Taylor Lorenz interviews Chaya Raichik of LibzofTikTok

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I haven't paid much attention to Libs of TikTok. Can someone who knows more give a short summary of what the account is known for?

Whipping up anti-LGBTQ sentiments, primarily in small town America by doxxing LGBTQ individuals, particularly teachers/librarians/minors. Actively trying to ban books in schools and libraries. Inciting protests at drag shows, which have culminated in violent incidents (including the mass shooting in Colorado Springs and shooting of electricity infrastructure in Moore County, NC).

She’s a modern day Goebbels.

A Goebbels who can't, in an interview, coherently or rationally defend the vitriol and hate she is whipping up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I haven't paid much attention to Libs of TikTok. Can someone who knows more give a short summary of what the account is known for?

Whipping up anti-LGBTQ sentiments, primarily in small town America by doxxing LGBTQ individuals, particularly teachers/librarians/minors. Actively trying to ban books in schools and libraries. Inciting protests at drag shows, which have culminated in violent incidents (including the mass shooting in Colorado Springs and shooting of electricity infrastructure in Moore County, NC).

She’s a modern day Goebbels.

+1 Whichever schools she “highlights” get bomb threats for weeks afterwards. She has almost 3 million followers.

Even worse, thanks to people like Chaya, a trans student in Oklahoma was murdered. Chaya has blood on her grubby little hands.
https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-news/nex-benedict-death-oklahoma-lgbtq-community-mourns-rcna139800

Now, that is just a false claim.

Police released bodycam footage of the Oklahoma teen’s de*th.

A few things to note:

1. Her mom refers to her with a different name and she/her pronouns. Either Nex wasn’t nonbinary or the school was hiding that information from her parents.

2. Nex and her mom do not appear alarmed, distressed, or panicked. They seem calm, relaxed, and cheerful.

3. Nex doesn’t appear to have any noticeable bruises. The media claimed her head was smashed and dragged across the floor. Nex herself described the incident as just “scraps and bruises” in her texts. Yet she says here that they beat the sh*t out her and possibly that she blacked out. Which was it?

4. Media claims she was beat up for 2 minutes. In reality it lasted a few seconds.

5. It appears all the girls went into the bathroom together intentionally. Nex came prepared to start a fight by filling up her bottle to throw water at them. Nex was the first one to assault the girls.

6. It’s obvious the school dropped the ball on this by not notifying the police and the officer explains that they should have. The school needs to be held accountable.

7. Officer Thompson is a great officer. He is calm, collected, knowledgeable on the law, caring, well-spoken, and empathetic. He deserves to be commended.

Any death of a child is tragic. The death of Nex Benedict is no different but the media and trans activists cannot get away with the lies they’ve told.

They said this was long term bullying: Nex admits they didn’t know each other

Nex admits to committing assault first.

Nex admits to throwing one of these freshman girls into a paper towel dispenser before she was knocked out.

Owasso Police say that Nex's death was NOT the result of injuries from a fight.

The media, politicians and activists have been INSANELY irresponsible in their reporting. One state rep even blamed me and
@ChayaRaichik10
for her death. The lies need to stop. Now you have her own words to judge for yourself.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think Chaya is ridiculous and awful but objectively in that interview she comes across smarter and better prepared than Taylor. I am surprised you linked it, OP. It is Taylor who looks awful.

When Taylor asked Chaya why she felt trans people were "dangerous", Chaya could only respond with "it's a lie". If Chaya can't even defend her positions to basic questions, how is coming across as smarter or better prepared than Taylor?

I don’t know, that bit just felt like useless grandstanding responding to useless grandstanding. In contrast, Taylor’s lack of preparation with respect to the books was pretty bad. Tayor didn’t know them, hadn’t looked at them, and came across as wildly unprepared.

So I think Chaya was not that great at handling the questions that looked overtly like ideological traps, but Taylor looked unprepared for actual facts and hard examples. Overall that means Taylor comes across a lot worse.

Obviously people can disagree but I don’t understand why liberal social media commentators are circulating this. It comes across as desperate and just promotes Chaya as sounding like the rational and fact-based one. To people outside of the extreme progressive online bubble who actually watch the interview, Chaya sounds level-headed and prepared with facts that Taylor couldn’t refute.

But, to be fair, I think a lot of the audience for the liberal social media commentators don’t expect their followers to actually watch the interview, so they are probably just building their own brands.

Yep. Spot on.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I haven't paid much attention to Libs of TikTok. Can someone who knows more give a short summary of what the account is known for?

