is the word/phrase 'baby mama' racist?

[Anonymous]

Yes. It means "baby's mama" in AAVE. The "'s" is dropped in AAVE, so you are using a term coined by black people to talk about a situation that is looked down on in our society.

Would you use this term at work? Obviously not. Why? Because it is a little offensive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would say depends on who is using it and the context. I notice that it’s only used for black people and often with a negative connotation.

I see it in medical contexts where it is factual, not racist or with a negative connotation.

LOL so like in the chart, the MD makes a note that the patient is a "baby mama" right next to where they write "they leg is broke" or what?

[Anonymous]

no

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would say depends on who is using it and the context. I notice that it’s only used for black people and often with a negative connotation.

I see it in medical contexts where it is factual, not racist or with a negative connotation.

LOL so like in the chart, the MD makes a note that the patient is a "baby mama" right next to where they write "they leg is broke" or what?

LOL was wondering too! Instead of "biological mother/father"?

Do they also note when people are pergnarant? Pregaro? Pregernant? dammit knocked up?

[Anonymous]

Tom Brady's first child was with an actress. She is the mother of his child.

Richard Sherman (black football player). He has a baby mama even though he married her later.

It is another instance of who says it and how it is intended. Tina Fey and Amy Poehler had a movie called Baby Mama. It was supposed to be Hah-larious because, you know, they are so white and quirky and professional, and Baby Mama's are usually in reference to a Black woman (assumed to be the opposite of these characteristics).

Come to think of it, most of their humor was just this schtick of white people saying or doing things that (they think) are stereotypically black. It's just so funny because they are white and would NEVER be like that.

It's another instance of co-opting a phrase to make fun of a culture.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:it's just english.

It’s really not.

It is one of those terms that I have resolved to never utter under any circumstances.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No, it's more classist.

All the baby mamas I know are poor white women.

What about that fathers?

[Anonymous]

Kind of OT, but this thread reminded me that when DD was 3 or 4 she had an American Girl bitty baby doll that sort of looked like her (mixed race, Asian/white). She named it Baby (her own name). At a yard sale, she got a baby doll that was black. Her name for it: Baby Mama.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, it's more classist.

All the baby mamas I know are poor white women.

What about that fathers?

They are baby daddies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would say depends on who is using it and the context. I notice that it’s only used for black people and often with a negative connotation.

I don't think it's solely used for black people anymore. At one point in time, yes. I think it has transcended race and thus is no longer racist. It does seem potentially classist.

This is correct.

Classist, yes. Racist, no. It’s used across all races, IMO.

[Black woman]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Kind of OT, but this thread reminded me that when DD was 3 or 4 she had an American Girl bitty baby doll that sort of looked like her (mixed race, Asian/white). She named it Baby (her own name). At a yard sale, she got a baby doll that was black. Her name for it: Baby Mama.

I bet you love telling this story, huh?

[Anonymous]

https://genius.com/B-rock-and-the-bizz-my-baby-daddy-lyrics

Who remembers this song?

Who dat is? That just my baby daddy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kind of OT, but this thread reminded me that when DD was 3 or 4 she had an American Girl bitty baby doll that sort of looked like her (mixed race, Asian/white). She named it Baby (her own name). At a yard sale, she got a baby doll that was black. Her name for it: Baby Mama.

I bet you love telling this story, huh?

Right and just and to clarify that her mixed race daughter was Asian/White, as if that little tidbit was germane at all to the story…. you’re on an anonymous board and you still felt the need to let everyone know what you can’t be a racist because… omygod I have the best story ever you all are going to think it’s so cute… my mixed but not black, just to be clear….she’s not black, I Asian and my hubs is white…. silly, she called her black doll baby mama… oh she’s just the cutest… awkward silence from
the non-idiots and uproarious laughter from a the dolts.

Don’t ever tell that story again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Tom Brady's first child was with an actress. She is the mother of his child.

Richard Sherman (black football player). He has a baby mama even though he married her later.

It is another instance of who says it and how it is intended. Tina Fey and Amy Poehler had a movie called Baby Mama. It was supposed to be Hah-larious because, you know, they are so white and quirky and professional, and Baby Mama's are usually in reference to a Black woman (assumed to be the opposite of these characteristics).

Come to think of it, most of their humor was just this schtick of white people saying or doing things that (they think) are stereotypically black. It's just so funny because they are white and would NEVER be like that.

It's another instance of co-opting a phrase to make fun of a culture.

According to the Internet, Richard Sherman had a baby with someone while was and still married to someone else.

https://blacksportsonline.com/2022/05/richard-shermans-baby-momma-reina-westberg-claims-his-wife-ashley-moss-approved-and-encouraged-their-affair/

That doesn't square with your version.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it’s more classist and makes the person seem trashy (both the speaker and the “baby mama” being referenced).

Nope. Not classist at all. Purely racist. Myself and other upper class black friends have had the term used on us. We are all well educated and aren’t at all giving off a trashy vibe.