Boundary Study Townhalls - first one starts now

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think DC's mayor and her staff believe that she ignores the views of privilege hoarders to her peril. I think they are embarrassed to give in to segregationist views, but do so because they know how what these people really want.

The left-of-limousine liberals in DC say a lot, get listened to little, and I think DC government realizes they aren't here in big numbers, though they can vote in CMs like Lewis George.

What happens is that educated middle income parents who really need good public schools and can't afford private get shafted. Our needs don't ever rate because we're not important enough that we need to be satisfied and no politician gets virtue points for ensuring our children are stimulated and safe in school. We're the ones who get sent away with "your kids will be fine..."

[Anonymous]

The most influential people living in DC send their kids to private school, so you’re right, there isn’t much sway to change the disregard for certain kids. Mediocrity is success for them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:.

What happens is that educated middle income parents who really need good public schools and can't afford private get shafted. Our needs don't ever rate because we're not important enough that we need to be satisfied and no politician gets virtue points for ensuring our children are stimulated and safe in school. We're the ones who get sent away with "your kids will be fine..."

100% right. And, as a former DCPS teacher in a Cap Hill middle school, that’s verbatim how admin and teachers discuss IB kids. There’s a reason I live in Virginia.

Public schools, especially DCPS, is like an emergency room in constant triage mode. Unless you’re bleeding out, we can’t pay attention to you. I hate it, but I had to approach it like that too.

So… *shrug*? Either sit in the waiting room with an ice pack or move bc it’s not changing anytime soon. Those attitudes are entrenched.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:.

What happens is that educated middle income parents who really need good public schools and can't afford private get shafted. Our needs don't ever rate because we're not important enough that we need to be satisfied and no politician gets virtue points for ensuring our children are stimulated and safe in school. We're the ones who get sent away with "your kids will be fine..."

100% right. And, as a former DCPS teacher in a Cap Hill middle school, that’s verbatim how admin and teachers discuss IB kids. There’s a reason I live in Virginia.

Public schools, especially DCPS, is like an emergency room in constant triage mode. Unless you’re bleeding out, we can’t pay attention to you. I hate it, but I had to approach it like that too.

So… *shrug*? Either sit in the waiting room with an ice pack or move bc it’s not changing anytime soon. Those attitudes are entrenched.

You hear this all of the time from CC and Shepard Park peeps - we earned our passport to Ward 3, Brightwood and Petworth - you’ll be fine, keep it moving. So it’s not just coming from the mayor.

[Anonymous]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/09/30/dc-school-boundary-study/

Bancroft and Shepherd parents getting called out, great. The Mt. Pleasant mother whose kids are in private school and whining b/c she may not be able to send her kids to J-R is super gross.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:.

What happens is that educated middle income parents who really need good public schools and can't afford private get shafted. Our needs don't ever rate because we're not important enough that we need to be satisfied and no politician gets virtue points for ensuring our children are stimulated and safe in school. We're the ones who get sent away with "your kids will be fine..."

100% right. And, as a former DCPS teacher in a Cap Hill middle school, that’s verbatim how admin and teachers discuss IB kids. There’s a reason I live in Virginia.

Public schools, especially DCPS, is like an emergency room in constant triage mode. Unless you’re bleeding out, we can’t pay attention to you. I hate it, but I had to approach it like that too.

So… *shrug*? Either sit in the waiting room with an ice pack or move bc it’s not changing anytime soon. Those attitudes are entrenched.

You hear this all of the time from CC and Shepard Park peeps - we earned our passport to Ward 3, Brightwood and Petworth - you’ll be fine, keep it moving. So it’s not just coming from the mayor.

I don't understand the folks that want to push Shepherd to Coolidge. Coolidge is slated to be more over-crowded than Jackson Reed. Anyone that continues that narrative is doing so for racial motivations IMO because it doesn't make sense with the numbers. What they should have done was made space at Walter Reed for a new middle and/or high for Shepherd and Lafayette. Lost opportunity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:.

What happens is that educated middle income parents who really need good public schools and can't afford private get shafted. Our needs don't ever rate because we're not important enough that we need to be satisfied and no politician gets virtue points for ensuring our children are stimulated and safe in school. We're the ones who get sent away with "your kids will be fine..."

100% right. And, as a former DCPS teacher in a Cap Hill middle school, that’s verbatim how admin and teachers discuss IB kids. There’s a reason I live in Virginia.

Public schools, especially DCPS, is like an emergency room in constant triage mode. Unless you’re bleeding out, we can’t pay attention to you. I hate it, but I had to approach it like that too.

So… *shrug*? Either sit in the waiting room with an ice pack or move bc it’s not changing anytime soon. Those attitudes are entrenched.

You hear this all of the time from CC and Shepard Park peeps - we earned our passport to Ward 3, Brightwood and Petworth - you’ll be fine, keep it moving. So it’s not just coming from the mayor.

I don't understand the folks that want to push Shepherd to Coolidge. Coolidge is slated to be more over-crowded than Jackson Reed. Anyone that continues that narrative is doing so for racial motivations IMO because it doesn't make sense with the numbers. What they should have done was made space at Walter Reed for a new middle and/or high for Shepherd and Lafayette. Lost opportunity.

So, cuckoo. The people pushing it the loudest are POC and MC parents in Ward 4 who are sick off the antics of CC/SP parents and not having a strong cohort within Ward 4 because CC/SP quite literally think they are better than everyone else. Resources follow UMC parents. It’s not rocket science. Coolidge is majority OOB, so the boundary recommendations could include caping OOB across the board. City can add seats at Wells/Coolidge if they want to with buildouts/trailers.

