So with four meets this weekend - all of DMV swimming?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry -- meant to say when PARENTS don't have a kid that is truly passionate about a sport.

Being passionate is one thing. You and/or your kid obsessing about just barely making a cut for the NCAP Invite (or whatever meet) is something entirely different. A lot of kids make these cuts. A lot don't. Relax and let them be a kid before you make them hate swimming, or make them obsess even more to please you, just because they didn't make a cut that all their friends made.

Not the PP, but my kid is one of those obsessive swimmers and is planning to swim in college. There is no way I could make her hate swimming. It is her life. There are kids out there that go and hit the water to practice their turns or underwaters on their own. You have to fight with them to not do doubles every day, and to take breaks. They don't miss meets. They are trying for the next cut because once they can get it they can try for the one after that. If you don't have a kid like that, then you just don't get it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry -- meant to say when PARENTS don't have a kid that is truly passionate about a sport.

Being passionate is one thing. You and/or your kid obsessing about just barely making a cut for the NCAP Invite (or whatever meet) is something entirely different. A lot of kids make these cuts. A lot don't. Relax and let them be a kid before you make them hate swimming, or make them obsess even more to please you, just because they didn't make a cut that all their friends made.

Not the PP, but my kid is one of those obsessive swimmers and is planning to swim in college. There is no way I could make her hate swimming. It is her life. There are kids out there that go and hit the water to practice their turns or underwaters on their own. You have to fight with them to not do doubles every day, and to take breaks. They don't miss meets. They are trying for the next cut because once they can get it they can try for the one after that. If you don't have a kid like that, then you just don't get it.

Cool, so that kid's goal really is the Olympics then.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry -- meant to say when PARENTS don't have a kid that is truly passionate about a sport.

Being passionate is one thing. You and/or your kid obsessing about just barely making a cut for the NCAP Invite (or whatever meet) is something entirely different. A lot of kids make these cuts. A lot don't. Relax and let them be a kid before you make them hate swimming, or make them obsess even more to please you, just because they didn't make a cut that all their friends made.

Not the PP, but my kid is one of those obsessive swimmers and is planning to swim in college. There is no way I could make her hate swimming. It is her life. There are kids out there that go and hit the water to practice their turns or underwaters on their own. You have to fight with them to not do doubles every day, and to take breaks. They don't miss meets. They are trying for the next cut because once they can get it they can try for the one after that. If you don't have a kid like that, then you just don't get it.

Cool, so that kid's goal really is the Olympics then.[b]

You are an ass.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Its interesting how oversubscribed the open is given the other 3 meets. Officials at these 7 meets are going to be spread mighty thin. One thing I like about swimming is that you don't have to do all the meets, if you want to go away this weekend, just don't sign your kid up to swim.

I wish. When a kid is going for a qualifying time, skipping a meet is not an option.

A qualifying time for what? Your DC has until May 30, 2024 to qualify for Olympic Trials.

Why are you on this forum? Swim is about making cuts and always making the next cut. So winter champs in December. PVS Champs. Zones. Etc.

It is not about the Olympics but making the next cut.

People need to chill out and stop overemphasizing the significance of **ALWAYS** making the next cut, especially on some arbitrary time scale. The irony of falling prey to this destructive line of thinking is that any sequence of events falling short of world records will ultimately be a disappointment to either the parent or kid. Whether Johnny swims a second faster than ever before at the PVS Open meet on November 12th or at some second tier meet in December really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. Keep the big picture in mind and remember that getting too focused on the short-term results is often detrimental to long-term development.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry -- meant to say when PARENTS don't have a kid that is truly passionate about a sport.

Being passionate is one thing. You and/or your kid obsessing about just barely making a cut for the NCAP Invite (or whatever meet) is something entirely different. A lot of kids make these cuts. A lot don't. Relax and let them be a kid before you make them hate swimming, or make them obsess even more to please you, just because they didn't make a cut that all their friends made.

Found the poster whose kid can’t sniff any type of champs cut so to feel better about that waxes on about how everyone should relax, enjoy the process, it’s not like it’s the Olympics, etc.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Its interesting how oversubscribed the open is given the other 3 meets. Officials at these 7 meets are going to be spread mighty thin. One thing I like about swimming is that you don't have to do all the meets, if you want to go away this weekend, just don't sign your kid up to swim.

I wish. When a kid is going for a qualifying time, skipping a meet is not an option.

A qualifying time for what? Your DC has until May 30, 2024 to qualify for Olympic Trials.

Why are you on this forum? Swim is about making cuts and always making the next cut. So winter champs in December. PVS Champs. Zones. Etc.

It is not about the Olympics but making the next cut.

People need to chill out and stop overemphasizing the significance of **ALWAYS** making the next cut, especially on some arbitrary time scale. The irony of falling prey to this destructive line of thinking is that any sequence of events falling short of world records will ultimately be a disappointment to either the parent or kid. Whether Johnny swims a second faster than ever before at the PVS Open meet on November 12th or at some second tier meet in December really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. Keep the big picture in mind and remember that getting too focused on the short-term results is often detrimental to long-term development.

So I am hearing your kiddo is a slower than B swimmer.

