Princeton legacy admissions data reported

[Anonymous]

... but if it's *really* 30% of a general pool of non-Ivy league or otherwise princeton material, that is substantial (and I will get my kid t oapply!)

[Anonymous]

The Princeton legacies also attend the feeder schools of course - it's not like the same kid with the same stats popping up out of nowhere would otherwise get in. The system is entirely rigged, but everyone knows that.

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Anonymous wrote:The Princeton legacies also attend the feeder schools of course - it's not like the same kid with the same stats popping up out of nowhere would otherwise get in. The system is entirely rigged, but everyone knows that.

This is what I am wondering - if I am a "normal sorta, for the real world or DCUM standards but not for Princeton" Princeton alum -- meaning UMC, but not an heiress, and my kid doesn't go to Andover or have a Nobel- and they wouldn't get in without the legacy status - what are the chances for a kid with very good scores and perfect grades (but who wouldn't othereise likely be princeton material) WITH the legacy status?

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Anonymous wrote:The Princeton legacies also attend the feeder schools of course - it's not like the same kid with the same stats popping up out of nowhere would otherwise get in. The system is entirely rigged, but everyone knows that.

This is what I am wondering - if I am a "normal sorta, for the real world or DCUM standards but not for Princeton" Princeton alum -- meaning UMC, but not an heiress, and my kid doesn't go to Andover or have a Nobel- and they wouldn't get in without the legacy status - what are the chances for a kid with very good scores and perfect grades (but who wouldn't othereise likely be princeton material) WITH the legacy status?

Not good.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Princeton legacies also attend the feeder schools of course - it's not like the same kid with the same stats popping up out of nowhere would otherwise get in. The system is entirely rigged, but everyone knows that.

This is what I am wondering - if I am a "normal sorta, for the real world or DCUM standards but not for Princeton" Princeton alum -- meaning UMC, but not an heiress, and my kid doesn't go to Andover or have a Nobel- and they wouldn't get in without the legacy status - what are the chances for a kid with very good scores and perfect grades (but who wouldn't othereise likely be princeton material) WITH the legacy status?

Not good.

Because?

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Anonymous wrote:30 percent of legacies who apply are admitted. That is amazing and ridiculous at the same time.

You have no idea how much Princeton parents typically push their kids. Add in a lot of money, every advantage in the world. I think what I read actually had grades and scores of legacy kids much higher than the average applicant and accepteed student

Or their kids are naturally smart because of genetics.

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Anonymous wrote:I think 30% of Princeton is legacy; however, only about 30 kids get an actual legacy bump (i.e., a tiebreaker between them and another student).

+1. My family knows too many legacies personally in the current freshman class for the number to be anywhere near 30.

OMG, it's not 30 percent. It's more like 10 percent.

Did you read the original post? Obviously this poster meant 30 students not 30 percent.

[Anonymous]

Yup. My friend’s kid got in last year. Legacy, wealthy white private school kid in NYC. I am sure he is smart but he actually didn’t even want to go to Princeton, wanted to go somewhere he deemed more fun. He’s there now anyway. Can he do the work? Probably, but I don’t think he stood out much compared to other applicants.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think 30% of Princeton is legacy; however, only about 30 kids get an actual legacy bump (i.e., a tiebreaker between them and another student).

+1. My family knows too many legacies personally in the current freshman class for the number to be anywhere near 30.

OMG, it's not 30 percent. It's more like 10 percent.

Did you read the original post? Obviously this poster meant 30 students not 30 percent.

If you read the document, it also says 70% of legacies are rejected so that means that of the legacies that apply about 30% are accepted. 30 of the legacies are accepted as a “tie breaker” between two equal candidates. In the past about 10% of the student body were legacies, unclear what the percentage would be now since they do not publish data.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Princeton legacies also attend the feeder schools of course - it's not like the same kid with the same stats popping up out of nowhere would otherwise get in. The system is entirely rigged, but everyone knows that.

This is what I am wondering - if I am a "normal sorta, for the real world or DCUM standards but not for Princeton" Princeton alum -- meaning UMC, but not an heiress, and my kid doesn't go to Andover or have a Nobel- and they wouldn't get in without the legacy status - what are the chances for a kid with very good scores and perfect grades (but who wouldn't othereise likely be princeton material) WITH the legacy status?

Not good.

Because?

The legacy pool is more competitive than the regular applicant pool, with higher stats. The Daily Princetonian did a survey of students which found this. A lot of legacies are from families that are resourced and heavily value education, and their applications reflect that.

If your family does not have a special relationship with the school there really is no special consideration. Apply RD, but I would be very careful about using an early slot for it.

[Anonymous]

At my dc private ( not well known) hs three students applied ea. one legacy, One double legacy and my dc. All three excellent grades and scores. My dc highly accomplished musician. Only one that got in.

[Anonymous]

My older child, a legacy, was also first in their class and had major national awards for a specialty the school favors—prior students with similar recognition had pretty much all been admitted. Our child was also admitted and would be included in the numbers as a legacy admit. But I am pretty sure kid would have gotten in regardless.

[Anonymous]

I'm on the other end of the spectrum. I was a FGLI kid who graduated from a commuter school and my teen is hopeful for HYPSM. I have zero problems with legacy admissions and understand the value in admitting otherwise qualified applicants with strong familial ties to the institution.

Donor kids, legacy, URM, athletic recruits...they all make sense to me and contribute to what makes these schools so desirable in the first place.

[Anonymous]

I'm anti-legacy. I went to an Ivy and I donate every year, but I don't think my kid should have an advantage just because I went to that school. If anything, I would want them to get in on their own merits.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a legacy kid who will apply to colleges and is interested in Princeton. Kid is "qualified" in that he has the grades and scores, but not in the super-amazing-top-.00001% sense "qualified." He would apply early if he had a real chance of getting in but I don't know if it makes sense to waste the slot. I wish this were more clear

Yeah, if only we all had a crystal ball telling us if we ED/REA somewhere it would definitely work or not work. You understand that the murkiness is how it is for everyone except recruited athletes where there are passed prereads and coach support really matters.