FCPS AAP "pool" cut-off scores

[Anonymous]

You ask. They will look up your kid's score. They will say it's too low. You will ask what the cut off is. All they will say is your kid's score is too low.

"So if you say my kid's score is too low, can you assure me that no student will get in with a lower score?"

They couldn't answer. That made them mad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You ask. They will look up your kid's score. They will say it's too low. You will ask what the cut off is. All they will say is your kid's score is too low.

"So if you say my kid's score is too low, can you assure me that no student will get in with a lower score?"

They couldn't answer. That made them mad.

Being in-pool does not mean that you are accepted into AAP or that there won’t be kids with lower scores that are accepted. Being in pool means that parents or Teachers don’t have to decide to refer a child. Referred kids have lower test scores and are accepted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You ask. They will look up your kid's score. They will say it's too low. You will ask what the cut off is. All they will say is your kid's score is too low.

"So if you say my kid's score is too low, can you assure me that no student will get in with a lower score?"

They couldn't answer. That made them mad.

This is a ridiculous premise. AAP selection is clearly laid out to not just be take the x highest cogat scores. They're mad because you're there being ridiculous.

Also, if this is about the pool - the pool is just a way to make sure that high scoring kids who weren't referred through other avenues don't get missed just because no one referred them. I think I saw the statistics on acceptances from pool compared to parent referred and the parent referred had higher percentage than the pool. But I'm not sure how it accounted for kids who were both.

Which makes some sense, because they've made pretty clear that after meeting a threshold of "high cogat" the teacher ratings and ratings of work samples is more important. And the kids who teachers would rate highest have probably hinted to parents to refer them

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You ask. They will look up your kid's score. They will say it's too low. You will ask what the cut off is. All they will say is your kid's score is too low.

"So if you say my kid's score is too low, can you assure me that no student will get in with a lower score?"

They couldn't answer. That made them mad.[/quote

Good grief, you're a broken record. I've read your complaint on multiple threads at this point and it is no less ridiculous now. You clearly don't understand how AAP works.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You ask. They will look up your kid's score. They will say it's too low. You will ask what the cut off is. All they will say is your kid's score is too low.

"So if you say my kid's score is too low, can you assure me that no student will get in with a lower score?"

They couldn't answer. That made them mad.[/quote

Good grief, you're a broken record. I've read your complaint on multiple threads at this point and it is no less ridiculous now. You clearly don't understand how AAP works.

I think it’s funny that parents pretend that parent referring is any less subjective than being in-pool. “Accept my child because I think they’re gifted.” I get that all students end up with the same eval criteria in terms of scores, samples, and HOPE, but it’s silly that a parent referral for differentiated learning carries much weight. Conflict of interest…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I also heard it’s top 10% of the school and your school aart teacher knows the cut off score. In pool doesn’t guarantee acceptance of full time AAP though. If you parent referred and your child’s not in pool and doesn’t make into full time AAP ( but will be in advanced math automatically) you can appeal since your child already have a file in central AART office. If you didn’t parent refer and your child wasn’t in pool and doesn’t get in to full time AAP, you can’t appeal the same year since they don’t have a file of your child already. If your child’s school is not an AAP center, you can ask for principal place for local aap until 6th grade if your child’s qualified.

Sorry for my mistake and thanks for another poster correcting me about the automatically placed into advanced math part, I was trying to say if a child is in pool but not accepted into full time AAP, the child will be placed to advanced math automatically because he/she was in pool.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I also heard it’s top 10% of the school and your school aart teacher knows the cut off score. In pool doesn’t guarantee acceptance of full time AAP though. If you parent referred and your child’s not in pool and doesn’t make into full time AAP ( but will be in advanced math automatically) you can appeal since your child already have a file in central AART office. If you didn’t parent refer and your child wasn’t in pool and doesn’t get in to full time AAP, you can’t appeal the same year since they don’t have a file of your child already. If your child’s school is not an AAP center, you can ask for principal place for local aap until 6th grade if your child’s qualified.

Sorry for my mistake and thanks for another poster correcting me about the automatically placed into advanced math part, I was trying to say if a child is in pool but not accepted into full time AAP, the child will be placed to advanced math automatically because he/she was in pool.

No, in pool does not mean kids are automatically placed in Advanced Math. There are kids who end up in pool because they have strong verbal scores but lower quant scores. Advanced math is determined at each school by iReady scores, in class performance, and SOL scores.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I also heard it’s top 10% of the school and your school aart teacher knows the cut off score. In pool doesn’t guarantee acceptance of full time AAP though. If you parent referred and your child’s not in pool and doesn’t make into full time AAP ( but will be in advanced math automatically) you can appeal since your child already have a file in central AART office. If you didn’t parent refer and your child wasn’t in pool and doesn’t get in to full time AAP, you can’t appeal the same year since they don’t have a file of your child already. If your child’s school is not an AAP center, you can ask for principal place for local aap until 6th grade if your child’s qualified.

Sorry for my mistake and thanks for another poster correcting me about the automatically placed into advanced math part, I was trying to say if a child is in pool but not accepted into full time AAP, the child will be placed to advanced math automatically because he/she was in pool.

No, in pool does not mean kids are automatically placed in Advanced Math. There are kids who end up in pool because they have strong verbal scores but lower quant scores. Advanced math is determined at each school by iReady scores, in class performance, and SOL scores.

Maybe it’s school dependent, at least at our school, confirmed by a parent whose kid’s at the same school of mine.

[Anonymous]

Yawn…

[Anonymous]

My first kid was in pool, didn't end up getting in (got in a subsequent year but was principal placed in the classroom starting in third grade).

My second kid was not in pool and ended up getting in.

As long as you parent referred, you are good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I also heard it’s top 10% of the school and your school aart teacher knows the cut off score. In pool doesn’t guarantee acceptance of full time AAP though. If you parent referred and your child’s not in pool and doesn’t make into full time AAP ( but will be in advanced math automatically) you can appeal since your child already have a file in central AART office. If you didn’t parent refer and your child wasn’t in pool and doesn’t get in to full time AAP, you can’t appeal the same year since they don’t have a file of your child already. If your child’s school is not an AAP center, you can ask for principal place for local aap until 6th grade if your child’s qualified.

Sorry for my mistake and thanks for another poster correcting me about the automatically placed into advanced math part, I was trying to say if a child is in pool but not accepted into full time AAP, the child will be placed to advanced math automatically because he/she was in pool.

Not all schools have advanced math in 3rd grade. Our base school (an immersion school) doesn’t start advanced math until 6th grade and doesn’t have a LLIV…...which is why we referred for AAP.