Crime statistics in schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What are the stats for the last 20 years? This is information is vital for the performance evaluation of the superintendents.

Comparing apples to oranges. It takes A LOT MORE to get suspended today then 10 years and definitely 20 years ago. 20 years ago, suspensions/expulsions were not held against administrators like that data is held against them today. Principals try to avoid suspensions at all costs.

20+ years ago I got suspended for going to my locker to pick up my math textbook during lunch so I could work on homework

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What are the stats for the last 20 years? This is information is vital for the performance evaluation of the superintendents.

Comparing apples to oranges. It takes A LOT MORE to get suspended today then 10 years and definitely 20 years ago. 20 years ago, suspensions/expulsions were not held against administrators like that data is held against them today. Principals try to avoid suspensions at all costs.

20+ years ago I got suspended for going to my locker to pick up my math textbook during lunch so I could work on homework

lol Oh my gosh. I remember an in-school suspension when I was in high school for saying something to the gym teacher and apparently, he didn't like my tone. I don't even remember what I said because it was so long ago. Believe me, I'm not an innocent angel, but I NEVER TALKED BACK TO TEACHERS because I knew I had to answer to my mother and the punishment would have been worse (somehow she didn't find out about this). I think I was in 6th in late 89 or 90 and my 6th grade math teacher would show us his paddle (with 6 really big holes for maximum hurt) when he got upset with us. I know that's more than 20 years ago, but pretty much if you pissed off the teacher, then that was that!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What are the stats for the last 20 years? This is information is vital for the performance evaluation of the superintendents.

Comparing apples to oranges. It takes A LOT MORE to get suspended today then 10 years and definitely 20 years ago. 20 years ago, suspensions/expulsions were not held against administrators like that data is held against them today. Principals try to avoid suspensions at all costs.

Good point. You do have to differentiate—like pre- and post-shutdown, pre- and post-emphasis on equity, etc.

[Anonymous]

You need to also look at the special programs in the schools. RM has the SESES program-for kids with emotional issues. Many are disengaged from schooling, and Rockville Town Center is a temptation to be doing other things during the day.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Another good way to get a sense of what is happening at schools is to look at the County's dispatch database and filter by type of location - there is a field for school.

What did you find when you did that?

You see what the reasons are for police to be dispatched to schools and which schools they go to. Lots of drug and weapon calls. There are a few middle schools that have a higher number of sexual assault/fondling calls than other schools which could either be because they believe victims or more kids are victimized. It's just interesting to see which schools you see over and over again.

I feel so left out. Our DCC MS doesn't even have vaping.

[Anonymous]

Also, it is often a single or a small number of students receiving multiple suspensions, skewing the data. And, yes, a principal has the discretion to issue suspensions or to ignore the problem for fear of a poor evaluation. This is one of the unintended consequences of the push for equity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Surprised by RM and BCC

Out of school suspensions and expulsions
Gaithersburg 146
Paint Branch 79
Richard Montgomery 47
Bethesda Chevy Chase 41
Quince Orchard 21
Watkins Mill 12
Blair 12
Churchill 10
Whitman 12
Wooton 8

If you divide these numbers by the total school population and multiply by 1000, you get a coefficient that mirrors school quality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Surprised by RM and BCC

Out of school suspensions and expulsions
Gaithersburg 146
Paint Branch 79
Richard Montgomery 47
Bethesda Chevy Chase 41
Quince Orchard 21
Watkins Mill 12
Blair 12
Churchill 10
Whitman 12
Wooton 8

If you divide these numbers by the total school population and multiply by 1000, you get a coefficient that mirrors school quality.

How do you define school quality?

How should we define school quality?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Surprised by RM and BCC

Out of school suspensions and expulsions
Gaithersburg 146
Paint Branch 79
Richard Montgomery 47
Bethesda Chevy Chase 41
Quince Orchard 21
Watkins Mill 12
Blair 12
Churchill 10
Whitman 12
Wooton 8

If you divide these numbers by the total school population and multiply by 1000, you get a coefficient that mirrors school quality.

How do you define school quality?

How should we define school quality?

Safety or non-stop behavioral issues detract from students' ability to focus and get an education.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Surprised by RM and BCC

Out of school suspensions and expulsions
Gaithersburg 146
Paint Branch 79
Richard Montgomery 47
Bethesda Chevy Chase 41
Quince Orchard 21
Watkins Mill 12
Blair 12
Churchill 10
Whitman 12
Wooton 8

I’m out of the loop. Why the heck does Julia West Middle have 126 incidents! Wow. What is going on there? What high schools do these kids go to?

Julius West goes to RM I think

And JWMS is probably the largest, or second largest MS in the county. So, look at the rate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Another good way to get a sense of what is happening at schools is to look at the County's dispatch database and filter by type of location - there is a field for school.

What did you find when you did that?

You see what the reasons are for police to be dispatched to schools and which schools they go to. Lots of drug and weapon calls. There are a few middle schools that have a higher number of sexual assault/fondling calls than other schools which could either be because they believe victims or more kids are victimized. It's just interesting to see which schools you see over and over again.

I feel so left out. Our DCC MS doesn't even have vaping.

haha.. you are oblivious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Surprised by RM and BCC

Out of school suspensions and expulsions
Gaithersburg 146
Paint Branch 79
Richard Montgomery 47
Bethesda Chevy Chase 41
Quince Orchard 21
Watkins Mill 12
Blair 12
Churchill 10
Whitman 12
Wooton 8

If you divide these numbers by the total school population and multiply by 1000, you get a coefficient that mirrors school quality.

Let's face it.. the list mostly corresponds to a list of schools by wealth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Surprised by RM and BCC

Out of school suspensions and expulsions
Gaithersburg 146
Paint Branch 79
Richard Montgomery 47
Bethesda Chevy Chase 41
Quince Orchard 21
Watkins Mill 12
Blair 12
Churchill 10
Whitman 12
Wooton 8

If you divide these numbers by the total school population and multiply by 1000, you get a coefficient that mirrors school quality.

Let's face it.. the list mostly corresponds to a list of schools by wealth.

That is not universally true. There obviously is a correlation between poverty and crime, but many of the W middle and high schools have alarming security and safety issues as well.

In lower-income schools, this manifests often as fighting. But in wealthier school populations, you need to watch out for the substance use more so.

But even then, weapons are popping up in those schools too. One of the recent students caught with a gun within MCPS was at Walter Johnson High School, a school in a very wealthy part of MoCo.