Homeless(?) young guy who hangs out at Turtle Park?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The poor parents.

Who probably either caused some of his issues or isn’t getting him proper help?

This is horrible and I hope you don’t have a family member with mental illness or addiction issues, because you’d see how hard this is and why blaming anyone is unfair.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The poor parents.

Who probably either caused some of his issues or isn’t getting him proper help?

This is horrible and I hope you don’t have a family member with mental illness or addiction issues, because you’d see how hard this is and why blaming anyone is unfair.

I have both. I would go out on a limb to say my toxic family member’s parenting choices absolutely led to the drug use that led to the addiction. And also, my other family member will forever care for her mentally ill child. He’s well cared for, receives help, and doesn’t live on a park bench.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It couldn’t be more obvious that OP’s real concern - and the concern of many other posters living in Upper Caucasia - isn’t the mental health or “sad” condition of the “poor young man.” It’s that they don’t want him in the park near their precious children.

What does it say about you that you think it’s more than acceptable for a human being with clear mental challenges to live in a park, peeing in bushes? People care more about homeless dogs than people and it’s truly disgusting.

NP here. Why is OP concerned about this particular homeless person? There are many, yes even in the bubble of upper nw dc. I, too, would guess the underlying priority for the post is that she doesn’t want this guy at turtle park vs her priority being concerned about his welfare. But what do I know of OP’s motivation (just like none of us know this young person’s background nor his family’s for that matter, all of which are being speculated on here).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The poor parents.

Who probably either caused some of his issues or isn’t getting him proper help?

This is horrible and I hope you don’t have a family member with mental illness or addiction issues, because you’d see how hard this is and why blaming anyone is unfair.

I have both. I would go out on a limb to say my toxic family member’s parenting choices absolutely led to the drug use that led to the addiction. And also, my other family member will forever care for her mentally ill child. He’s well cared for, receives help, and doesn’t live on a park bench.

Then you should know a lot more about both illnesses than to use your anedotal examples and blame the parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It couldn’t be more obvious that OP’s real concern - and the concern of many other posters living in Upper Caucasia - isn’t the mental health or “sad” condition of the “poor young man.” It’s that they don’t want him in the park near their precious children.

What does it say about you that you think it’s more than acceptable for a human being with clear mental challenges to live in a park, peeing in bushes? People care more about homeless dogs than people and it’s truly disgusting.

NP here. Why is OP concerned about this particular homeless person? There are many, yes even in the bubble of upper nw dc. I, too, would guess the underlying priority for the post is that she doesn’t want this guy at turtle park vs her priority being concerned about his welfare. But what do I know of OP’s motivation (just like none of us know this young person’s background nor his family’s for that matter, all of which are being speculated on here).

I live in a neighborhood that is definitely not Upper Caucasia, but we wouldn’t allow a homeless person to set up camp in our neighborhood park that has children’s playgrounds. We learned during covid what this leads to with encampments. I would call 911 or the behavioral health line every time I saw this guy passed out. In our park people basically make anyone who sets up camp move on by telling them they can’t do that. Homeless people like anyone else can sit on a bench and use the park but they can’t set up camp, pass out, threaten, deal drugs, use drugs …

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It couldn’t be more obvious that OP’s real concern - and the concern of many other posters living in Upper Caucasia - isn’t the mental health or “sad” condition of the “poor young man.” It’s that they don’t want him in the park near their precious children.

What does it say about you that you think it’s more than acceptable for a human being with clear mental challenges to live in a park, peeing in bushes? People care more about homeless dogs than people and it’s truly disgusting.

NP here. Why is OP concerned about this particular homeless person? There are many, yes even in the bubble of upper nw dc. I, too, would guess the underlying priority for the post is that she doesn’t want this guy at turtle park vs her priority being concerned about his welfare. But what do I know of OP’s motivation (just like none of us know this young person’s background nor his family’s for that matter, all of which are being speculated on here).

I think it’s safe to say nobody, including YOU, wants a man (homeless or not) whipping out his penis to pee in you and your children’s presence. Or is it ok because he’s homeless, you’d just look the other way? Got it. You’d just explain to your kids why society allows this man to pee in a bush at the park? You’d just all cast a blind eye, we know. Ignore.

And those of us who see the problem for what it is are classist “Upper Caucasia”. That’s fine, you can put the blame on us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It couldn’t be more obvious that OP’s real concern - and the concern of many other posters living in Upper Caucasia - isn’t the mental health or “sad” condition of the “poor young man.” It’s that they don’t want him in the park near their precious children.

Seems like a reasonable concern to me. What troubles you about it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It couldn’t be more obvious that OP’s real concern - and the concern of many other posters living in Upper Caucasia - isn’t the mental health or “sad” condition of the “poor young man.” It’s that they don’t want him in the park near their precious children.

What does it say about you that you think it’s more than acceptable for a human being with clear mental challenges to live in a park, peeing in bushes? People care more about homeless dogs than people and it’s truly disgusting.

