| I think the SAT needs to be over 1500 to have a chance. 1450 is pretty low. |
| It’s a reach but worth a shot if not applying to those ultra competitive programs. |
| What is the uw GPA? Michigan reconfigures all GPAs on a 4.0 scale |
Michigan wouldn’t accept 22 students from any OOS school if there weren’t a high amount of matriculation. |
What's "OOO"? |
| Nor worth the $70,000 price tag for OOS. Gouging.. |
Which comparable private is worth 70K? |
Then don’t pay it. It’s a simple matter of supply and demand. It’s only gouging if there are no other choices. |
+1 My 4.0 unwgpa, 4.9w wgpa, 1580 SAT DC was waitlisted, CS major. A friend of theirs with similar stats was accepted as an Engineering major. |
For out of state students, it is essentially a single digit admit rate. |
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definitely much much easier than UVA if you are from NOVA
UMich is a great school, but is not worth >$70K/year OOS tuition. My kid attends UVA with $20K/year after receiving a $20K scholarship. She withdrew her application the next day after getting into UVA, mainly due to the $50K difference. Actually, for four years, the difference goes up to $200K. No college (perhaps, except for Harvard, MIT, Stanford, Princeton, or Yale) justifies $200K.
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Michigan is now $82K OOS. https://finaid.umich.edu/getting-started/estimating-costs |
They will keep raising the price until OOS demand cools. At that price point and selectivity, might as well try for Columbia or Stanford instead because Michigan is behaving like they are direct peers in attracting your child. Take them at their word. If it’s as hard to get into as an Ivy, and costs what an Ivy does, but it doesn’t give financial aid like an Ivy or offer everything Yale could, then it’s not logical to chase it. I think super flagships with national brands can definitely command a premium over in-state flagships but “yeah it’s the same as Princeton money and admission wise” shows just how frenzied the demand levels are. If you live in Virginia is it really worth the 2x price tag versus UVA, plus UVA has 2/3 of seats reserved for Virginians so your chances are much much better. |
$82 K looks like the price of grad school from that chart. |
OP here. I have 2 kids and both kids not excited about UVA. My higher stat kid should be able to get into UVA but is aiming higher. My lower stat kid is the one who likes UMich. I don’t think he would get into UVA but would not want to go there even if he did get in. |