Drugs in College

[Anonymous]

If he has any military or governmental aspirations, repeatedly hammer the SF-86 into his head. Over and over.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is probably a hot take here, but it always seems weird to me when people have not experimented with drugs at all. I think it is a normal thing to do. Drug use itself isn't necessarily bad if done in a safe environment. Addiction is horrendously bad, but everyone here has probably been out with friends recently, watching everyone sip wine, and thought nothing of it -- and alcohol ruins more lives than (other) drugs.

Drug use is bad because it is largely illegal and there is a lot of dirty money and deviance in the drug trade. I knew this as a kid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is probably a hot take here, but it always seems weird to me when people have not experimented with drugs at all. I think it is a normal thing to do. Drug use itself isn't necessarily bad if done in a safe environment. Addiction is horrendously bad, but everyone here has probably been out with friends recently, watching everyone sip wine, and thought nothing of it -- and alcohol ruins more lives than (other) drugs.

I almost failed by TS/SCI/Lifestyle poly over this one because I have never done drugs. Had to walk them through the whole ROTC military drug testing timeline for it to make sense.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Most parents need to remove blinders and face reality. Drugs ARE EVERYWHERE on college campuses. Pot is the least of it. Molly, Coke, Shrooms. The best you can do is create an open, safe-enough environment where your kid will tell you what he is doing, has done this past weekend, plans to do at the festival, etc. For example, I know my DC has done Pot, Molly, Shrooms, but refuses to do any cocaine and absolutely will not inject anything. DC's friends tell me what they are up to too. Those same friends don't tell their parents who are clueless. DC knows from our discussions that they can call me anytime, any hour, they can call 911 and get an ambulance anytime, meaning don't be afraid that I'll find out from the insurance statement, just go get medical help and always be safe. If you aren't having these conversations with your kid, your kid will definitely be the 9 in 10 who keep it from the parents.

You seem to be justifying that your kid and their friends are doing illegal drugs. You can't honestly believe that all 20,000 kids at a given college are doing drugs. They aren't. A large crowd of them, but not even half. Statistics say 44% for pot.

As if kids are going to be honest in any kind of survey that would result in reported stats.
Look, I want my kid (and their friends) to be safe. So I chose a stance of - rather than come in with any judgment on the topic that would scare them or shut them down, I let them talk, I express my concerns and viewpoints (no, I don't justify it, condone it, wtaf pp), and I tell them to watch out for each other, to be safe. If you want to live in the land of De Nile, and pretend that your prince or princess is pollyanna perfection, avoid the topic altogether. IDRC.

We don’t avoid talking about it. We talk about it quite honestly and openly. My brother is an addict. He started with innocent use and for years used recreationally, and then got into other more addictive drugs. I use him as a prime example as to why they should avoid drugs.

Good luck being “open.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most parents need to remove blinders and face reality. Drugs ARE EVERYWHERE on college campuses. Pot is the least of it. Molly, Coke, Shrooms. The best you can do is create an open, safe-enough environment where your kid will tell you what he is doing, has done this past weekend, plans to do at the festival, etc. For example, I know my DC has done Pot, Molly, Shrooms, but refuses to do any cocaine and absolutely will not inject anything. DC's friends tell me what they are up to too. Those same friends don't tell their parents who are clueless. DC knows from our discussions that they can call me anytime, any hour, they can call 911 and get an ambulance anytime, meaning don't be afraid that I'll find out from the insurance statement, just go get medical help and always be safe. If you aren't having these conversations with your kid, your kid will definitely be the 9 in 10 who keep it from the parents.

You seem to be justifying that your kid and their friends are doing illegal drugs. You can't honestly believe that all 20,000 kids at a given college are doing drugs. They aren't. A large crowd of them, but not even half. Statistics say 44% for pot.

As if kids are going to be honest in any kind of survey that would result in reported stats.
Look, I want my kid (and their friends) to be safe. So I chose a stance of - rather than come in with any judgment on the topic that would scare them or shut them down, I let them talk, I express my concerns and viewpoints (no, I don't justify it, condone it, wtaf pp), and I tell them to watch out for each other, to be safe. If you want to live in the land of De Nile, and pretend that your prince or princess is pollyanna perfection, avoid the topic altogether. IDRC.

