How is this legal? Would love a fed to weigh in.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:A cop ran our plates this last week because we were parked in front of a fire hydrant for 5 mins (bagel run, rain). And told us that dh's license was suspended for failure to answer a ticket that we don't remember receiving from a town that we have not driven through in 2 years. We can't reach the town. How is this a thing? We are in 2023 - how is it possible to have your license suspended over a ticket you never even knew you had and a town you cannot reach.

This is the kind of thing that makes life not actually work.

yall need to start following traffic laws in your immediate family!

sure but no idea what traffic law we even broke in this random town!
also i should add that i was iN THE CAR during the bagel run. I could have easily moved the car. cop just gave me a ticket anyway. i guess bored.

If it is possible there is an error and you never received any notice of the ticket, you're going to have to jump through the hoops to prove it.

But of course it is legal to suspend a license over unpaid tickets. There needs to be an enforcement mechanism.

And I'm not sure why you think it being a "random town" has any relevance.

relevant bc if was nyc (where we live) it would be in the system and we would be alerted.
we never received this - had no idea it existed. seems insane to suspend someone's license over something they had no idea existed. and we are organized ppl!

You think other towns do not put things "in the system" and alert you?
As I said, it is on you to track it down and prove there was an error, if there was one.

But it is most certainly legal for a state to suspend a license over an unpaid ticket.

[Anonymous]

Your NY State Driver License will be suspended if you fail to answer a ticket for a moving violation in any state except Alaska, California, Michigan, Montana, Oregon or Wisconsin. Your license will remain suspended until you answer the ticket.

https://dmv.ny.gov/tickets-received-another-state#:~:text=Your%20NY%20State%20Driver%20License,until%20you%20answer%20the%20ticket.

Wow it is such a mystery!

[Anonymous]

What does OP mean by “fed”? I assumed federal employee before reading the OP but that makes zero sense in context.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:A cop ran our plates this last week because we were parked in front of a fire hydrant for 5 mins (bagel run, rain). And told us that dh's license was suspended for failure to answer a ticket that we don't remember receiving from a town that we have not driven through in 2 years. We can't reach the town. How is this a thing? We are in 2023 - how is it possible to have your license suspended over a ticket you never even knew you had and a town you cannot reach.

This is the kind of thing that makes life not actually work.

I'm offended (as an ex high ranking fed officer) think how a "fed" could or WANT to deal with this!

Not in the mood to navigate your breaking traffic rules. We feds have enough to deal with!

-Crappy commutes
-Mice infested office buildings
-Expensive but terrible cafeterias
-Incompetent coworkers who will not leave because they will not be able to get away with they do anywhere else
-Crowded cubicles or even worse open concept offices
-Filling out timesheets every two weeks
-Required online training

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Your NY State Driver License will be suspended if you fail to answer a ticket for a moving violation in any state except Alaska, California, Michigan, Montana, Oregon or Wisconsin. Your license will remain suspended until you answer the ticket.

https://dmv.ny.gov/tickets-received-another-state#:~:text=Your%20NY%20State%20Driver%20License,until%20you%20answer%20the%20ticket.

Wow it is such a mystery!

There is it. Looks like you will have to contact the town police or look up their website to see how to pay your ticket or fight it. Best to just pay it but make sure doing that clears everything up. Oh a DH can not drive till this is taken care of…he could easily go to jail if pulled over or gets in an accident.

[Anonymous]

How can you "not reach the town?" Yiu can call their police dept or the state trooper office in the area. One of them issued the tickets. How do you think the "town" would have a record of this?

[Anonymous]

What on earth do you want us feds for? You think it is fine to block a fire hydrant because you want your bagels and it is raining. And you insist this ticket is in a "town you cannot reach"? What do you mean you can't "reach" them? Do you not have Google? Is there really no email address or phone number for anything resembling a police department or sheriff's department, or anything? I find that hard to believe. I think you haven't tried hard enough. Deal with your damn ticket.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Your NY State Driver License will be suspended if you fail to answer a ticket for a moving violation in any state except Alaska, California, Michigan, Montana, Oregon or Wisconsin. Your license will remain suspended until you answer the ticket.

https://dmv.ny.gov/tickets-received-another-state#:~:text=Your%20NY%20State%20Driver%20License,until%20you%20answer%20the%20ticket.

Wow it is such a mystery!

There is it. Looks like you will have to contact the town police or look up their website to see how to pay your ticket or fight it. Best to just pay it but make sure doing that clears everything up. Oh a DH can not drive till this is taken care of…he could easily go to jail if pulled over or gets in an accident.

Lol, you know OP's DH is out there driving right now, feeling entitled to park in front of fire hydrants any time he wants to run into a store and pick something up. Ugh.

[Anonymous]

I've posted a couple responses already. But I took a beat and thought I might offer something more helpful-

OP, I get that this is frustrating. It is a real headache to deal with. You have to track down what happened, which will likely mean a bunch of time corresponding with this "random town." That is annoying. Some venting would be warranted.