Whipping up anti-LGBTQ sentiments, primarily in small town America by doxxing LGBTQ individuals, particularly teachers/librarians/minors. Actively trying to ban books in schools and libraries. Inciting protests at drag shows, which have culminated in violent incidents (including the mass shooting in Colorado Springs and shooting of electricity infrastructure in Moore County, NC).

Libs of TikTok used to be an anonymous account until Taylor Lorenz doxxed it to reveal the owner.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think Chaya is ridiculous and awful but objectively in that interview she comes across smarter and better prepared than Taylor. I am surprised you linked it, OP. It is Taylor who looks awful.

When Taylor asked Chaya why she felt trans people were "dangerous", Chaya could only respond with "it's a lie". If Chaya can't even defend her positions to basic questions, how is coming across as smarter or better prepared than Taylor?

I don’t know, that bit just felt like useless grandstanding responding to useless grandstanding. In contrast, Taylor’s lack of preparation with respect to the books was pretty bad. Tayor didn’t know them, hadn’t looked at them, and came across as wildly unprepared.

So I think Chaya was not that great at handling the questions that looked overtly like ideological traps, but Taylor looked unprepared for actual facts and hard examples. Overall that means Taylor comes across a lot worse.

Obviously people can disagree but I don’t understand why liberal social media commentators are circulating this. It comes across as desperate and just promotes Chaya as sounding like the rational and fact-based one. To people outside of the extreme progressive online bubble who actually watch the interview, Chaya sounds level-headed and prepared with facts that Taylor couldn’t refute.

But, to be fair, I think a lot of the audience for the liberal social media commentators don’t expect their followers to actually watch the interview, so they are probably just building their own brands.

I'm curious how you think asking someone to defend what they believe is considered "grandstanding"? After all, Chaya has made no secret of her hatred of the LGBTQ+ community, so she should have no problem providing clear and concise answers that demonstrate her point.

As for the book, Taylor was asking Chaya why she was so against these books and Chaya, and Chaya asked if she read these. I actually think Taylor gave a pretty nuanced response on why sex education is important, and Chaya's response was to lie and say that books like Gender Queer are being passed out to elementary school students. It's not.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I haven't paid much attention to Libs of TikTok. Can someone who knows more give a short summary of what the account is known for?

Mostly reposts tweets and other social media of liberals to try and make them look bad. Then people get angry at her for reposting this material, and she at one point was banned from Twitter for it.

She was banned because she was fomenting violence, not because she was making people look bad.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think Chaya is ridiculous and awful but objectively in that interview she comes across smarter and better prepared than Taylor. I am surprised you linked it, OP. It is Taylor who looks awful.

When Taylor asked Chaya why she felt trans people were "dangerous", Chaya could only respond with "it's a lie". If Chaya can't even defend her positions to basic questions, how is coming across as smarter or better prepared than Taylor?

I don’t know, that bit just felt like useless grandstanding responding to useless grandstanding. In contrast, Taylor’s lack of preparation with respect to the books was pretty bad. Tayor didn’t know them, hadn’t looked at them, and came across as wildly unprepared.

So I think Chaya was not that great at handling the questions that looked overtly like ideological traps, but Taylor looked unprepared for actual facts and hard examples. Overall that means Taylor comes across a lot worse.

Obviously people can disagree but I don’t understand why liberal social media commentators are circulating this. It comes across as desperate and just promotes Chaya as sounding like the rational and fact-based one. To people outside of the extreme progressive online bubble who actually watch the interview, Chaya sounds level-headed and prepared with facts that Taylor couldn’t refute.

But, to be fair, I think a lot of the audience for the liberal social media commentators don’t expect their followers to actually watch the interview, so they are probably just building their own brands.

I'm curious how you think asking someone to defend what they believe is considered "grandstanding"? After all, Chaya has made no secret of her hatred of the LGBTQ+ community, so she should have no problem providing clear and concise answers that demonstrate her point.

As for the book, Taylor was asking Chaya why she was so against these books and Chaya, and Chaya asked if she read these. I actually think Taylor gave a pretty nuanced response on why sex education is important, and Chaya's response was to lie and say that books like Gender Queer are being passed out to elementary school students. It's not.

With respect to your first point, you see it as asking someone to defend what they believe because you think that belief you’ve ascribed to Chaya is accepted fact. But to a viewer without hardened, pre-set opinions like you, Taylor’s question comes across as a “so, when did you stop beating your wife?” kind of question. Taylor didn’t do what good interviewers do, and establish a hard factual basis to show that it’s reasonable to ask the question. Taylor could have done that, with even some basic journalist work. She could have methodically used a lot of actual evidence (screenshots, clips videos of interviews of people who were shown on Chaya’s channels, etc.) and then asked Chaya that question.