We don’t avoid talking about it. We talk about it quite honestly and openly. My brother is an addict. He started with innocent use and for years used recreationally, and then got into other more addictive drugs. I use him as a prime example as to why they should avoid drugs.

Good luck being “open.”

Your brother's choices are not my kid's choices. But thanks for the kind well wishes for my young adult. DB.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is probably a hot take here, but it always seems weird to me when people have not experimented with drugs at all. I think it is a normal thing to do. Drug use itself isn't necessarily bad if done in a safe environment. Addiction is horrendously bad, but everyone here has probably been out with friends recently, watching everyone sip wine, and thought nothing of it -- and alcohol ruins more lives than (other) drugs.

I haven’t experimented with many drugs (just enough alcohol to get mildly buzzed). Maybe it makes me weird but I have a family history of alcoholism and I’m not interested in tempting fate. That being said, I don’t actually think there’s anything wrong with experimenting if you want to (alcohol, pot, or even sketchier drugs). A lot of my friends in college did with varying levels of enjoyment — no one I knew ended up with serious drug problems and the worst outcome was my friend who got roofied at a bar which sucks but has nothing to do with her also having tried pot one time. I think it’s important for kids to know to be careful and to have someone safe to reach out to if they get into trouble, though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most parents need to remove blinders and face reality. Drugs ARE EVERYWHERE on college campuses. Pot is the least of it. Molly, Coke, Shrooms. The best you can do is create an open, safe-enough environment where your kid will tell you what he is doing, has done this past weekend, plans to do at the festival, etc. For example, I know my DC has done Pot, Molly, Shrooms, but refuses to do any cocaine and absolutely will not inject anything. DC's friends tell me what they are up to too. Those same friends don't tell their parents who are clueless. DC knows from our discussions that they can call me anytime, any hour, they can call 911 and get an ambulance anytime, meaning don't be afraid that I'll find out from the insurance statement, just go get medical help and always be safe. If you aren't having these conversations with your kid, your kid will definitely be the 9 in 10 who keep it from the parents.

You seem to be justifying that your kid and their friends are doing illegal drugs. You can't honestly believe that all 20,000 kids at a given college are doing drugs. They aren't. A large crowd of them, but not even half. Statistics say 44% for pot.

As if kids are going to be honest in any kind of survey that would result in reported stats.
Look, I want my kid (and their friends) to be safe. So I chose a stance of - rather than come in with any judgment on the topic that would scare them or shut them down, I let them talk, I express my concerns and viewpoints (no, I don't justify it, condone it, wtaf pp), and I tell them to watch out for each other, to be safe. If you want to live in the land of De Nile, and pretend that your prince or princess is pollyanna perfection, avoid the topic altogether. IDRC.

We don’t avoid talking about it. We talk about it quite honestly and openly. My brother is an addict. He started with innocent use and for years used recreationally, and then got into other more addictive drugs. I use him as a prime example as to why they should avoid drugs.

Good luck being “open.”

Your brother's choices are not my kid's choices. But thanks for the kind well wishes for my young adult. DB.

Right “your kids are different.” 👍

[Anonymous]

why would you be shocked that a hs kid would smoke weed or vape? That seems super naive of you, don't you think?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most parents need to remove blinders and face reality. Drugs ARE EVERYWHERE on college campuses. Pot is the least of it. Molly, Coke, Shrooms. The best you can do is create an open, safe-enough environment where your kid will tell you what he is doing, has done this past weekend, plans to do at the festival, etc. For example, I know my DC has done Pot, Molly, Shrooms, but refuses to do any cocaine and absolutely will not inject anything. DC's friends tell me what they are up to too. Those same friends don't tell their parents who are clueless. DC knows from our discussions that they can call me anytime, any hour, they can call 911 and get an ambulance anytime, meaning don't be afraid that I'll find out from the insurance statement, just go get medical help and always be safe. If you aren't having these conversations with your kid, your kid will definitely be the 9 in 10 who keep it from the parents.

