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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It's incredibly strange that the plan for this doctor is that as soon as the numbers creep up again, they're going right back on ozempic. Why not make permanant lifestyle chnages to maintain the weightloss? Makes it sound like they have a serious eating disorder/mental health issues. [/quote]

((Sigh)). Why do we have to keep telling you how Ozempic/Wegovy works?  Despite what you believe, many of us do and have made lifestyle changes for years, only to see our efforts fail — either because our bodies need much fewer calories per day than the standard to lose weight, or because our bodies constantly tell us it is hungry despite eating all the right foods that should make us full.  Do you constantly feel hungry?  Before Wegovy, I counted calories — 1200/day per my doctor, and I know how many because I cook from scratch and weigh/measure my food and portions — yet it was not enough for me to lose weight.  Anything less, I felt like I was starving.  When I ate a bowl of oatmeal (for the fiber, to make me full) or protein (because it takes longer to digest), I remained hungry.  I drank tons of water in the event my hunger cues were really thirsty cues, but it didn’t help.  I ate a balanced diet, never drank juice or sugary drinks, and limited my alcohol to almost nothing (maybe 2 drinks/month).  And I was ALWAYS HUNGRY.  Now on Wegovy, I feel satiated when I eat a normal meal (I can eat that oatmeal and feel satisfied), although I probably do eat less than 1200 calories per day to sustain weight loss, but it’s slow (about 5 lbs/month).[/quote]
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I’ll sigh along with you. I cannot believe that people don’t understand this yet, but I guess when someone’s world is so small that they get their jollies by mocking people, they have to cling to what they can. [/quote]

I think use of these drugs in the circumstance you paint is fine, and I can understand that is a difficult way to live. I experience hunger all the time, but I don't experience it in a way that it totally distracts me from my ability to function.

But, it is also complete nonsense to act like being hungry is some kind of insane burden that humans were never intended to experience. We live in a time of plenty. That is not normal. Humans evolved to be in an environment of [u]NOT[/u][b] plenty. That is that hunger is there for - a signal to go out and get food, or in modern times, cultivate it.

For me personally, I could eat and snack all the time, but I don't. Structuring your eating habits is about the most effective way to keep your weight and metabolic health in balance as possible. I also lost nearly 100 pounds, mostly because of poor lifestyle due to work stress and drinking. I am into endurance sports now, and I have to structure my eating or I will vomit during my workouts. True story. I have also found during injury I can pull back from the amount of food I need with no problem, and I don't gain any appreciable weight.

So, everybody is different. I do think that people throw up their hands and don't actually try. And such "people" are not the ones intelligent enough to debate this online, like in this forum. [/quote]
I appreciate that you’re trying, but from the way you answer, it’s clear that you don’t understand what we’re talking about. I appreciate that you’re open minded about this. May I suggest “The Secret Life of Fat” for you? Once you’re obese, it is a different game as you have broken the systems that maintain most people’s normal-sized bodies and this book does a good job explaining that (as well as other very rare conditions that show that fat isn’t just excess calorie storage). It’s a good read. [/quote]

No thanks, not spending my time reading a book. I lived it. I was obese for many years. I did not "break my metabolism" which is garbage talk to people that don't want to actually make a change.

I changed my body composition and it would be a struggle to gain weight. I am probably 5 pounds over my ideal weight right now and drinking some high alcohol beer as I type this on Christmas day. I am not going to worry about this at all. I am 6' and 175, just on the edge of "overweight", but about 10% body fat. I eat a ton of food - ask my wife.

90% of people create all these excuses for their condition. Its fine to acknowledge that, but a complete mental fallacy to ignore it and write a bunch of books. People don't like to be hungry. Well, that's biology. Structure your eating, and stop eating garbage. Its amazing what happens when you do that. [/quote]

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