Painting a room with no windows

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Thanks for the concern/feedback. The baby will be sleeping with us in the beginning; this room is going to house its clothes, toys, etc. Even when the baby is older I doubt he'll spend too much time in there. And at any rate we also have about a dozen fire alarms and sprinklers scattered throughout the condo. Thanks again!


"Its" clothes, toys, etc. It sounds to me like the OP might not be planning a move and this child/baby will be sleeping in a windowless room. If this "room " isn't attached to another real room with windows and maybe double open doors ......

The only painting I'd recommend doing is to get this unit ready to sell or rent out if they own it. Get something with 2 real bedrooms. If renting prepare to find another home when the lease is up.
Anonymous
OP, we use a windowless den for our child's nursery. Used Benjamin Moore Natura paint. Husband painted it while I was at work one day. No fumes at all and it is one fab paint. And seriously, like you said, we have sprinkers and fire detectors all over our very small recently built condo. You are not trying to sell your condo as a 2 bedroom just create a cozy space for your child. Congrats. Don't worry.
Anonymous
Like the PP, I'm planning on using a windowless den for my baby's nursery. It's a perfectly suitable place for an infant so don't feel badly about your situation.
Anonymous
10:24 and 12:24, thanks for your kind words. I'll look into the Benjamin Moore Natura paint!
Anonymous
we used no VOC paint from eco-green living in DC. they'll make any color you want-- so if you don't find a benjamin moore color you like, pick out anything (any brand, any color) and the store will make it onsite with no VOC paint. they need a bit of lead time to get the breakdown of colors to mix, but if you give them the color and the brand you like, they can replicate it.

i have no idea why all these crazies, by the way, are weighing in on your windowless room. we have our baby in a room with windows, but have blackout shades up, so it might as well be windowless. people love to judge, judge, judge. good for you for being polite and telling them that you have a sound sprinkler system, etc. you're a better person than me. i'd have told them to f'off.
Anonymous
when I came as an AP the agency told u to watch out for families trying to host us in windowless rooms. Such families should be reported ASAP to the agency since it's very dangerous.
I can't imagine a mother so worried about fumes and suddenly not worried abt placing a child in a room with no windows.
Go figure...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:we used no VOC paint from eco-green living in DC. they'll make any color you want-- so if you don't find a benjamin moore color you like, pick out anything (any brand, any color) and the store will make it onsite with no VOC paint. they need a bit of lead time to get the breakdown of colors to mix, but if you give them the color and the brand you like, they can replicate it.

i have no idea why all these crazies, by the way, are weighing in on your windowless room. we have our baby in a room with windows, but have blackout shades up, so it might as well be windowless. people love to judge, judge, judge. good for you for being polite and telling them that you have a sound sprinkler system, etc. you're a better person than me. i'd have told them to f'off.



The point about the windows is not about light is about ventilation and access. Even with your blackout shades you are still able to open the window and in case of emergency a fireman or other emergency personnel is still able to get access to the room. I am sure that a sprinkler system is great, but it is no substitute for having multiple access points.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:A room with no windows is not a legal bedroom. This isn't to inconvenience you, OP, it is because it is terribly unsafe. God forbid there were a fire, there is no way to rescue your baby. Also, research has shown that air circulation is terribly important to preventing SIDS. Please, reconsider and if you have no more space maybe have your baby sleep in a bassinet in your room with you.


Every room in a house where someone sleeps the fire code requires a window large enough for a fireman in full regalia to enter through the window. In VA a bedroom must also have a closet. You need to fine a new room for your nursery.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:

Every room in a house where someone sleeps the fire code requires a window large enough for a fireman in full regalia to enter through the window. In VA a bedroom must also have a closet. You need to fine a new room for your nursery.


you got a cite for this, mr/ms legal sleuth? you must have missed your calling as a lawyer. the code you're thinking about likely applies to the legal right to call the condo X number of bedrooms for real estate selling/buying and tax assessment purposes. you can't call the place 2 bdrm unless two rooms have certain qualities, like a window. for example, let's assume the OP's condo is in virginia. and she said that they were going to put the baby in a nursery made of nothing but windows, so there's no closet. do you really mean to suggest that she has a legal obligation to relocate that nursery because there's no closet? you're an idiot.

OP- i hope you've stopped reading by now, b/c you're gonna get nothing but freaks commenting from here on out.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Every room in a house where someone sleeps the fire code requires a window large enough for a fireman in full regalia to enter through the window. In VA a bedroom must also have a closet. You need to fine a new room for your nursery.


you got a cite for this, mr/ms legal sleuth? you must have missed your calling as a lawyer. the code you're thinking about likely applies to the legal right to call the condo X number of bedrooms for real estate selling/buying and tax assessment purposes. you can't call the place 2 bdrm unless two rooms have certain qualities, like a window. for example, let's assume the OP's condo is in virginia. and she said that they were going to put the baby in a nursery made of nothing but windows, so there's no closet. do you really mean to suggest that she has a legal obligation to relocate that nursery because there's no closet? you're an idiot.

