UVA rush

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Anonymous wrote:My kid just got dropped from her top two choices. I think it is House Tours day today. She is not thrilled. I told her to go through the motions. She might end up clicking with another house. Personally, I would have preferred she never rush, yet here I am still encouraging her to continue with the process. I guess this will be one of many growing experiences in life, and it won’t be the end of she does not end up joining a sorority.

Please tell her to continue. Looking back the houses that seemed the closest were not the top few. Sometimes things work out when you least expect.

Just curious. Why do you care whether or not PPs daughter joins a sorority?

I’m beginning to think the whole thing is a big money scam, with some of these groups desperate for any members that can pay.

This is an interesting take. I also have no idea why some parents would be in favor of greek life. It seems really obnoxious.

[Anonymous]

My kid says a some of the “top” sororities are filled with NE boarding school students. If that is true, I guess my kid will not ne accepted by that one for sure. She is a URM from a lower ranked fcps high school. Looks like elitism is alive and well at UVA. Yeah, I shouldn’t really be surprised. It’s just sad my kid has to face this is how things still work in certain circles. I tried to warn her, so would temper her expectations. I still hope she can either match with a house she likes or drop the whole thing, and just move on with college life.

I think one of her major concerns is not being able to attend some of the frat parties. Oh well, she will be just fine! Maybe she will finally listen to me and try out for the ultimate frisbee team!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid says a some of the “top” sororities are filled with NE boarding school students. If that is true, I guess my kid will not ne accepted by that one for sure. She is a URM from a lower ranked fcps high school. Looks like elitism is alive and well at UVA. Yeah, I shouldn’t really be surprised. It’s just sad my kid has to face this is how things still work in certain circles. I tried to warn her, so would temper her expectations. I still hope she can either match with a house she likes or drop the whole thing, and just move on with college life.

I think one of her major concerns is not being able to attend some of the frat parties. Oh well, she will be just fine! Maybe she will finally listen to me and try out for the ultimate frisbee team!

Trust me, those "higher tier" frats are not places you want her! I may be an old curmudgeon but the amount of drug use I hear about in the greek system, especially those houses, would make you want her to stay far, far away. and I'm not talking about weed, which is everywhere.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My kid says a some of the “top” sororities are filled with NE boarding school students. If that is true, I guess my kid will not ne accepted by that one for sure. She is a URM from a lower ranked fcps high school. Looks like elitism is alive and well at UVA. Yeah, I shouldn’t really be surprised. It’s just sad my kid has to face this is how things still work in certain circles. I tried to warn her, so would temper her expectations. I still hope she can either match with a house she likes or drop the whole thing, and just move on with college life.

I think one of her major concerns is not being able to attend some of the frat parties. Oh well, she will be just fine! Maybe she will finally listen to me and try out for the ultimate frisbee team!

Trust me, those "higher tier" frats are not places you want her! I may be an old curmudgeon but the amount of drug use I hear about in the greek system, especially those houses, would make you want her to stay far, far away. and I'm not talking about weed, which is everywhere.

UVA specifically or just the Greek system in general?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Get used to it. There are always people who won’t say publicly but they think of the Greek houses in tiers. I believe there’s a website that even ranks them by school.

From my uva days, the top sororities were kkg, tri delt, theta, and pi phi. Doubt it’s changed much. Fraternities had a similar pecking order.

How (and why) do you remember that!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Get used to it. There are always people who won’t say publicly but they think of the Greek houses in tiers. I believe there’s a website that even ranks them by school.

From my uva days, the top sororities were kkg, tri delt, theta, and pi phi. Doubt it’s changed much. Fraternities had a similar pecking order.

How (and why) do you remember that!

I’m pretty sure anyone who went to a Greek dominated school would remember these details. I certainly remember that that top sororities at wake forest in 1999 were KKG, Chi O and Pi Phi. It’s not an insignificant detail of college if you go to a big greek school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid says a some of the “top” sororities are filled with NE boarding school students. If that is true, I guess my kid will not ne accepted by that one for sure. She is a URM from a lower ranked fcps high school. Looks like elitism is alive and well at UVA. Yeah, I shouldn’t really be surprised. It’s just sad my kid has to face this is how things still work in certain circles. I tried to warn her, so would temper her expectations. I still hope she can either match with a house she likes or drop the whole thing, and just move on with college life.

I think one of her major concerns is not being able to attend some of the frat parties. Oh well, she will be just fine! Maybe she will finally listen to me and try out for the ultimate frisbee team!

Trust me, those "higher tier" frats are not places you want her! I may be an old curmudgeon but the amount of drug use I hear about in the greek system, especially those houses, would make you want her to stay far, far away. and I'm not talking about weed, which is everywhere.

UVA specifically or just the Greek system in general?

UVA Greek system. I’m generally a fan and was Greek but it’s bad, really bad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hi is anyone with a kid at UVA following the parent posts on FB? I’m shocked that parents use terms like “top tier” frat and how they can’t believe their kid did not get into a top frat. It reminds me of when I was in high school 30 years ago and there were the popular kids. Anyway I just want to tell them that my kid who never had many friends is loving rush and when I asked him about these top tier frats his response is that the top tier is the one that’s right for you.

I am a little surprised parents would actually come right out and use those terms but tiering is absolutely a thing. The girls know. Everyone knows. But you aren’t really supposed to talk about it.

My DD is in a mid-tier sorority there. She says when she was rushing there was one house where the girls took PNM’s coats and one girl had the job of looking up the value online. PNMs are also carefully scrutinized for how many insta followers they have.

