Magnet electives question

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Anonymous wrote:Could you take AP Chemistry or AP Physics? I mean sure the magnet Physics and Chem cover some of that but don't prepare students for the AP, which is helpful for those magnet kids who plan to go to college.

If you look at the placement rates from Blair, it's pretty clear that they know what's helpful for kids who plan to go to college.

My kid who is hoping for a magnet, loves STEM and foreign language. I can see him choosing to take two languages and less STEM, that's a choice that makes sense for me, or another kid taking more music electives or discovering a love for history and taking extra courses there, all of which would mean less STEM. But I can't see how subbing AP physics or chem for the magnet physics and chem.

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Anonymous wrote:Could you take AP Chemistry or AP Physics? I mean sure the magnet Physics and Chem cover some of that but don't prepare students for the AP, which is helpful for those magnet kids who plan to go to college.

Magnet Physics and Chemistry are mostly the full year MCPS class taught over 1 semester instead of 2. They do not prepare kids for the AP exam. I am not aware of kids taking the exam after freshman year. My DC took AP Chem after Magnet Chem and I think that is the norm.

Would taking AP Chem as a Junior as a magnet elective possible before going deeper with analytical chem etc be possible?

I'm mostly curious since there are only so many periods and loading AP Chem on top of 4 magnet classes would be tough with SS, English, PE/Health/Music, FL reqs.

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Anonymous wrote:Could you take AP Chemistry or AP Physics? I mean sure the magnet Physics and Chem cover some of that but don't prepare students for the AP, which is helpful for those magnet kids who plan to go to college.

If you look at the placement rates from Blair, it's pretty clear that they know what's helpful for kids who plan to go to college.

My kid who is hoping for a magnet, loves STEM and foreign language. I can see him choosing to take two languages and less STEM, that's a choice that makes sense for me, or another kid taking more music electives or discovering a love for history and taking extra courses there, all of which would mean less STEM. But I can't see how subbing AP physics or chem for the magnet physics and chem.

No AP Physics or AP Chem would be in addition to magnet physics and magnet chem which are advanced classes but only 1 semester long so don't cover the same material.

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Anonymous wrote:Could you take AP Chemistry or AP Physics? I mean sure the magnet Physics and Chem cover some of that but don't prepare students for the AP, which is helpful for those magnet kids who plan to go to college.

Magnet Physics and Chemistry are mostly the full year MCPS class taught over 1 semester instead of 2. They do not prepare kids for the AP exam. I am not aware of kids taking the exam after freshman year. My DC took AP Chem after Magnet Chem and I think that is the norm.

Would taking AP Chem as a Junior as a magnet elective possible before going deeper with analytical chem etc be possible?

I'm mostly curious since there are only so many periods and loading AP Chem on top of 4 magnet classes would be tough with SS, English, PE/Health/Music, FL reqs.

Who are you and why are you asking all these questions? You don't sound like a magnet parent. If you were a magnet parent you'd know that AP Chem, AP Physics and AP Bio are possible but strongly not recommended. The magnet equivalents are more challenging and go into more depth. I think they recommend Genetics and something else instead of AP Chem and they cover nearly all the AP topics and a lot more.

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Anonymous wrote:Could you take AP Chemistry or AP Physics? I mean sure the magnet Physics and Chem cover some of that but don't prepare students for the AP, which is helpful for those magnet kids who plan to go to college.

What are you talking about? I've never heard of a magnet kid not going to college. If you have questions along these lines that don't make a lot of sense I'd recommend actually taking 5 minutes to read about the program before wasting everyone's time.

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Anonymous wrote:Could you take AP Chemistry or AP Physics? I mean sure the magnet Physics and Chem cover some of that but don't prepare students for the AP, which is helpful for those magnet kids who plan to go to college.

What are you talking about? I've never heard of a magnet kid not going to college. If you have questions along these lines that don't make a lot of sense I'd recommend actually taking 5 minutes to read about the program before wasting everyone's time.

I'm sure these some might. Just look at Steve Jobs or Bill Gates. I mean those who are more interested in college might want to take more APs.

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Anonymous wrote:Could you take AP Chemistry or AP Physics? I mean sure the magnet Physics and Chem cover some of that but don't prepare students for the AP, which is helpful for those magnet kids who plan to go to college.

Magnet Physics and Chemistry are mostly the full year MCPS class taught over 1 semester instead of 2. They do not prepare kids for the AP exam. I am not aware of kids taking the exam after freshman year. My DC took AP Chem after Magnet Chem and I think that is the norm.

Would taking AP Chem as a Junior as a magnet elective possible before going deeper with analytical chem etc be possible?

I'm mostly curious since there are only so many periods and loading AP Chem on top of 4 magnet classes would be tough with SS, English, PE/Health/Music, FL reqs.

Who are you and why are you asking all these questions? You don't sound like a magnet parent. If you were a magnet parent you'd know that AP Chem, AP Physics and AP Bio are possible but strongly not recommended. The magnet equivalents are more challenging and go into more depth. I think they recommend Genetics and something else instead of AP Chem and they cover nearly all the AP topics and a lot more.