OP- i hope you've stopped reading by now, b/c you're gonna get nothing but freaks commenting from here on out.


I live in VA and I work for a municipal government and I know the code. It doesn't matter if OP only allows her child to sleep in a windowless room for 10 minutes or a month--if there is a fire and fireman can't get in, baby will most likely die of smoke inhalation If you live in VA and you have a windowless room, without a closet, and a regulation size window then you are in violation of the VA fire code. I sincerely hope none of your children are sleeping in these rooms.
Anonymous
NP here. Before our au pair arrived, the agency did an in-home inspection of her room - our LCC told me that the main reason for the inpsection was to insure that her room had a window that opened so that there was emergency access in the event of a fire or other necessary evacuation.

Not to beat you up OP, but I'd rethink your nursery placement too. Just seems unsafe to me.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:

I live in VA and I work for a municipal government and I know the code. It doesn't matter if OP only allows her child to sleep in a windowless room for 10 minutes or a month--if there is a fire and fireman can't get in, baby will most likely die of smoke inhalation If you live in VA and you have a windowless room, without a closet, and a regulation size window then you are in violation of the VA fire code. I sincerely hope none of your children are sleeping in these rooms.


you are the reason people make fun of gov't workers. please do yourself (and all of us) a favor and stop posting. you remind me of a lincoln quote: it is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt. please, oh please, stop posting and opening your mouth. i do appreciate your ill-placed concern for my children, though.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Every room in a house where someone sleeps the fire code requires a window large enough for a fireman in full regalia to enter through the window. In VA a bedroom must also have a closet. You need to fine a new room for your nursery.


you got a cite for this, mr/ms legal sleuth? you must have missed your calling as a lawyer. the code you're thinking about likely applies to the legal right to call the condo X number of bedrooms for real estate selling/buying and tax assessment purposes. you can't call the place 2 bdrm unless two rooms have certain qualities, like a window. for example, let's assume the OP's condo is in virginia. and she said that they were going to put the baby in a nursery made of nothing but windows, so there's no closet. do you really mean to suggest that she has a legal obligation to relocate that nursery because there's no closet? you're an idiot.

OP- i hope you've stopped reading by now, b/c you're gonna get nothing but freaks commenting from here on out.


Not freaks BUT YOU sound like a terrible person. It is silly to slam people who suggest that on a permanent basis a child have a real bedroom. Building and fire codes require 2 points of egress for bedrooms.
http://appraisersforum.com/showthread.php?p=1960798

A closet can be built.

http://dcra.dc.gov/DC/DCRA/Permits/Construction+Codes

DC has a good site "Rent My Basement"

http://rentmydcbasement.com/

In 2004 georgetown student died in a fire and another in the house went out the window from his bedroom onto a roof. Rooms are called dens not bedrooms because they are not up to code.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

I live in VA and I work for a municipal government and I know the code. It doesn't matter if OP only allows her child to sleep in a windowless room for 10 minutes or a month--if there is a fire and fireman can't get in, baby will most likely die of smoke inhalation If you live in VA and you have a windowless room, without a closet, and a regulation size window then you are in violation of the VA fire code. I sincerely hope none of your children are sleeping in these rooms.


you are the reason people make fun of gov't workers. please do yourself (and all of us) a favor and stop posting. you remind me of a lincoln quote: it is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt. please, oh please, stop posting and opening your mouth. i do appreciate your ill-placed concern for my children, though.



DC etc all have fire codes and those govt workers try to do a good job. Loss of life from ignoring codes:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A50159-2004Oct20.html

http://thisshouldbeillegal.com/

No reason to insult people who work for the govt.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

I live in VA and I work for a municipal government and I know the code. It doesn't matter if OP only allows her child to sleep in a windowless room for 10 minutes or a month--if there is a fire and fireman can't get in, baby will most likely die of smoke inhalation If you live in VA and you have a windowless room, without a closet, and a regulation size window then you are in violation of the VA fire code. I sincerely hope none of your children are sleeping in these rooms.


you are the reason people make fun of gov't workers. please do yourself (and all of us) a favor and stop posting. you remind me of a lincoln quote: it is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt. please, oh please, stop posting and opening your mouth. i do appreciate your ill-placed concern for my children, though.


Personally, I think it is of greater concern that if you have children they have you for a mother. You are scary. Do you hire out at Halloween as a witch? If so, how much because I sure you don't need a costume or special makeup.
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