non-Zionist Jewish congregations in the DMV?

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Anonymous wrote:If you were Jewish you would know that this question actually doesn't make any sense (as pp's post) and you would already know where to look to answer this question. There would be people in your life or who you associate with that would give you leads. Your question only makes sense if you became Jewish today or Jewish only for the purposes of making this post. You seem to not have a single connection in the community.

I just posted about the Jewish Humanist shuls. I don’t support the current policies in Israel. I also am a strong supporter of a two state solution. You can absolutely be Jewish and not a Zionist.

If you support a two state solution, like I do, I think that makes you a Zionist. I think anti-Zionists believe Israel should not exist at all.

This.

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Anonymous wrote:If you were Jewish you would know that this question actually doesn't make any sense (as pp's post) and you would already know where to look to answer this question. There would be people in your life or who you associate with that would give you leads. Your question only makes sense if you became Jewish today or Jewish only for the purposes of making this post. You seem to not have a single connection in the community.

I just posted about the Jewish Humanist shuls. I don’t support the current policies in Israel. I also am a strong supporter of a two state solution.f You can absolutely be Jewish and not a Zionist.

You do realize that the two-state solution only works if the “second state” doesn’t have as its public and professed mission “destroy first state” right? I mean, Hamas is not shy about this goal. The Palestinian people in Gaza ELECTED members of Hamas to serve as their official leadership. So how does one suggest that a two-state solution happen when one of the states wants to destroy the other—as its primary goal.???

This isn’t a political discussion, and your post shows you are ignorant on the actual root cause of the issue.

"Root cause" analysis of any issue has a lot of logical problems to resolve, but if you're going to explain anyone's behavior this way, it is completely disingenuous to ignore the entire sweep of antisemitism's history as a major motivation of Jewish behavior where this conflict is concerned.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anti Zionist means you don’t believe that Israel should exist at all. Not gonna be easy to find a congregation that actually believes and supports that idea.

There are many American Jews (the majority I would wager) who support the right of the nation of Israel to exist but vehemently oppose the actions of the Netanyahu government.

There is plenty of nuance and complexity to be had. Look for reform, reconstructionist, or humanist congregations.

There are different levels of anti-Zionism. To be clear I don’t label myself an anti-Zionist but do say I’m not a Zionist. I don’t believe in the rights of Israel over Palestine. I believe it’s nuanced and complicated and a situation placed upon the region by Britain and the UN. I think whether Israel should exist or not is a moot point at this point — it does and has for over 75 years. What the next steps are is really the question and I don’t believe Israel should be the only consideration. That is what I consider not being a Zionist.

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Anonymous wrote:If you were Jewish you would know that this question actually doesn't make any sense (as pp's post) and you would already know where to look to answer this question. There would be people in your life or who you associate with that would give you leads. Your question only makes sense if you became Jewish today or Jewish only for the purposes of making this post. You seem to not have a single connection in the community.

I just posted about the Jewish Humanist shuls. I don’t support the current policies in Israel. I also am a strong supporter of a two state solution.f You can absolutely be Jewish and not a Zionist.

You do realize that the two-state solution only works if the “second state” doesn’t have as its public and professed mission “destroy first state” right? I mean, Hamas is not shy about this goal. The Palestinian people in Gaza ELECTED members of Hamas to serve as their official leadership. So how does one suggest that a two-state solution happen when one of the states wants to destroy the other—as its primary goal.???

I don't know how to put a picture in the post:

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fuxiuo11qflvb1.jpg

No doubt this is the reaction part of the problem. The original one, though, started because the British gave the territory to the United Nations, which forcibly removed property from Arabs to give to Jews to create a new country.

We are clearly in political territory, which doesn't belong here, but the point you selected is hardly the beginning of (relevant) history.

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I'm not Jewish, but I grew up in a Jewish community in the 80s and 90s. I remember there being many "anti-Zionist" Jews there. They believed in the idea of Israel, but not the politically created Israel. I remember families telling me that they would not go visit this country, because only the Messiah can create Israel.

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Anonymous wrote:Anti Zionist means you don’t believe that Israel should exist at all. Not gonna be easy to find a congregation that actually believes and supports that idea.

