Proposed VA law will punish the victims of crime

[Anonymous]

I don’t understand why you would leave your unsecured weapon in a car. I’m ok with this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hope this law can be used to jail as many gun nutters as possible. I’m gleeful at the thought of them going to prison and getting sodomized in the shower every day because just had to have their penile substitute on display for the world to see. Better pack your soap-on-a-rope, ammosexuals! Big Bubba is waiting for you in the shower.

Reading is hard, gun owner does not go to jail. They receive a fine, which can be arbitrarily accessed, since they would be unable to prove a negative, gun was not stored in the open.

Gun owners should be responsible, but Virginia CHP holders are a law abiding group. So running into the post office or some other “sensitive” place requires them to leave their weapons somewhere (their car). Should be far less sensitive places to remove their need to leave a gun in a car.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope this law can be used to jail as many gun nutters as possible. I’m gleeful at the thought of them going to prison and getting sodomized in the shower every day because just had to have their penile substitute on display for the world to see. Better pack your soap-on-a-rope, ammosexuals! Big Bubba is waiting for you in the shower.

Reading is hard, gun owner does not go to jail. They receive a fine, which can be arbitrarily accessed, since they would be unable to prove a negative, gun was not stored in the open.

Gun owners should be responsible, but Virginia CHP holders are a law abiding group. So running into the post office or some other “sensitive” place requires them to leave their weapons somewhere (their car). Should be far less sensitive places to remove their need to leave a gun in a car.

Have you ever heard the phrase Going postal?

Leave your gun secured at home. You don't need it to safely drive to the post office. Can you even hear yourself?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope this law can be used to jail as many gun nutters as possible. I’m gleeful at the thought of them going to prison and getting sodomized in the shower every day because just had to have their penile substitute on display for the world to see. Better pack your soap-on-a-rope, ammosexuals! Big Bubba is waiting for you in the shower.

Reading is hard, gun owner does not go to jail. They receive a fine, which can be arbitrarily accessed, since they would be unable to prove a negative, gun was not stored in the open.

Gun owners should be responsible, but Virginia CHP holders are a law abiding group. So running into the post office or some other “sensitive” place requires them to leave their weapons somewhere (their car). Should be far less sensitive places to remove their need to leave a gun in a car.

If you leave your gun unsecured in a car you are not a law abiding citizen. It’s that simple.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope this law can be used to jail as many gun nutters as possible. I’m gleeful at the thought of them going to prison and getting sodomized in the shower every day because just had to have their penile substitute on display for the world to see. Better pack your soap-on-a-rope, ammosexuals! Big Bubba is waiting for you in the shower.

Reading is hard, gun owner does not go to jail. They receive a fine, which can be arbitrarily accessed, since they would be unable to prove a negative, gun was not stored in the open.

Gun owners should be responsible, but Virginia CHP holders are a law abiding group. So running into the post office or some other “sensitive” place requires them to leave their weapons somewhere (their car). Should be far less sensitive places to remove their need to leave a gun in a car.

Have you ever heard the phrase Going postal?

Leave your gun secured at home. You don't need it to safely drive to the post office. Can you even hear yourself?

The originated with several mass shootings by postal workers, not customers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope this law can be used to jail as many gun nutters as possible. I’m gleeful at the thought of them going to prison and getting sodomized in the shower every day because just had to have their penile substitute on display for the world to see. Better pack your soap-on-a-rope, ammosexuals! Big Bubba is waiting for you in the shower.

Reading is hard, gun owner does not go to jail. They receive a fine, which can be arbitrarily accessed, since they would be unable to prove a negative, gun was not stored in the open.

Gun owners should be responsible, but Virginia CHP holders are a law abiding group. So running into the post office or some other “sensitive” place requires them to leave their weapons somewhere (their car). Should be far less sensitive places to remove their need to leave a gun in a car.

If you leave your gun unsecured in a car you are not a law abiding citizen. It’s that simple.

A generation ago it was common for trucks to have gun racks in their back. Now leaving a gun in a locked and alarmed vehicle is considered negligent.

I guess its easier to blame legal owners than face the real changes of the last few decades.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope this law can be used to jail as many gun nutters as possible. I’m gleeful at the thought of them going to prison and getting sodomized in the shower every day because just had to have their penile substitute on display for the world to see. Better pack your soap-on-a-rope, ammosexuals! Big Bubba is waiting for you in the shower.

Reading is hard, gun owner does not go to jail. They receive a fine, which can be arbitrarily accessed, since they would be unable to prove a negative, gun was not stored in the open.

Gun owners should be responsible, but Virginia CHP holders are a law abiding group. So running into the post office or some other “sensitive” place requires them to leave their weapons somewhere (their car). Should be far less sensitive places to remove their need to leave a gun in a car.

Have you ever heard the phrase Going postal?

Leave your gun secured at home. You don't need it to safely drive to the post office. Can you even hear yourself?

