now if a student asks a teacher in class about Tiananmen Square, or posts about it on their social media?

You cover it, let the student make their own decision and then move on to the next topic.

YOU don't want anyone moving on to the next topic. So, we have a students graduating high school that can't complete 8th grade math, read at an 8th grade level with low levels of literacy, can't point out the South American continent on a map and need remedial tutoring in multiple areas before entering college.

As I said, I'm not here promoting the US as having some magnificent educational system -- in fact, the opposite. But you are campaigning for yours.

So once again, what happens if that child posts anything at all about Tiananmen Square on their social media, even just a memorial post on the anniversary?

I'm not Chinese. I'm a red blooded American living in Virginia. What I'm telling you is step one is admitting you have a problem and then tackling that problem with tough love.

I told you, you cover Tiananmen and move on. You can also cover FDR putting 110,000 Japanese-Americans in internment camps.

But we need our students to be able to FUNCTION in a society and perform on a daily basis. Social opinion can only get you so far. It doesn't manufacture goods, get product from point A to B, invent the next hardware/software platform, construct housing and fix/install plumbing and electrical when needed.

We're spending an ungodly amount on education compared to the rest of the world and turning out incompetence. Part of it is parenting and part of it is education and discipline.

Dp- sweetie, are you not understanding that in China they don’t cover it? They don’t move on, because they aren’t allowed to speak of it.

Sweetie, what you aren't understanding is they (Asia) can out perform you on just about any and every level, because they try. They're diligent and they haven't let their standards drop like we have. Same with Europe.

Meanwhile, you're telling us math is racist, we need more drag queen story hour, every child needs a trophy, and there should be no standardized testing to get into college (or even K-12 because someone's psyche might be damaged).

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