No, what’s “truly disgusting” is that OP and others aren’t posting about helping the homeless and/or mentally ill in general because they truly care about the issue - they just want this one guy out of their lilly white park.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It couldn’t be more obvious that OP’s real concern - and the concern of many other posters living in Upper Caucasia - isn’t the mental health or “sad” condition of the “poor young man.” It’s that they don’t want him in the park near their precious children.

Seems like a reasonable concern to me. What troubles you about it?

PP you quoted should head to Turtle Park and invite this man to stay with her at her non-Upper Caucasia? house (or does she too live in Upper Caucasia? It’s hard to tell the way she bashes it), or at the very least, give him a key so he can use her bathroom facilities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It couldn’t be more obvious that OP’s real concern - and the concern of many other posters living in Upper Caucasia - isn’t the mental health or “sad” condition of the “poor young man.” It’s that they don’t want him in the park near their precious children.

What does it say about you that you think it’s more than acceptable for a human being with clear mental challenges to live in a park, peeing in bushes? People care more about homeless dogs than people and it’s truly disgusting.

NP here. Why is OP concerned about this particular homeless person? There are many, yes even in the bubble of upper nw dc. I, too, would guess the underlying priority for the post is that she doesn’t want this guy at turtle park vs her priority being concerned about his welfare. But what do I know of OP’s motivation (just like none of us know this young person’s background nor his family’s for that matter, all of which are being speculated on here).

I live in a neighborhood that is definitely not Upper Caucasia, but we wouldn’t allow a homeless person to set up camp in our neighborhood park that has children’s playgrounds. We learned during covid what this leads to with encampments. I would call 911 or the behavioral health line every time I saw this guy passed out. In our park people basically make anyone who sets up camp move on by telling them they can’t do that. Homeless people like anyone else can sit on a bench and use the park but they can’t set up camp, pass out, threaten, deal drugs, use drugs …

There is nothing, absolutely nothing, suggesting that this guy is doing anything like that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It couldn’t be more obvious that OP’s real concern - and the concern of many other posters living in Upper Caucasia - isn’t the mental health or “sad” condition of the “poor young man.” It’s that they don’t want him in the park near their precious children.

What does it say about you that you think it’s more than acceptable for a human being with clear mental challenges to live in a park, peeing in bushes? People care more about homeless dogs than people and it’s truly disgusting.

No, what’s “truly disgusting” is that OP and others aren’t posting about helping the homeless and/or mentally ill in general because they truly care about the issue - they just want this one guy out of their lilly white park.

So… maybe go back and read the post again?

[Anonymous]

Can we just be honest? I’d rephrase OP’s post as follows:

There is a young guy who wanders around and often sleeps at our local lilly white park who looks either homeless or mentally ill. He makes me nervous and I don’t like the looks of him. Is there anything I can do to get him to go elsewhere so I don’t have to look at him?

[Anonymous]

Shock of all shockers OP...white people can be homeless too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It couldn’t be more obvious that OP’s real concern - and the concern of many other posters living in Upper Caucasia - isn’t the mental health or “sad” condition of the “poor young man.” It’s that they don’t want him in the park near their precious children.

What does it say about you that you think it’s more than acceptable for a human being with clear mental challenges to live in a park, peeing in bushes? People care more about homeless dogs than people and it’s truly disgusting.

NP here. Why is OP concerned about this particular homeless person? There are many, yes even in the bubble of upper nw dc. I, too, would guess the underlying priority for the post is that she doesn’t want this guy at turtle park vs her priority being concerned about his welfare. But what do I know of OP’s motivation (just like none of us know this young person’s background nor his family’s for that matter, all of which are being speculated on here).

I live in a neighborhood that is definitely not Upper Caucasia, but we wouldn’t allow a homeless person to set up camp in our neighborhood park that has children’s playgrounds. We learned during covid what this leads to with encampments. I would call 911 or the behavioral health line every time I saw this guy passed out. In our park people basically make anyone who sets up camp move on by telling them they can’t do that. Homeless people like anyone else can sit on a bench and use the park but they can’t set up camp, pass out, threaten, deal drugs, use drugs …

There is nothing, absolutely nothing, suggesting that this guy is doing anything like that.

OP says he passes out near the playground and exposes his genetalia near children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can we just be honest? I’d rephrase OP’s post as follows:

There is a young guy who wanders around and often sleeps at our local lilly white park who looks either homeless or mentally ill. He makes me nervous and I don’t like the looks of him. Is there anything I can do to get him to go elsewhere so I don’t have to look at him?

I’ll see your post and raise you:

There is a young guy who wanders around and often sleeps at our ghetto park in the projects who looks either homeless or mentally ill. He makes me nervous and I don’t like the looks of him. Is there anything I can do to get him to go elsewhere so I don’t have to look at him?

What the hell does it matter? So you’re saying it’s OK for a mentally ill human being to sleep in the elements and pee in foliage when he’s in the slums, because that’s expected? Lower income children should expect to bear witness to this in their parks? Is that what you’re saying? Lower income women coming home from work should have to pass this shady looking character, whose motives she doesn’t know, because she should expect to see him there, she’s poor after all.

Is that what you’re saying?

Or are you agreeing with all of us that mentally ill people don’t belong ANYWHERE, and that they need proper help. Which is what OP explicitly asked for in the OP.