At what top school is full pay still a hook.
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Anonymous
| Even need blind institutions seem to kinda know if you are full pay or not... miraculously they end up with the same percentage of students receiving financial aid year after year. They look at zip code, high school, etc. |
Anonymous
News flash! American universities have been doing this for decades. |
Anonymous
I’d guess that being full pay is helpful at Tufts, of those on that list. But you’d still need to be a top applicant applying ED. I’m not sure re GW and BU but those might be others to look into if they are need aware. |
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MI likes OOS full pay.
Obviously these are all good schools and you need to be in the mix, but I dont think you need to ED these. I'd think Denison likes full pay. If you have a shot at Harvard, there's merit at Denison and Ohio, possibly USC and BU |
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All need aware schools who promise to meet full need will provide some degree of benefit for full pay.
But it is not a large list. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Need-blind_admission Go down to "Need-aware schools that meet needs of admitted students" |
Anonymous
| I'd look at the schools with the most 1% families - clearly they value $$ applicants. |
Anonymous
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I dont know if RPI, RIT, WPI etc would be considered as top schools, but these schools are not in best financial condition (state and local base shrinking) and would gladly accept OOS full pay $$
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Anonymous
what does OOS have to do with any of these? |
Anonymous
Almost all of those are need-blind. I agree with the others, look at BU, GWU, Denison, Tufts. The rest of the privates are need-blind. The publics don't care about your ability to pay; they don't give need-based aid to out of state students regardless, except MI gives some to low income. |
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I think of the LACs generally ranked above 20-ish. Colby and Skidmore come to mind. Both have a reputation for denying/waitlisting high-stats kids (who've also shown demonstrated interest) who need FA while accepting full-pay mid-stats kids in RD. Both are excellent schools for the right kid.
My high-stats, FA-needing, art-focused DC applied RD to Skidmore this year. We toured it this summer and thought it was great. But I'm not sanguine about DC's chances given its reputation. |
Anonymous
| outside of T50, signaling a full pay applicant definitely helps.. |
Anonymous
| None and it never was. |
Anonymous
Here is the text from that section of the wiki above: Many reputable institutions that once championed need-blind policies have modified their policies due to rising costs as well as subpar endowment returns. Such institutions include prestigious colleges that do not offer merit-based aid but promise to meet 100% of financial need (mostly through grants). These stated institutions refer to themselves as "need-aware" or "need-sensitive," with policies that detract from their ability to admit and educate all qualified candidates but allow them to meet the full need of all admitted students who qualify for financial aid (many institutions extend this policy to all students).[69] For instance, at Macalester College, Mount Holyoke College and Smith College, at least 95% of students are admitted without financial need being a factor, but a slim percentage, generally students who are waitlisted or who have borderline qualifications, are reviewed in consideration of the college's projected financial resources. All three colleges grant all admitted students financial aid packages meeting 100% of need.[70] At Wesleyan University, attempted shifts to a "need-aware" admission policy have resulted in protests by the school's student body.[71] Some institutions only meet the full need for students who are domestic US residents and/or are eligible for US federal financial aid, as proven by the applicant's FAFSA and CSS profile. A few only meet the full need of students under specific demographics who are considered "economically disadvantaged" and may not be guaranteed to meet the full need of other students. Do note that some colleges don't state their financial aid admissions policy, so they're sorted into the need-aware category. The following schools fall into this category: Alma College (Detroit high school students only)[72] American University (may not meet full need for transfer students)[73] Aquinas College (3.4 GPA and an SAT score of 1100 or ACT equivalent or higher required)[74] Augustana College (Illinois)[75] Bard College (only for historically economically disadvantaged in-state first-year students)[76] Bates College Boston University (may not meet full need for international students)[77] Bryn Mawr College California State University, Long Beach[78] Carleton College Case Western Reserve University Colby College Colgate University College of the Holy Cross[79] Colorado College Connecticut College[80] DePauw University (in-state students seeking financial aid only)[81] Dickinson College[82] Franklin and Marshall College George Washington University (lower-income first-year students of the District of Columbia who qualify for the D.C. Tuition Assistance Grant only)[83] Gettysburg College (select academically excelling, underrepresented minority, first-generation, first-year students only as part of the Gettysburg College STEM Scholars program)[84] Haverford College[85] Hendrix College (3.6 GPA and an ACT score of 26 or higher or an SAT score of 1230 or higher required)[86] Hobart and William Smith Colleges (early decision applicants only)[87] Kenyon College Lafayette College[88] Lawrence University (Currently meets demonstrated need for students of Wisconsin and Illinois for Fall 2023 onward; possibly aims to soon extend a full need policy to all students)[89][90] Macalester College Mount Holyoke College National University of Natural Medicine[91] Northeastern University (may not meet full need for international students)[92] Oberlin College Occidental College Ohio State University (only in-state students who qualify for the Pell Grant have the full need met)[93] Ohio Wesleyan University (Charles Thomas Scholars only)[94] Pitzer College Reed College Saint Joseph's University (select underrepresented students only as part of the STEM^2 Scholarship Program)[95] Sewanee: The University of the South[96] Scripps College Skidmore College[97] Smith College St. Olaf College[98] Thomas Aquinas College Stonehill College (Cathedral High School (Boston) graduates only) [99] Trinity College Trinity University (only for San Antonio Independent School District students)[100] Tufts University[101] Union College University of Miami[102] University of Pittsburgh (Pittsburgh public high school valedictorians and salutatorians as part of the Pittsburgh Public Scholars program only)[103] University of Puget Sound (Tacoma public high school students only)[104] University of Rochester[105] Washington & Jefferson College (only in-state students who are eligible for the Pennsylvania State Grant, and have a 3.7+ GPA plus an SAT score of 1200 or an ACT score of 27)[106] Washington & Lee University Wesleyan University Worcester Polytechnic Institute (Worcester public high school students eligible for the Pell Grant as part of the Great Minds/Compass Scholars Program only)[107] |
Anonymous
| Tulane |
Anonymous
Slightly confused. I thought BU is need-blind. https://blog.prepscholar.com/need-blind-colleges-list Also they seem to offer great financial aid. |