s/o If you just watched or rewatched The Sopranos, let's talk about the ending

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm still mad about it. I thought it was lazy writing.


Same.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He died with his wife and son. His daughter was spared bc she was late


Mob hit would not have been of wide and son. No way no how.


The real answer would be Tony is whacked and son witnessed and avenges his father /joins the mob. Meadow marries a mobster like her father , names her first son after Tony, mom somehow gets blamed for wanting to go to the diner

Generational curse begins again..
Anonymous
Tony died, since the sequence of camera shots indicated the black would have been from his point of view. Earlier in the series, Tony said you won't hear it (death) when it happens. So we heard nothing.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:He died with his wife and son. His daughter was spared bc she was late


+1. This is what makes sense. The hitman would have killed Carmela and AJ since they were witnesses.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm still mad about it. I thought it was lazy writing.


Same.


It actually was brilliant but you had to understand how the scene was set up to know what happened. Too subtle for such a huge tv audience so, instead of explaining it, they let people make up their own minds/endings.
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Anonymous wrote:Showrunner David Chase confirmed, a few years back, that Tony did die.


I know he said this and I don’t believe him. At the time he did not say that. I think he made it up because all of the complaints.

In the mafia you get whacked by your best friend. Not someone walking in a dinner. Tony would have spotted him.


Not true. Tony became a "made man" aka a soldier (remember the title of the finale was "Made in America") at age 22 when he murdered a made man. So the person who killed Tony became a made man. The cycle was completed.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I know David Chase said that Tony died, but as I interpret it, we died. The audience got whacked. Suddenly, brutally whacked with much left unsaid and unresolved. It's brilliant.


That is unlikely. The "fourth wall" was never breached during the whole series so it is doubtful they would use this technique at the ending.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Showrunner David Chase confirmed, a few years back, that Tony did die.


I know he said this and I don’t believe him. At the time he did not say that. I think he made it up because all of the complaints.

In the mafia you get whacked by your best friend. Not someone walking in a dinner. Tony would have spotted him.

Wasn’t it implied Tony was getting soft? Especially with all the therapy?
Anonymous
Of course Tony got assassinated.

It's been quite a while since I watched it, but a few episodes before the end Tony talks about dying and music playing. When the assassin walks in you hear music playing after fade to black just as Tony described. Would it really be necessary to show Tony getting wasted with graphic violence? Good grief, it was a good ending. It was 100% clear.
Anonymous
There was so much symbolism — the first frame of the last episode shows Tony in a coffin, not a bed, there are the six bells reflecting Catholic rights, the shady guy in the Members Only jacket (an allusion to a prior episode). Of course Tony died.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I thought it was brilliant. Interesting theory that the son & wife died, never thought about that! But I think it was limited to Tony.


It wouldn’t have been wife and kids. Code wouldn’t let someone kill them, just Tony.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He died with his wife and son. His daughter was spared bc she was late


+1. This is what makes sense. The hitman would have killed Carmela and AJ since they were witnesses.


No they wouldn’t have because there is no such thing as witnesses in the culture.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He died with his wife and son. His daughter was spared bc she was late


+1. This is what makes sense. The hitman would have killed Carmela and AJ since they were witnesses.


No they wouldn’t have because there is no such thing as witnesses in the culture.


They were killed.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Showrunner David Chase confirmed, a few years back, that Tony did die.


I know he said this and I don’t believe him. At the time he did not say that. I think he made it up because all of the complaints.

In the mafia you get whacked by your best friend. Not someone walking in a dinner. Tony would have spotted him.

Wasn’t it implied Tony was getting soft? Especially with all the therapy?

One of the overall themes of the show was that the therapy was making him a better mobster. Melfi realizes this in a few of the last episodes.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He died with his wife and son. His daughter was spared bc she was late


+1. This is what makes sense. The hitman would have killed Carmela and AJ since they were witnesses.


No they wouldn’t have because there is no such thing as witnesses in the culture.


They were killed.

Families are off the table in the mafia.
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