I get that they're challenging but also just semester-long courses that leave out a lot that is covered in a year long AP class.

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Anonymous wrote:Could you take AP Chemistry or AP Physics? I mean sure the magnet Physics and Chem cover some of that but don't prepare students for the AP, which is helpful for those magnet kids who plan to go to college.

Magnet Physics and Chemistry are mostly the full year MCPS class taught over 1 semester instead of 2. They do not prepare kids for the AP exam. I am not aware of kids taking the exam after freshman year. My DC took AP Chem after Magnet Chem and I think that is the norm.

Would taking AP Chem as a Junior as a magnet elective possible before going deeper with analytical chem etc be possible?

I'm mostly curious since there are only so many periods and loading AP Chem on top of 4 magnet classes would be tough with SS, English, PE/Health/Music, FL reqs.

My child took Magnet chem, AP Chem, and Magnet organic Chemistry. AP Chem was only 1 period with no lab (not sure how chem with no lab is possible but??)

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Anonymous wrote:Could you take AP Chemistry or AP Physics? I mean sure the magnet Physics and Chem cover some of that but don't prepare students for the AP, which is helpful for those magnet kids who plan to go to college.

Magnet Physics and Chemistry are mostly the full year MCPS class taught over 1 semester instead of 2. They do not prepare kids for the AP exam. I am not aware of kids taking the exam after freshman year. My DC took AP Chem after Magnet Chem and I think that is the norm.

Would taking AP Chem as a Junior as a magnet elective possible before going deeper with analytical chem etc be possible?

I'm mostly curious since there are only so many periods and loading AP Chem on top of 4 magnet classes would be tough with SS, English, PE/Health/Music, FL reqs.

Who are you and why are you asking all these questions? You don't sound like a magnet parent. If you were a magnet parent you'd know that AP Chem, AP Physics and AP Bio are possible but strongly not recommended. The magnet equivalents are more challenging and go into more depth. I think they recommend Genetics and something else instead of AP Chem and they cover nearly all the AP topics and a lot more.

I get that they're challenging but also just semester-long courses that leave out a lot that is covered in a year long AP class.

Right, they are a souped up version of the year long honors class that non-magnet kids take before they take the AP class. AP Chem and AP Physics would cover content that's covered in the magnet electives that you're talking about replacing. Comparing them to the freshmen/sophomore required classes makes no sense.

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Anonymous wrote:Could you take AP Chemistry or AP Physics? I mean sure the magnet Physics and Chem cover some of that but don't prepare students for the AP, which is helpful for those magnet kids who plan to go to college.

Magnet Physics and Chemistry are mostly the full year MCPS class taught over 1 semester instead of 2. They do not prepare kids for the AP exam. I am not aware of kids taking the exam after freshman year. My DC took AP Chem after Magnet Chem and I think that is the norm.

Would taking AP Chem as a Junior as a magnet elective possible before going deeper with analytical chem etc be possible?

I'm mostly curious since there are only so many periods and loading AP Chem on top of 4 magnet classes would be tough with SS, English, PE/Health/Music, FL reqs.

Who are you and why are you asking all these questions? You don't sound like a magnet parent. If you were a magnet parent you'd know that AP Chem, AP Physics and AP Bio are possible but strongly not recommended. The magnet equivalents are more challenging and go into more depth. I think they recommend Genetics and something else instead of AP Chem and they cover nearly all the AP topics and a lot more.

I get that they're challenging but also just semester-long courses that leave out a lot that is covered in a year long AP class.

Right, they are a souped up version of the year long honors class that non-magnet kids take before they take the AP class. AP Chem and AP Physics would cover content that's covered in the magnet electives that you're talking about replacing. Comparing them to the freshmen/sophomore required classes makes no sense.

True AP Chem and AP Physics are year-long courses that cover content that isn't covered by the semester-long magnet courses.

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Anonymous wrote:Could you take AP Chemistry or AP Physics? I mean sure the magnet Physics and Chem cover some of that but don't prepare students for the AP, which is helpful for those magnet kids who plan to go to college.

Magnet Physics and Chemistry are mostly the full year MCPS class taught over 1 semester instead of 2. They do not prepare kids for the AP exam. I am not aware of kids taking the exam after freshman year. My DC took AP Chem after Magnet Chem and I think that is the norm.

Would taking AP Chem as a Junior as a magnet elective possible before going deeper with analytical chem etc be possible?

I'm mostly curious since there are only so many periods and loading AP Chem on top of 4 magnet classes would be tough with SS, English, PE/Health/Music, FL reqs.

Who are you and why are you asking all these questions? You don't sound like a magnet parent. If you were a magnet parent you'd know that AP Chem, AP Physics and AP Bio are possible but strongly not recommended. The magnet equivalents are more challenging and go into more depth. I think they recommend Genetics and something else instead of AP Chem and they cover nearly all the AP topics and a lot more.

I get that they're challenging but also just semester-long courses that leave out a lot that is covered in a year long AP class.

Right, they are a souped up version of the year long honors class that non-magnet kids take before they take the AP class. AP Chem and AP Physics would cover content that's covered in the magnet electives that you're talking about replacing. Comparing them to the freshmen/sophomore required classes makes no sense.