[Anonymous]

So we’re clear, you two most recent PPs are making fun of a kid for being slow at swimming. At least, that’s what you think you’re doing: adults making fun of kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So we’re clear, you two most recent PPs are making fun of a kid for being slow at swimming. At least, that’s what you think you’re doing: adults making fun of kids.

Nope, I’m giving it right back to the parent being unnecessarily critical of fast swimmers who are goal-oriented and care about things like champs cuts. My kid has plenty of teammates who don’t make champs cuts but you know what their parents don’t do, talk sh!t about the kids making cuts to make themselves feel better about their kid’s performance. The first poster was actually the adult making fun of kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So we’re clear, you two most recent PPs are making fun of a kid for being slow at swimming. At least, that’s what you think you’re doing: adults making fun of kids.

Nope, I’m giving it right back to the parent being unnecessarily critical of fast swimmers who are goal-oriented and care about things like champs cuts. My kid has plenty of teammates who don’t make champs cuts but you know what their parents don’t do, talk sh!t about the kids making cuts to make themselves feel better about their kid’s performance. The first poster was actually the adult making fun of kids.

I see a lot of assumptions being made here. You have no idea how many winter champs cuts the earlier poster’s kids have or don’t have. For all you know, they could made winter champs cuts last fall, winter, or spring and therefore don’t have to stress over a “last chance to qualify” this weekend like your “fast” swimmer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So we’re clear, you two most recent PPs are making fun of a kid for being slow at swimming. At least, that’s what you think you’re doing: adults making fun of kids.

Nope, I’m giving it right back to the parent being unnecessarily critical of fast swimmers who are goal-oriented and care about things like champs cuts. My kid has plenty of teammates who don’t make champs cuts but you know what their parents don’t do, talk sh!t about the kids making cuts to make themselves feel better about their kid’s performance. The first poster was actually the adult making fun of kids.

I see a lot of assumptions being made here. You have no idea how many winter champs cuts the earlier poster’s kids have or don’t have. For all you know, they could made winter champs cuts last fall, winter, or spring and therefore don’t have to stress over a “last chance to qualify” this weekend like your “fast” swimmer.

No parent of a fast, serious swimmer sarcastically posts about oh well your kid has until May 2024 to qualify for Olympic trials. My fast swimmer already has their winter and spring cuts at the low end of the age group but thanks for your concern.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Its interesting how oversubscribed the open is given the other 3 meets. Officials at these 7 meets are going to be spread mighty thin. One thing I like about swimming is that you don't have to do all the meets, if you want to go away this weekend, just don't sign your kid up to swim.

I wish. When a kid is going for a qualifying time, skipping a meet is not an option.

A qualifying time for what? Your DC has until May 30, 2024 to qualify for Olympic Trials.

Are any of them LC? Can’t get an OT cut anyways. Unless you are being flip.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So we’re clear, you two most recent PPs are making fun of a kid for being slow at swimming. At least, that’s what you think you’re doing: adults making fun of kids.

Nope, I’m giving it right back to the parent being unnecessarily critical of fast swimmers who are goal-oriented and care about things like champs cuts. My kid has plenty of teammates who don’t make champs cuts but you know what their parents don’t do, talk sh!t about the kids making cuts to make themselves feel better about their kid’s performance. The first poster was actually the adult making fun of kids.

Well, all the rest of us with kids who are in the Slower than B category saw it too. And yes, you were mocking our kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So we’re clear, you two most recent PPs are making fun of a kid for being slow at swimming. At least, that’s what you think you’re doing: adults making fun of kids.

Nope, I’m giving it right back to the parent being unnecessarily critical of fast swimmers who are goal-oriented and care about things like champs cuts. My kid has plenty of teammates who don’t make champs cuts but you know what their parents don’t do, talk sh!t about the kids making cuts to make themselves feel better about their kid’s performance. The first poster was actually the adult making fun of kids.

Well, all the rest of us with kids who are in the Slower than B category saw it too. And yes, you were mocking our kids.

No I didn’t say anything about the kids, I called out the parent, but that poster was absolutely mocking mine for caring about cuts.

[Anonymous]

The parent making the Olympic comment and telling everyone to relax was making fun of driven/competitive kids. They were also going after the parent.

I have several kids that swim competitively. I have one of those crazy kids who is obsessed with swimming. People are going to think I push, but believe me, I do not. My other kids will skip practice or do other things. MY competitive kid gets angry when I make them skip.

If there is a family where all the kids are super competitive I would suspect the parents are pushing it. It would not be normal to have all kids have the same passion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The parent making the Olympic comment and telling everyone to relax was making fun of driven/competitive kids. They were also going after the parent.

I have several kids that swim competitively. I have one of those crazy kids who is obsessed with swimming. People are going to think I push, but believe me, I do not. My other kids will skip practice or do other things. MY competitive kid gets angry when I make them skip.

If there is a family where all the kids are super competitive I would suspect the parents are pushing it. It would not be normal to have all kids have the same passion.

I agree. One family I knew when my kids were younger would reward their kids when they got best times and would take away electronics if they added. They also paid a lot of money for private lessons and trainers when the kids were already in the pool 5 or 6 days a week. It seemed beyond crazy to me and I was not sure if the kids even liked to swim.