How long have you maintained the weight loss? |
+1 I’ll sigh along with you. I cannot believe that people don’t understand this yet, but I guess when someone’s world is so small that they get their jollies by mocking people, they have to cling to what they can. |
I think use of these drugs in the circumstance you paint is fine, and I can understand that is a difficult way to live. I experience hunger all the time, but I don't experience it in a way that it totally distracts me from my ability to function. But, it is also complete nonsense to act like being hungry is some kind of insane burden that humans were never intended to experience. We live in a time of plenty. That is not normal. Humans evolved to be in an environment of NOT[b] plenty. That is that hunger is there for - a signal to go out and get food, or in modern times, cultivate it. For me personally, I could eat and snack all the time, but I don't. Structuring your eating habits is about the most effective way to keep your weight and metabolic health in balance as possible. I also lost nearly 100 pounds, mostly because of poor lifestyle due to work stress and drinking. I am into endurance sports now, and I have to structure my eating or I will vomit during my workouts. True story. I have also found during injury I can pull back from the amount of food I need with no problem, and I don't gain any appreciable weight. So, everybody is different. I do think that people throw up their hands and don't actually try. And such "people" are not the ones intelligent enough to debate this online, like in this forum. |
I appreciate that you’re trying, but from the way you answer, it’s clear that you don’t understand what we’re talking about. I appreciate that you’re open minded about this. May I suggest “The Secret Life of Fat” for you? Once you’re obese, it is a different game as you have broken the systems that maintain most people’s normal-sized bodies and this book does a good job explaining that (as well as other very rare conditions that show that fat isn’t just excess calorie storage). It’s a good read. |
No thanks, not spending my time reading a book. I lived it. I was obese for many years. I did not "break my metabolism" which is garbage talk to people that don't want to actually make a change. I changed my body composition and it would be a struggle to gain weight. I am probably 5 pounds over my ideal weight right now and drinking some high alcohol beer as I type this on Christmas day. I am not going to worry about this at all. I am 6' and 175, just on the edge of "overweight", but about 10% body fat. I eat a ton of food - ask my wife. 90% of people create all these excuses for their condition. Its fine to acknowledge that, but a complete mental fallacy to ignore it and write a bunch of books. People don't like to be hungry. Well, that's biology. Structure your eating, and stop eating garbage. Its amazing what happens when you do that. |
Are you 21:54? That’s the one person to whom I was writing. |
I am sorry PP this sounds really hard and unfair. Wishing you Good luck in your journey |
+2 |
Really good article. I haven’t taken ozempic but realize obesity is a complicated issue.
I’m guessing most people who aren’t diabetic don’t want to be on it for life. It’s good if it can jumpstart weight loss and then people can successfully transition off of it. People who want to use it to lose 15 lbs are nuts though!! |
This is the only use that I find disturbing -- the "vanity weight" people who are getting it from shady doctors to lose 15 lbs so they can fit into a size 2. Using Ozempic to lose a substantial amount of weight, especially to address health effects of extra weight, maybe off-label but it's medically indicated. People use drugs off label for medically indicated reasons all the time. I have used an anti-inflammatory to treat migraines for the last couple years, under a physicians instructions, for instance. There's no difference between this and people using Ozempic to treat obesity. It's the people using Ozempic to treat "I want to look better in a bikini" who give me pause. All drugs have side effects, and there are shortages of these drugs which can be life-saving for people on diabetes, so seeing the trend of celebrities and other wealthy people using Ozempic/Wegovy to "get skinny" is concerning to me. It also reinforce unhealthy attitudes about what a healthy body looks like. |
Honestly this sounds scary. What if you’re not getting enough calories now that you are on Ozempic? Maybe your body is starving, but because you’re on a chemical that shuts the starving sign off, you aren’t getting what you really need? |
I did not read the article but as someone on metformin and a low dose of ozempic, I echo the poster who said that once you have obesity for a period of time, the body does resist weight loss and a lower set point. Additionally, per my physician, some of us will have a pancreas that can heal itself as we lose weight and others, even if we lost the weight, would still have impaired glucose control without meds, even if thinner. It's difficult to know what group you are in until you are there but certainly the course and severity of diabetes does vary. |
It is a tough one. I mean, hunger signals are an important part of survival--a feature, not a bug. All these social feeds focusing on "food noise" and "alcohol noise," are pretty disturbing. And it seems to me that these drugs are just playing into that. Knowing the difference between hunger and cravings, I guess, is the key. And it seems that some nervous systems must get their wires crossed. I know that personally, I rarely feel satiated. Like I could eat all day. But I do know when feeling like I want to eat is real hunger and necessity, versus a craving, versus boredom, versus anxiety. |
Who are you to other people what a healthy body should or shouldn't look like. If you don't want the side effects, don't take it. And btw, weight loss is on label for Wegovy. |
I probably eat between 1000-1200 calories per day — a balanced diet, just not as much. I do get regular hunger cues, particularly in the morning. The difference is that I now feel satiated after a meal (whereas before, I did not). |