Yes, "going postal" refers postal employees going on shooting sprees at work. All the more reason for customers to be able to protect themselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope this law can be used to jail as many gun nutters as possible. I’m gleeful at the thought of them going to prison and getting sodomized in the shower every day because just had to have their penile substitute on display for the world to see. Better pack your soap-on-a-rope, ammosexuals! Big Bubba is waiting for you in the shower.

Reading is hard, gun owner does not go to jail. They receive a fine, which can be arbitrarily accessed, since they would be unable to prove a negative, gun was not stored in the open.

Gun owners should be responsible, but Virginia CHP holders are a law abiding group. So running into the post office or some other “sensitive” place requires them to leave their weapons somewhere (their car). Should be far less sensitive places to remove their need to leave a gun in a car.

If you leave your gun unsecured in a car you are not a law abiding citizen. It’s that simple.

A generation ago it was common for trucks to have gun racks in their back. Now leaving a gun in a locked and alarmed vehicle is considered negligent.

I guess its easier to blame legal owners than face the real changes of the last few decades.

Yep, back in high school had dozens of vehicles both students and teachers with guns in gun racks in the parking lot. Never a shot fired. Guns are still the same, it is the crazy people running free that are causing the problems, not law abiding citizens.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope this law can be used to jail as many gun nutters as possible. I’m gleeful at the thought of them going to prison and getting sodomized in the shower every day because just had to have their penile substitute on display for the world to see. Better pack your soap-on-a-rope, ammosexuals! Big Bubba is waiting for you in the shower.

Reading is hard, gun owner does not go to jail. They receive a fine, which can be arbitrarily accessed, since they would be unable to prove a negative, gun was not stored in the open.

Gun owners should be responsible, but Virginia CHP holders are a law abiding group. So running into the post office or some other “sensitive” place requires them to leave their weapons somewhere (their car). Should be far less sensitive places to remove their need to leave a gun in a car.

If you leave your gun unsecured in a car you are not a law abiding citizen. It’s that simple.

A generation ago it was common for trucks to have gun racks in their back. Now leaving a gun in a locked and alarmed vehicle is considered negligent.

I guess its easier to blame legal owners than face the real changes of the last few decades.

Yep, back in high school had dozens of vehicles both students and teachers with guns in gun racks in the parking lot. Never a shot fired. Guns are still the same, it is the crazy people running free that are causing the problems, not law abiding citizens.

Cite?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope this law can be used to jail as many gun nutters as possible. I’m gleeful at the thought of them going to prison and getting sodomized in the shower every day because just had to have their penile substitute on display for the world to see. Better pack your soap-on-a-rope, ammosexuals! Big Bubba is waiting for you in the shower.

Reading is hard, gun owner does not go to jail. They receive a fine, which can be arbitrarily accessed, since they would be unable to prove a negative, gun was not stored in the open.

Gun owners should be responsible, but Virginia CHP holders are a law abiding group. So running into the post office or some other “sensitive” place requires them to leave their weapons somewhere (their car). Should be far less sensitive places to remove their need to leave a gun in a car.

If you leave your gun unsecured in a car you are not a law abiding citizen. It’s that simple.

A generation ago it was common for trucks to have gun racks in their back. Now leaving a gun in a locked and alarmed vehicle is considered negligent.

I guess its easier to blame legal owners than face the real changes of the last few decades.

Yep, back in high school had dozens of vehicles both students and teachers with guns in gun racks in the parking lot. Never a shot fired. Guns are still the same, it is the crazy people running free that are causing the problems, not law abiding citizens.

People used to beat their spouse and children but we don't allow that anymore. You don't need your 3 ARs on display while you go to CVS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope this law can be used to jail as many gun nutters as possible. I’m gleeful at the thought of them going to prison and getting sodomized in the shower every day because just had to have their penile substitute on display for the world to see. Better pack your soap-on-a-rope, ammosexuals! Big Bubba is waiting for you in the shower.

Reading is hard, gun owner does not go to jail. They receive a fine, which can be arbitrarily accessed, since they would be unable to prove a negative, gun was not stored in the open.

Gun owners should be responsible, but Virginia CHP holders are a law abiding group. So running into the post office or some other “sensitive” place requires them to leave their weapons somewhere (their car). Should be far less sensitive places to remove their need to leave a gun in a car.

If you leave your gun unsecured in a car you are not a law abiding citizen. It’s that simple.

A generation ago it was common for trucks to have gun racks in their back. Now leaving a gun in a locked and alarmed vehicle is considered negligent.

I guess its easier to blame legal owners than face the real changes of the last few decades.

Yep, back in high school had dozens of vehicles both students and teachers with guns in gun racks in the parking lot. Never a shot fired. Guns are still the same, it is the crazy people running free that are causing the problems, not law abiding citizens.

Cite?

I'm assuming you're either under 30 or grew up inside the beltway. Here's people talking about it:
https://www.reddit.com/r/southcarolina/comments/wknhzc/what_happened_to_the_truck_gun_racks/
https://www.thefirearmsforum.com/threads/where-did-all-the-gun-racks-go.233062/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope this law can be used to jail as many gun nutters as possible. I’m gleeful at the thought of them going to prison and getting sodomized in the shower every day because just had to have their penile substitute on display for the world to see. Better pack your soap-on-a-rope, ammosexuals! Big Bubba is waiting for you in the shower.