But I do suggest you take a little ownership here, rather than questioning the legality of......enforcing public safety laws. Many of the details you include are really not relevant. You DID do something illegal by parking in front of the hydrant. You (most likely) DID do something illegal to incur the ticket and then again by not responding to it. Rain, the need for bagels, and the fact that you were outside NYC is irrelevant.

You say this is the type of thing that "makes life not actually work." But what would REALLY not make life work is if everybody ignored tickets and blocked hydrants when it is more convenient for them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A cop ran our plates this last week because we were parked in front of a fire hydrant for 5 mins (bagel run, rain). And told us that dh's license was suspended for failure to answer a ticket that we don't remember receiving from a town that we have not driven through in 2 years. We can't reach the town. How is this a thing? We are in 2023 - how is it possible to have your license suspended over a ticket you never even knew you had and a town you cannot reach.

This is the kind of thing that makes life not actually work.

yall need to start following traffic laws in your immediate family!

sure but no idea what traffic law we even broke in this random town!
also i should add that i was iN THE CAR during the bagel run. I could have easily moved the car. cop just gave me a ticket anyway. i guess bored.

If it is possible there is an error and you never received any notice of the ticket, you're going to have to jump through the hoops to prove it.

But of course it is legal to suspend a license over unpaid tickets. There needs to be an enforcement mechanism.

And I'm not sure why you think it being a "random town" has any relevance.

relevant bc if was nyc (where we live) it would be in the system and we would be alerted.
we never received this - had no idea it existed. seems insane to suspend someone's license over something they had no idea existed. and we are organized ppl!

You think other towns do not put things "in the system" and alert you?
As I said, it is on you to track it down and prove there was an error, if there was one.

But it is most certainly legal for a state to suspend a license over an unpaid ticket.

but is it not weird that you have no idea?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is always illegal to block a fire hydrant. There's no "five minute bagel run" exception.

This. You sound really entitled. The cop gave you a ticket because he deserved ticket, not because he was bored. Your reaction to this makes me think that you’ve done other things that could explain the quandary you are now in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I've posted a couple responses already. But I took a beat and thought I might offer something more helpful-

OP, I get that this is frustrating. It is a real headache to deal with. You have to track down what happened, which will likely mean a bunch of time corresponding with this "random town." That is annoying. Some venting would be warranted.

But I do suggest you take a little ownership here, rather than questioning the legality of......enforcing public safety laws. Many of the details you include are really not relevant. You DID do something illegal by parking in front of the hydrant. You (most likely) DID do something illegal to incur the ticket and then again by not responding to it. Rain, the need for bagels, and the fact that you were outside NYC is irrelevant.

You say this is the type of thing that "makes life not actually work." But what would REALLY not make life work is if everybody ignored tickets and blocked hydrants when it is more convenient for them.

op - i am not questioning blocking a hydrant. as i said i was in the car so could easily have moved the car if anyone needed the hydrant.
and the second thing - we could have done something terrible or nothing at all and the point is i have ZERO idea and could have lived my whole life not knowing because no one told us at any point that we had incurred a ticket. that is what i think is weird.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A cop ran our plates this last week because we were parked in front of a fire hydrant for 5 mins (bagel run, rain). And told us that dh's license was suspended for failure to answer a ticket that we don't remember receiving from a town that we have not driven through in 2 years. We can't reach the town. How is this a thing? We are in 2023 - how is it possible to have your license suspended over a ticket you never even knew you had and a town you cannot reach.

This is the kind of thing that makes life not actually work.

I'm offended (as an ex high ranking fed officer) think how a "fed" could or WANT to deal with this!

Not in the mood to navigate your breaking traffic rules. We feds have enough to deal with!

-Crappy commutes
-Mice infested office buildings
-Expensive but terrible cafeterias
-Incompetent coworkers who will not leave because they will not be able to get away with they do anywhere else
-Crowded cubicles or even worse open concept offices
-Filling out timesheets every two weeks
-Required online training

But you as a fed are OK answering a traffic dispute!?????????

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Your NY State Driver License will be suspended if you fail to answer a ticket for a moving violation in any state except Alaska, California, Michigan, Montana, Oregon or Wisconsin. Your license will remain suspended until you answer the ticket.

https://dmv.ny.gov/tickets-received-another-state#:~:text=Your%20NY%20State%20Driver%20License,until%20you%20answer%20the%20ticket.

Wow it is such a mystery!

There is it. Looks like you will have to contact the town police or look up their website to see how to pay your ticket or fight it. Best to just pay it but make sure doing that clears everything up. Oh a DH can not drive till this is taken care of…he could easily go to jail if pulled over or gets in an accident.

Lol, you know OP's DH is out there driving right now, feeling entitled to park in front of fire hydrants any time he wants to run into a store and pick something up. Ugh.

what is the worst case scenario here?
someone needs a hydrant and then they can easily get to it because we were IN THE CAR.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How can you "not reach the town?" Yiu can call their police dept or the state trooper office in the area. One of them issued the tickets. How do you think the "town" would have a record of this?

the police gave us a number to call which is 'the town' and they are just ignoring and not answering. no idea.