True AP Chem and AP Physics are year-long courses that cover content that isn't covered by the semester-long magnet courses.

No one is disagreeing with that. But AP Chem has a prerequisite, of honors chem. The semester long magnet course replaces honors chem. So, a magnet kid considering taking AP chem is choosing between AP chem and the advanced magnet chemistry electives. No one is choosing between the semester long required magnet chem and AP chem, so comparing them doesn't make sense.

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Anonymous wrote:Could you take AP Chemistry or AP Physics? I mean sure the magnet Physics and Chem cover some of that but don't prepare students for the AP, which is helpful for those magnet kids who plan to go to college.

Magnet Physics and Chemistry are mostly the full year MCPS class taught over 1 semester instead of 2. They do not prepare kids for the AP exam. I am not aware of kids taking the exam after freshman year. My DC took AP Chem after Magnet Chem and I think that is the norm.

Would taking AP Chem as a Junior as a magnet elective possible before going deeper with analytical chem etc be possible?

I'm mostly curious since there are only so many periods and loading AP Chem on top of 4 magnet classes would be tough with SS, English, PE/Health/Music, FL reqs.

Who are you and why are you asking all these questions? You don't sound like a magnet parent. If you were a magnet parent you'd know that AP Chem, AP Physics and AP Bio are possible but strongly not recommended. The magnet equivalents are more challenging and go into more depth. I think they recommend Genetics and something else instead of AP Chem and they cover nearly all the AP topics and a lot more.

I get that they're challenging but also just semester-long courses that leave out a lot that is covered in a year long AP class.

Right, they are a souped up version of the year long honors class that non-magnet kids take before they take the AP class. AP Chem and AP Physics would cover content that's covered in the magnet electives that you're talking about replacing. Comparing them to the freshmen/sophomore required classes makes no sense.

True AP Chem and AP Physics are year-long courses that cover content that isn't covered by the semester-long magnet courses.

No one is disagreeing with that. But AP Chem has a prerequisite, of honors chem. The semester long magnet course replaces honors chem. So, a magnet kid considering taking AP chem is choosing between AP chem and the advanced magnet chemistry electives. No one is choosing between the semester long required magnet chem and AP chem, so comparing them doesn't make sense.

So taking AP Chem is an alternative to taking the other advanced chem electives. Curiously, the prereqs for those for non-magnet students is AP Chem which is a little confusing.

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Anonymous wrote:Could you take AP Chemistry or AP Physics? I mean sure the magnet Physics and Chem cover some of that but don't prepare students for the AP, which is helpful for those magnet kids who plan to go to college.

Magnet Physics and Chemistry are mostly the full year MCPS class taught over 1 semester instead of 2. They do not prepare kids for the AP exam. I am not aware of kids taking the exam after freshman year. My DC took AP Chem after Magnet Chem and I think that is the norm.

Would taking AP Chem as a Junior as a magnet elective possible before going deeper with analytical chem etc be possible?

I'm mostly curious since there are only so many periods and loading AP Chem on top of 4 magnet classes would be tough with SS, English, PE/Health/Music, FL reqs.

Who are you and why are you asking all these questions? You don't sound like a magnet parent. If you were a magnet parent you'd know that AP Chem, AP Physics and AP Bio are possible but strongly not recommended. The magnet equivalents are more challenging and go into more depth. I think they recommend Genetics and something else instead of AP Chem and they cover nearly all the AP topics and a lot more.

I get that they're challenging but also just semester-long courses that leave out a lot that is covered in a year long AP class.

Right, they are a souped up version of the year long honors class that non-magnet kids take before they take the AP class. AP Chem and AP Physics would cover content that's covered in the magnet electives that you're talking about replacing. Comparing them to the freshmen/sophomore required classes makes no sense.

True AP Chem and AP Physics are year-long courses that cover content that isn't covered by the semester-long magnet courses.

No one is disagreeing with that. But AP Chem has a prerequisite, of honors chem. The semester long magnet course replaces honors chem. So, a magnet kid considering taking AP chem is choosing between AP chem and the advanced magnet chemistry electives. No one is choosing between the semester long required magnet chem and AP chem, so comparing them doesn't make sense.

So taking AP Chem is an alternative to taking the other advanced chem electives. Curiously, the prereqs for those for non-magnet students is AP Chem which is a little confusing.

Not really. The magnet electives are limited to magnet kids, and kids who have exhausted their other options.

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Anonymous wrote:In 11th and 12th grade, can kids take other, non-magnet electives for the magnet electives that are marked on the website? Like can they take 2 years of computer science and rather than magnet electives take more liberal arts electives? I understand they need 4 years of math and 3 years of science to graduate.

https://old.mbhs.edu/departments/magnet/courses.php

https://old.mbhs.edu/departments/magnet/ParentResources/PlanningGuideJR-SRYrs.pdf

3.5 years of magnet science electives, plus 1 year of magnet or AP science.

This is an old doc but according to this the semester 9th and 10th science classes are a full credit? Is that still the case?

Very interesting! I just looked at ParentVue for my freshman and indeed physics and biology seem to be listed as full credit classes even though they are each a semester long.