There are many American Jews (the majority I would wager) who support the right of the nation of Israel to exist but vehemently oppose the actions of the Netanyahu government.

There is plenty of nuance and complexity to be had. Look for reform, reconstructionist, or humanist congregations.

There are different levels of anti-Zionism. To be clear I don’t label myself an anti-Zionist but do say I’m not a Zionist. I don’t believe in the rights of Israel over Palestine. I believe it’s nuanced and complicated and a situation placed upon the region by Britain and the UN. I think whether Israel should exist or not is a moot point at this point — it does and has for over 75 years. What the next steps are is really the question and I don’t believe Israel should be the only consideration. That is what I consider not being a Zionist.

That might be what you consider not being a Zionist, but that is not what the literal definition of anti-Zionism means. This is important because (the vast majority of) synagogues will be using the literal definition and thus do not have the middle ground. If they believe that Israel has the right to exist, in some form, (the vast majority of) synagogues will align with Zionism - or say nothing. Especially in this area.

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Anyway, I think just about every congregation in DC proper, the two modern Orthodox synagogues included, will have most of their members critical of Netanyahu.

But it doesn't sound like that's what you're asking. You want a community of people who still like bagels but have separated themselves from the existential needs of the Jewish people.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Anti Zionist means you don’t believe that Israel should exist at all. Not gonna be easy to find a congregation that actually believes and supports that idea.

There are many American Jews (the majority I would wager) who support the right of the nation of Israel to exist but vehemently oppose the actions of the Netanyahu government.

There is plenty of nuance and complexity to be had. Look for reform, reconstructionist, or humanist congregations.

There are different levels of anti-Zionism. To be clear I don’t label myself an anti-Zionist but do say I’m not a Zionist. I don’t believe in the rights of Israel over Palestine. I believe it’s nuanced and complicated and a situation placed upon the region by Britain and the UN. I think whether Israel should exist or not is a moot point at this point — it does and has for over 75 years. What the next steps are is really the question and I don’t believe Israel should be the only consideration. That is what I consider not being a Zionist.

That might be what you consider not being a Zionist, but that is not what the literal definition of anti-Zionism means. This is important because (the vast majority of) synagogues will be using the literal definition and thus do not have the middle ground. If they believe that Israel has the right to exist, in some form, (the vast majority of) synagogues will align with Zionism - or say nothing. Especially in this area.

The Humanist congregations go fairly deep into the conflict and into the rights of the Palestinian people. It very much aligns to my beliefs

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I think, OP, if you can't acknowledge that terrorists and their many apologists around the world present an existential challenge to the Jewish people, you may need to consider whether you are ok with not having enough of us Jews left to join you in a congregation.

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Anonymous wrote:If you were Jewish you would know that this question actually doesn't make any sense (as pp's post) and you would already know where to look to answer this question. There would be people in your life or who you associate with that would give you leads. Your question only makes sense if you became Jewish today or Jewish only for the purposes of making this post. You seem to not have a single connection in the community.

I just posted about the Jewish Humanist shuls. I don’t support the current policies in Israel. I also am a strong supporter of a two state solution. You can absolutely be Jewish and not a Zionist.

If you support a two state solution, like I do, I think that makes you a Zionist. I think anti-Zionists believe Israel should not exist at all.

+1 that is my understanding, too

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anti Zionist means you don’t believe that Israel should exist at all. Not gonna be easy to find a congregation that actually believes and supports that idea.

There are many American Jews (the majority I would wager) who support the right of the nation of Israel to exist but vehemently oppose the actions of the Netanyahu government.

There is plenty of nuance and complexity to be had. Look for reform, reconstructionist, or humanist congregations.

There are different levels of anti-Zionism. To be clear I don’t label myself an anti-Zionist but do say I’m not a Zionist. I don’t believe in the rights of Israel over Palestine. I believe it’s nuanced and complicated and a situation placed upon the region by Britain and the UN. I think whether Israel should exist or not is a moot point at this point — it does and has for over 75 years. What the next steps are is really the question and I don’t believe Israel should be the only consideration. That is what I consider not being a Zionist.