You seem to be justifying that your kid and their friends are doing illegal drugs. You can't honestly believe that all 20,000 kids at a given college are doing drugs. They aren't. A large crowd of them, but not even half. Statistics say 44% for pot.

As if kids are going to be honest in any kind of survey that would result in reported stats.
Look, I want my kid (and their friends) to be safe. So I chose a stance of - rather than come in with any judgment on the topic that would scare them or shut them down, I let them talk, I express my concerns and viewpoints (no, I don't justify it, condone it, wtaf pp), and I tell them to watch out for each other, to be safe. If you want to live in the land of De Nile, and pretend that your prince or princess is pollyanna perfection, avoid the topic altogether. IDRC.

We don’t avoid talking about it. We talk about it quite honestly and openly. My brother is an addict. He started with innocent use and for years used recreationally, and then got into other more addictive drugs. I use him as a prime example as to why they should avoid drugs.

Good luck being “open.”

Your brother's choices are not my kid's choices. But thanks for the kind well wishes for my young adult. DB.

Right “your kids are different.” 👍

I'm sorry you're trauma got triggered.
But um yes, ALL Humans Are Different.
Go take care of your brother.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is probably a hot take here, but it always seems weird to me when people have not experimented with drugs at all. I think it is a normal thing to do. Drug use itself isn't necessarily bad if done in a safe environment. Addiction is horrendously bad, but everyone here has probably been out with friends recently, watching everyone sip wine, and thought nothing of it -- and alcohol ruins more lives than (other) drugs.

I've never experimented with drugs. I've also never been drunk or buzzed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is probably a hot take here, but it always seems weird to me when people have not experimented with drugs at all. I think it is a normal thing to do. Drug use itself isn't necessarily bad if done in a safe environment. Addiction is horrendously bad, but everyone here has probably been out with friends recently, watching everyone sip wine, and thought nothing of it -- and alcohol ruins more lives than (other) drugs.

I've never experimented with drugs. I've also never been drunk or buzzed.

Congrats?? Then you clearly have nothing to add to this post. Move along

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is probably a hot take here, but it always seems weird to me when people have not experimented with drugs at all. I think it is a normal thing to do. Drug use itself isn't necessarily bad if done in a safe environment. Addiction is horrendously bad, but everyone here has probably been out with friends recently, watching everyone sip wine, and thought nothing of it -- and alcohol ruins more lives than (other) drugs.

Different people do different things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is probably a hot take here, but it always seems weird to me when people have not experimented with drugs at all. I think it is a normal thing to do. Drug use itself isn't necessarily bad if done in a safe environment. Addiction is horrendously bad, but everyone here has probably been out with friends recently, watching everyone sip wine, and thought nothing of it -- and alcohol ruins more lives than (other) drugs.

I almost failed by TS/SCI/Lifestyle poly over this one because I have never done drugs. Had to walk them through the whole ROTC military drug testing timeline for it to make sense.

My DC is going through this right now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is probably a hot take here, but it always seems weird to me when people have not experimented with drugs at all. I think it is a normal thing to do. Drug use itself isn't necessarily bad if done in a safe environment. Addiction is horrendously bad, but everyone here has probably been out with friends recently, watching everyone sip wine, and thought nothing of it -- and alcohol ruins more lives than (other) drugs.

I have never experimented with anything illegal. That’s my normal. None of my best friends have experimented to my knowledge. Don’t normalize this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is probably a hot take here, but it always seems weird to me when people have not experimented with drugs at all. I think it is a normal thing to do. Drug use itself isn't necessarily bad if done in a safe environment. Addiction is horrendously bad, but everyone here has probably been out with friends recently, watching everyone sip wine, and thought nothing of it -- and alcohol ruins more lives than (other) drugs.

I've never experimented with drugs. I've also never been drunk or buzzed.

Congrats?? Then you clearly have nothing to add to this post. Move along

Someone others said that it was weird if you’ve never experimented. That’s wasaaaay off-base. The pp is pointing that out. It absolutely contributes to the thread.

I feel for the OP.