Reading is hard, gun owner does not go to jail. They receive a fine, which can be arbitrarily accessed, since they would be unable to prove a negative, gun was not stored in the open.

Gun owners should be responsible, but Virginia CHP holders are a law abiding group. So running into the post office or some other “sensitive” place requires them to leave their weapons somewhere (their car). Should be far less sensitive places to remove their need to leave a gun in a car.

If you leave your gun unsecured in a car you are not a law abiding citizen. It’s that simple.

What if the gun is locked inside a box/safe/container inside the car?

Because there ARE places that do not permit people who are otherwise carrying a gun legally (people with permits) to carry a gun inside. If people are required by law not to carry a gun in these places, then what are they supposed to do with their gun if they also cannot leave it in their car. That seems like a Catch-22 situation.

Is is creating situations like that the *intent* of the law? Because that doesn’t seem like legislating in good faith.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope this law can be used to jail as many gun nutters as possible. I’m gleeful at the thought of them going to prison and getting sodomized in the shower every day because just had to have their penile substitute on display for the world to see. Better pack your soap-on-a-rope, ammosexuals! Big Bubba is waiting for you in the shower.

Reading is hard, gun owner does not go to jail. They receive a fine, which can be arbitrarily accessed, since they would be unable to prove a negative, gun was not stored in the open.

Gun owners should be responsible, but Virginia CHP holders are a law abiding group. So running into the post office or some other “sensitive” place requires them to leave their weapons somewhere (their car). Should be far less sensitive places to remove their need to leave a gun in a car.

If you leave your gun unsecured in a car you are not a law abiding citizen. It’s that simple.

What if the gun is locked inside a box/safe/container inside the car?

Because there ARE places that do not permit people who are otherwise carrying a gun legally (people with permits) to carry a gun inside. If people are required by law not to carry a gun in these places, then what are they supposed to do with their gun if they also cannot leave it in their car. That seems like a Catch-22 situation.

Is is creating situations like that the *intent* of the law? Because that doesn’t seem like legislating in good faith.

Leave it at home? Why do you need it with you to run errands?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope this law can be used to jail as many gun nutters as possible. I’m gleeful at the thought of them going to prison and getting sodomized in the shower every day because just had to have their penile substitute on display for the world to see. Better pack your soap-on-a-rope, ammosexuals! Big Bubba is waiting for you in the shower.

Reading is hard, gun owner does not go to jail. They receive a fine, which can be arbitrarily accessed, since they would be unable to prove a negative, gun was not stored in the open.

Gun owners should be responsible, but Virginia CHP holders are a law abiding group. So running into the post office or some other “sensitive” place requires them to leave their weapons somewhere (their car). Should be far less sensitive places to remove their need to leave a gun in a car.

If you leave your gun unsecured in a car you are not a law abiding citizen. It’s that simple.

What if the gun is locked inside a box/safe/container inside the car?

Because there ARE places that do not permit people who are otherwise carrying a gun legally (people with permits) to carry a gun inside. If people are required by law not to carry a gun in these places, then what are they supposed to do with their gun if they also cannot leave it in their car. That seems like a Catch-22 situation.

Is is creating situations like that the *intent* of the law? Because that doesn’t seem like legislating in good faith.

Leave it at home? Why do you need it with you to run errands?

Because most prosecutors in the DMV practice catch a release even with violent criminals. Because when seconds matter the police are only minutes away. Because, I want to return home after running errands. Get the point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope this law can be used to jail as many gun nutters as possible. I’m gleeful at the thought of them going to prison and getting sodomized in the shower every day because just had to have their penile substitute on display for the world to see. Better pack your soap-on-a-rope, ammosexuals! Big Bubba is waiting for you in the shower.

Reading is hard, gun owner does not go to jail. They receive a fine, which can be arbitrarily accessed, since they would be unable to prove a negative, gun was not stored in the open.

Gun owners should be responsible, but Virginia CHP holders are a law abiding group. So running into the post office or some other “sensitive” place requires them to leave their weapons somewhere (their car). Should be far less sensitive places to remove their need to leave a gun in a car.

If you leave your gun unsecured in a car you are not a law abiding citizen. It’s that simple.

What if the gun is locked inside a box/safe/container inside the car?

Because there ARE places that do not permit people who are otherwise carrying a gun legally (people with permits) to carry a gun inside. If people are required by law not to carry a gun in these places, then what are they supposed to do with their gun if they also cannot leave it in their car. That seems like a Catch-22 situation.

Is is creating situations like that the *intent* of the law? Because that doesn’t seem like legislating in good faith.

There are plenty of aftermarket secure boxes for storing firearms in vehicles safely and securely. They attach to the vehicles body and are difficult to remove quickly in a parking.

A gun owner who used such a device and still had the firearm stolen would not be penalized by the proposed law. They took efforts to "secure" their firearm.