That might be what you consider not being a Zionist, but that is not what the literal definition of anti-Zionism means. This is important because (the vast majority of) synagogues will be using the literal definition and thus do not have the middle ground. If they believe that Israel has the right to exist, in some form, (the vast majority of) synagogues will align with Zionism - or say nothing. Especially in this area.

+1

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you were Jewish you would know that this question actually doesn't make any sense (as pp's post) and you would already know where to look to answer this question. There would be people in your life or who you associate with that would give you leads. Your question only makes sense if you became Jewish today or Jewish only for the purposes of making this post. You seem to not have a single connection in the community.

I just posted about the Jewish Humanist shuls. I don’t support the current policies in Israel. I also am a strong supporter of a two state solution.f You can absolutely be Jewish and not a Zionist.

You do realize that the two-state solution only works if the “second state” doesn’t have as its public and professed mission “destroy first state” right? I mean, Hamas is not shy about this goal. The Palestinian people in Gaza ELECTED members of Hamas to serve as their official leadership. So how does one suggest that a two-state solution happen when one of the states wants to destroy the other—as its primary goal.???

In 2006, Hamas won 44% of the vote in parliamentary elections (yes, more than any other party, but not a majority). Hamas has since been running an authoritarian regime. There have been no elections in 15+ years.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you were Jewish you would know that this question actually doesn't make any sense (as pp's post) and you would already know where to look to answer this question. There would be people in your life or who you associate with that would give you leads. Your question only makes sense if you became Jewish today or Jewish only for the purposes of making this post. You seem to not have a single connection in the community.

I just posted about the Jewish Humanist shuls. I don’t support the current policies in Israel. I also am a strong supporter of a two state solution. You can absolutely be Jewish and not a Zionist.

If you support a two state solution, like I do, I think that makes you a Zionist. I think anti-Zionists believe Israel should not exist at all.

This.

There is the third view that Israel should not HAVE EXISTED/BEEN CREATED in 1948 on the stolen lands of others, but that to remove Israel today would be effectively repeating the abhorrent practice of stealing lands from innocent people.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you were Jewish you would know that this question actually doesn't make any sense (as pp's post) and you would already know where to look to answer this question. There would be people in your life or who you associate with that would give you leads. Your question only makes sense if you became Jewish today or Jewish only for the purposes of making this post. You seem to not have a single connection in the community.

I just posted about the Jewish Humanist shuls. I don’t support the current policies in Israel. I also am a strong supporter of a two state solution. You can absolutely be Jewish and not a Zionist.

If you support a two state solution, like I do, I think that makes you a Zionist. I think anti-Zionists believe Israel should not exist at all.

This.

There is the third view that Israel should not HAVE EXISTED/BEEN CREATED in 1948 on the stolen lands of others, but that to remove Israel today would be effectively repeating the abhorrent practice of stealing lands from innocent people.

I’m the previous poster who does not label herself a Zionist. I agree with this, but I also recognize it was a response from an antisemetic US and Europe who didn’t want the influx of Jewish refugees after the Holocaust. It was an easy solution for them that furthered antisemitism….

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Anonymous wrote:If you were Jewish you would know that this question actually doesn't make any sense (as pp's post) and you would already know where to look to answer this question. There would be people in your life or who you associate with that would give you leads. Your question only makes sense if you became Jewish today or Jewish only for the purposes of making this post. You seem to not have a single connection in the community.

I just posted about the Jewish Humanist shuls. I don’t support the current policies in Israel. I also am a strong supporter of a two state solution. You can absolutely be Jewish and not a Zionist.

If you support a two state solution, like I do, I think that makes you a Zionist. I think anti-Zionists believe Israel should not exist at all.

This.

There is the third view that Israel should not HAVE EXISTED/BEEN CREATED in 1948 on the stolen lands of others, but that to remove Israel today would be effectively repeating the abhorrent practice of stealing lands from innocent people.

I’m the previous poster who does not label herself a Zionist. I agree with this, but I also recognize it was a response from an antisemetic US and Europe who didn’t want the influx of Jewish refugees after the Holocaust. It was an easy solution for them that furthered antisemitism….

No one is forced to become an antisemite.
On another but not completely unrelated note, cries of "I am oppressed" does not mean that you have the right to become a terrorist.
People should have personal responsiblity for each and every action in their lives.