And yes, it’s very much like middle or high schools.

The lower tier sororities will be the one still doing COB after Rush ends because they didn’t meet quota.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Get used to it. There are always people who won’t say publicly but they think of the Greek houses in tiers. I believe there’s a website that even ranks them by school.

From my uva days, the top sororities were kkg, tri delt, theta, and pi phi. Doubt it’s changed much. Fraternities had a similar pecking order.

How (and why) do you remember that!

It’s the same today! And to the PP, I also remember the ranks at my college 30 years ago. Course we only and five sororities and nine frats.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hi is anyone with a kid at UVA following the parent posts on FB? I’m shocked that parents use terms like “top tier” frat and how they can’t believe their kid did not get into a top frat. It reminds me of when I was in high school 30 years ago and there were the popular kids. Anyway I just want to tell them that my kid who never had many friends is loving rush and when I asked him about these top tier frats his response is that the top tier is the one that’s right for you.

I am a little surprised parents would actually come right out and use those terms but tiering is absolutely a thing. The girls know. Everyone knows. But you aren’t really supposed to talk about it.

My DD is in a mid-tier sorority there. She says when she was rushing there was one house where the girls took PNM’s coats and one girl had the job of looking up the value online. PNMs are also carefully scrutinized for how many insta followers they have.

And yes, it’s very much like middle or high schools.

The lower tier sororities will be the one still doing COB after Rush ends because they didn’t meet quota.

The last thing you said is not really true. They may have made quota but get a certain amount of quota additions base on their total size. Many sororities will do COB, just not the top 6 or so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Get used to it. There are always people who won’t say publicly but they think of the Greek houses in tiers. I believe there’s a website that even ranks them by school.

From my uva days, the top sororities were kkg, tri delt, theta, and pi phi. Doubt it’s changed much. Fraternities had a similar pecking order.

How (and why) do you remember that!

I’m pretty sure anyone who went to a Greek dominated school would remember these details. I certainly remember that that top sororities at wake forest in 1999 were KKG, Chi O and Pi Phi. It’s not an insignificant detail of college if you go to a big greek school.

It’s interesting because Chi O is lowest tier at both UVa and VT

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hi is anyone with a kid at UVA following the parent posts on FB? I’m shocked that parents use terms like “top tier” frat and how they can’t believe their kid did not get into a top frat. It reminds me of when I was in high school 30 years ago and there were the popular kids. Anyway I just want to tell them that my kid who never had many friends is loving rush and when I asked him about these top tier frats his response is that the top tier is the one that’s right for you.

I am a little surprised parents would actually come right out and use those terms but tiering is absolutely a thing. The girls know. Everyone knows. But you aren’t really supposed to talk about it.

My DD is in a mid-tier sorority there. She says when she was rushing there was one house where the girls took PNM’s coats and one girl had the job of looking up the value online. PNMs are also carefully scrutinized for how many insta followers they have.

And yes, it’s very much like middle or high schools.

The lower tier sororities will be the one still doing COB after Rush ends because they didn’t meet quota.

The last thing you said is not really true. They may have made quota but get a certain amount of quota additions base on their total size. Many sororities will do COB, just not the top 6 or so.

The top ones don’t need to do COB was my point. Only the lower tier ones/less popular.

Yes, it’s all absurd. But yes, everyone knows and perception is everything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hi is anyone with a kid at UVA following the parent posts on FB? I’m shocked that parents use terms like “top tier” frat and how they can’t believe their kid did not get into a top frat. It reminds me of when I was in high school 30 years ago and there were the popular kids. Anyway I just want to tell them that my kid who never had many friends is loving rush and when I asked him about these top tier frats his response is that the top tier is the one that’s right for you.

I am a little surprised parents would actually come right out and use those terms but tiering is absolutely a thing. The girls know. Everyone knows. But you aren’t really supposed to talk about it.

My DD is in a mid-tier sorority there. She says when she was rushing there was one house where the girls took PNM’s coats and one girl had the job of looking up the value online. PNMs are also carefully scrutinized for how many insta followers they have.

And yes, it’s very much like middle or high schools.

The lower tier sororities will be the one still doing COB after Rush ends because they didn’t meet quota.

I’m on this FB group and this was actually one post where the mom was rambling about how because her child was an international student, he was immediately dropped from all the “high tier” fraternities. Pretty much all the responses told her to stop using that term and that there was no rule about who could join. And yes, I am sure there are connections that are made from high school, etc where some kids get in more easily than others, but IMO the post was bizarre.

[Anonymous]

All the girls that rush want the top 3 houses (the actual top sororities will vary by school). Yes, they go through the instagrams to figure out if you were popular in high school, which private school you went to, sleepaway camp, etc. Also to see how you dress, your HHI, etc. This 100% happens at every school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Get used to it. There are always people who won’t say publicly but they think of the Greek houses in tiers. I believe there’s a website that even ranks them by school.

From my uva days, the top sororities were kkg, tri delt, theta, and pi phi. Doubt it’s changed much. Fraternities had a similar pecking order.

How (and why) do you remember that!

I’m pretty sure anyone who went to a Greek dominated school would remember these details. I certainly remember that that top sororities at wake forest in 1999 were KKG, Chi O and Pi Phi. It’s not an insignificant detail of college if you go to a big greek school.

It’s interesting because Chi O is lowest tier at both UVa and VT

the "ranks" are different at every school. Kappa is top at UVA and bottom at another school which I can't recall right now LOL. Chi O is a very southern sorority, founded at U Arkansas, and tends to better in the south where there is a lot of cache to being a Chi O and legacies going back generations.