But Taylor didn’t. And therefore, the question comes across as lazy, attacking interviewing, and therefore easily dismissible, which is exactly what Chaya did. Chaya’s response wasn’t sophisticated — I think it’s clear she’s had almost no media training — but to a viewer who comes to the interview without hardened opinions of Chaya, her instinctive response to a “when did you stop beating your wife” question comes across as genuine and honest. Nobody likes to be attacked by questions that are ideological grandstanding with no supporting evidence provided and Chaya’s lack of sophistication in her answer is something that general audiences relate to, not criticize.

On the second point, it was obvious that Taylor had never even looked at the books in question, while Chaya knew them in detail. That made Taylor look very unprepared. She did try to scramble to put together a response about why sex education is important, but again, she was weak on the facts because Chaya knew the books themselves much better.

All in all I find the idea that this interview was a win for Taylor and her “side” to be a symptom of the extreme bubble that exists online with the progressive left. A neutral observer would never classify this interview as a win for Taylor.

To be clear, I do not like Chaya or her channels at all. But I see this as neutral to Chaya at best and probably validates her and raises her profile. Taylor essentially just made Chaya look good.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I haven't paid much attention to Libs of TikTok. Can someone who knows more give a short summary of what the account is known for?

Mostly reposts tweets and other social media of liberals to try and make them look bad. Then people get angry at her for reposting this material, and she at one point was banned from Twitter for it.

She was banned because she was fomenting violence, not because she was making people look bad.

Is retweeting videos of mentally ill individuals now considered violence?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think Chaya is ridiculous and awful but objectively in that interview she comes across smarter and better prepared than Taylor. I am surprised you linked it, OP. It is Taylor who looks awful.

When Taylor asked Chaya why she felt trans people were "dangerous", Chaya could only respond with "it's a lie". If Chaya can't even defend her positions to basic questions, how is coming across as smarter or better prepared than Taylor?

The funny thing is that Taylor’s supporters would agree that the government endorsing falsehoods like 2+2=5 is dangerous.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Frankly, the interview made Taylor Lorenz appear uninformed and unprepared.

+1

I’m convinced the reason that people like Ari Drennan are posting about the interview is that they know people won’t actually watch it, and they’re scrambling to control the narrative. If you actually watch it rather than relying on what other people say about it, you see how uniformed and unprepared Taylor appears. The interview was an objectively win for Chaya, and I am very against her TikTok.

Cool story bro. That clip was all I needed to YET AGAIN confirm what I already knew - that Chaya is a brainless, hateful troll.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I haven't paid much attention to Libs of TikTok. Can someone who knows more give a short summary of what the account is known for?

Mostly reposts tweets and other social media of liberals to try and make them look bad. Then people get angry at her for reposting this material, and she at one point was banned from Twitter for it.

She was banned because she was fomenting violence, not because she was making people look bad.

Is retweeting videos of mentally ill individuals now considered violence?

It's violence when LibsOfTiktok's thousands of supporters doxx those people, send threatening messages, show up on their doorstep and make threats in person, stalk them, make false claims and try to SWAT them and so on.

[Anonymous]

I find it fascinating that people actually think the Libs of TikTok "founder" is anything but a paid troll. Her emergence reminds me so much of the Walk Away guy. He somehow emerged from obscurity with a fully formed "grassroots" movement.

It's called astroturfing people. Look it up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I haven't paid much attention to Libs of TikTok. Can someone who knows more give a short summary of what the account is known for?

Mostly reposts tweets and other social media of liberals to try and make them look bad. Then people get angry at her for reposting this material, and she at one point was banned from Twitter for it.

She was banned because she was fomenting violence, not because she was making people look bad.

She was simply retweeting the accounts and posts of liberals.
If there was any "violence" being fomented, then the liberals were doing it.

[Anonymous]

I haven't watched the interview but it's stunning that Chaya gave her an interview given that Taylor doxxed her.

I have previously heard Chaya interviewed and she sounded coherent and lucid and fairly normal.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I haven't paid much attention to Libs of TikTok. Can someone who knows more give a short summary of what the account is known for?

Mostly reposts tweets and other social media of liberals to try and make them look bad. Then people get angry at her for reposting this material, and she at one point was banned from Twitter for it.

She was banned because she was fomenting violence, not because she was making people look bad.

Is retweeting videos of mentally ill individuals now considered violence?

Yes. Even choosing not to tweet anything at all is violence (silence is violence). The only acceptable course of action is to dutifully chant the script your betters give you.