[Anonymous]

Push Shepherd to Coolidge and the south part of the Coolidge catchment further south to the underenrolled schools, just like Hardy is being pushed south to MacA. There are plenty of open seats at existing schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/09/30/dc-school-boundary-study/

Bancroft and Shepherd parents getting called out, great. The Mt. Pleasant mother whose kids are in private school and whining b/c she may not be able to send her kids to J-R is super gross.

+1

She lives in boundary for Bancroft and chooses to send her kids to private until
HS and is ‘fretting’ about not having JR? Boo pay for private HS too if you are that worried.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Push Shepherd to Coolidge and the south part of the Coolidge catchment further south to the underenrolled schools, just like Hardy is being pushed south to MacA. There are plenty of open seats at existing schools.

Or instead of pushing anyone EOTP which the city has clearly stated they don't want, push another school in W3 to Hardy and MacArthur. Easier pull to swallow sending kids to equal performing schools don't you think? Unless you really are determined to make JR and Deal all white.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Push Shepherd to Coolidge and the south part of the Coolidge catchment further south to the underenrolled schools, just like Hardy is being pushed south to MacA. There are plenty of open seats at existing schools.

Or instead of pushing anyone EOTP which the city has clearly stated they don't want, push another school in W3 to Hardy and MacArthur. Easier pull to swallow sending kids to equal performing schools don't you think? Unless you really are determined to make JR and Deal all white.

Push some EOTP students south and you’ll get a higher performing school. Unless you don’t want to go where there are so many OOB kids? Why is that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Push Shepherd to Coolidge and the south part of the Coolidge catchment further south to the underenrolled schools, just like Hardy is being pushed south to MacA. There are plenty of open seats at existing schools.

Or instead of pushing anyone EOTP which the city has clearly stated they don't want, push another school in W3 to Hardy and MacArthur. Easier pull to swallow sending kids to equal performing schools don't you think? Unless you really are determined to make JR and Deal all white.

Push some EOTP students south and you’ll get a higher performing school. Unless you don’t want to go where there are so many OOB kids? Why is that?

I don't live in Shepherd Park but your logic makes zero sense and you know it. Shepherd's 40 kids will make zero difference at Coolidge (already at 100% capacity). So you'd need to send 250 kids from Coolidge to Brookland middle and Dunbar. Then you can send the 40 kids from Shepherd and the 200 kids from Lafayette. Yes. I agree, that could be tenable. But now you got an under-enrolled Deal and JR, same as Hardy and MacArthur. It would make more sense to take some kids from Janney and send them to Hardy and MacArthur.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Push Shepherd to Coolidge and the south part of the Coolidge catchment further south to the underenrolled schools, just like Hardy is being pushed south to MacA. There are plenty of open seats at existing schools.

Or instead of pushing anyone EOTP which the city has clearly stated they don't want, push another school in W3 to Hardy and MacArthur. Easier pull to swallow sending kids to equal performing schools don't you think? Unless you really are determined to make JR and Deal all white.

Push some EOTP students south and you’ll get a higher performing school. Unless you don’t want to go where there are so many OOB kids? Why is that?

I don't live in Shepherd Park but your logic makes zero sense and you know it. Shepherd's 40 kids will make zero difference at Coolidge (already at 100% capacity). So you'd need to send 250 kids from Coolidge to Brookland middle and Dunbar. Then you can send the 40 kids from Shepherd and the 200 kids from Lafayette. Yes. I agree, that could be tenable. But now you got an under-enrolled Deal and JR, same as Hardy and MacArthur. It would make more sense to take some kids from Janney and send them to Hardy and MacArthur.

Also Deal/JR to Hardy/MA, you're more likely to have buy-in. With moving kids from Wells/Coolidge to Brookland/Dunbar and then Deal/JR to Wells/Coolidge, you're pissing off and possibly losing 450 families vs 200 from Janney (or insert W3 neighborhood). Also W3 going to Hardy/MA is as close to even trade as you can get. The other scenario, everyone goes down in quality. Not to mention, you now have an all white Deal/JR.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Push Shepherd to Coolidge and the south part of the Coolidge catchment further south to the underenrolled schools, just like Hardy is being pushed south to MacA. There are plenty of open seats at existing schools.

Or instead of pushing anyone EOTP which the city has clearly stated they don't want, push another school in W3 to Hardy and MacArthur. Easier pull to swallow sending kids to equal performing schools don't you think? Unless you really are determined to make JR and Deal all white.

Push some EOTP students south and you’ll get a higher performing school. Unless you don’t want to go where there are so many OOB kids? Why is that?

I don't live in Shepherd Park but your logic makes zero sense and you know it. Shepherd's 40 kids will make zero difference at Coolidge (already at 100% capacity). So you'd need to send 250 kids from Coolidge to Brookland middle and Dunbar. Then you can send the 40 kids from Shepherd and the 200 kids from Lafayette. Yes. I agree, that could be tenable. But now you got an under-enrolled Deal and JR, same as Hardy and MacArthur. It would make more sense to take some kids from Janney and send them to Hardy and MacArthur.

Well, honestly your logic makes zero sense, and we all know it. If sending a strong cohort from Shepherd a school which is only 51% AA and 30% white to Wells wouldn’t make a difference academically - it also makes zero difference routing then out of their Ward 3 because they have economic privilege to influence politicians. Their numbers do nothing for diversity. They are no better than Lafayette parents in this regard. I actually live in Ward 4 (it sounds like you don’t) and I watch how all that resources flow to SES/Laf- and how destabilizing the lottery has been because everyone tries to lottery into Shepherd for the upper grades.

[Anonymous]

“I think we should send SES and Lafayette kids to the moon!” -PP, probably