Cuts for both Jr Champs & 14 & U

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It sounds like they changed the meet and the swimmers have to go to JOs or Sr champs only. That’s a shame— when my daughter was 13 she did distance events at Jr champs and that worked out really well for her.

A couple of the Jr Champ cuts are easier than 14 & U cuts so I assume a swimmer could swim both if they don’t make a 14 & U cut but make the Jr Champs cut.

[Anonymous]

In my kids’ club, 14 and under swimmers go to JOs. Junior and Sr Champs are for older kids.

[Anonymous]

Hmm, Junior champs psych sheet just came out, and there's plenty of under 14s going. I saw one 11 year old? I guess that language is open to interpretation or coaches just ignore it because tradition.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hmm, Junior champs psych sheet just came out, and there's plenty of under 14s going. I saw one 11 year old? I guess that language is open to interpretation or coaches just ignore it because tradition.

Which language? Junior champs should be open to anyone with time standards, following entry rules.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In my kids’ club, 14 and under swimmers go to JOs. Junior and Sr Champs are for older kids.

Junior Champs are also for parents. Note a couple of entries in the 40+ category.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hmm, Junior champs psych sheet just came out, and there's plenty of under 14s going. I saw one 11 year old? I guess that language is open to interpretation or coaches just ignore it because tradition.

Which language? Junior champs should be open to anyone with time standards, following entry rules.

Swimmers must have equaled or bettered the applicable Qualifying Times listed and have not achieved a faster time than the 2024 SC Senior Champ QT or the 2024 PVS JO 13-14 Qualifying Time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hmm, Junior champs psych sheet just came out, and there's plenty of under 14s going. I saw one 11 year old? I guess that language is open to interpretation or coaches just ignore it because tradition.

Which language? Junior champs should be open to anyone with time standards, following entry rules.

Swimmers must have equaled or bettered the applicable Qualifying Times listed and have not achieved a faster time than the 2024 SC Senior Champ QT or the 2024 PVS JO 13-14 Qualifying Time.

This is just saying that you can’t swim an event at Junior Champs where you have the (faster) 13-14 JO cut. It doesn’t prevent kids from swimming different events at both meets. The Junior Champs psych sheet shows that the events aren’t just NST, they have a range, so you have to be faster than a certain time but also can’t be faster than the 13-14 JO cut.

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Anonymous wrote:Hmm, Junior champs psych sheet just came out, and there's plenty of under 14s going. I saw one 11 year old? I guess that language is open to interpretation or coaches just ignore it because tradition.

Which language? Junior champs should be open to anyone with time standards, following entry rules.

Swimmers must have equaled or bettered the applicable Qualifying Times listed and have not achieved a faster time than the 2024 SC Senior Champ QT or the 2024 PVS JO 13-14 Qualifying Time.

This is just saying that you can’t swim an event at Junior Champs where you have the (faster) 13-14 JO cut. It doesn’t prevent kids from swimming different events at both meets. The Junior Champs psych sheet shows that the events aren’t just NST, they have a range, so you have to be faster than a certain time but also can’t be faster than the 13-14 JO cut.

There are a lot of kids swimming who have the faster 13-14 JO cut. Look at the distance events, for example.

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Anonymous wrote:Hmm, Junior champs psych sheet just came out, and there's plenty of under 14s going. I saw one 11 year old? I guess that language is open to interpretation or coaches just ignore it because tradition.

Which language? Junior champs should be open to anyone with time standards, following entry rules.

Swimmers must have equaled or bettered the applicable Qualifying Times listed and have not achieved a faster time than the 2024 SC Senior Champ QT or the 2024 PVS JO 13-14 Qualifying Time.

This is just saying that you can’t swim an event at Junior Champs where you have the (faster) 13-14 JO cut. It doesn’t prevent kids from swimming different events at both meets. The Junior Champs psych sheet shows that the events aren’t just NST, they have a range, so you have to be faster than a certain time but also can’t be faster than the 13-14 JO cut.

There are a lot of kids swimming who have the faster 13-14 JO cut. Look at the distance events, for example.

I looked at the women’s 1650 which has some 13-14s in it and none of them have a seed time faster than the 13-14 JO cut. On the psych sheet for Junior champs it has the time range you must be between for each event, you can’t swim in the women’s 1650 with a seed time faster than 19:49.99, which is the 13-14 JO cut. I don’t see what you’re talking about.

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Anonymous wrote:Hmm, Junior champs psych sheet just came out, and there's plenty of under 14s going. I saw one 11 year old? I guess that language is open to interpretation or coaches just ignore it because tradition.

Which language? Junior champs should be open to anyone with time standards, following entry rules.

Swimmers must have equaled or bettered the applicable Qualifying Times listed and have not achieved a faster time than the 2024 SC Senior Champ QT or the 2024 PVS JO 13-14 Qualifying Time.

This is just saying that you can’t swim an event at Junior Champs where you have the (faster) 13-14 JO cut. It doesn’t prevent kids from swimming different events at both meets. The Junior Champs psych sheet shows that the events aren’t just NST, they have a range, so you have to be faster than a certain time but also can’t be faster than the 13-14 JO cut.

There are a lot of kids swimming who have the faster 13-14 JO cut. Look at the distance events, for example.

I looked at the women’s 1650 which has some 13-14s in it and none of them have a seed time faster than the 13-14 JO cut. On the psych sheet for Junior champs it has the time range you must be between for each event, you can’t swim in the women’s 1650 with a seed time faster than 19:49.99, which is the 13-14 JO cut. I don’t see what you’re talking about.

The 13-14 mile JO cut is 19:49.99. Every one of the registered swimmers 14 and under in that event are seeded with a time faster than 19:49.