Will crime drop now that school's finally started?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These kids need structure

+1 Structure, mentoring, opportunities to volunteer/help others, praise for effort, and consequences for breaking laws.

They needs parents who give a damn, but obviously that's not going to happen anytime soon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These kids need structure

+1 Structure, mentoring, opportunities to volunteer/help others, praise for effort, and consequences for breaking laws.

They needs parents who give a damn, but obviously that's not going to happen anytime soon.

+1000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are you under the impression that all crimes are committed by minors?

All, no.

Many, yes.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/teen-killed-outside-mcdonald-s-in-sweet-and-sour-sauce-dispute-police-say/ar-AA1fUgzb

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you under the impression that all crimes are committed by minors?

No, but a good chunk of them are in DC.

The vast majority of crimes in DC are committed by adults:

https://twitter.com/dccrimefacts/status/1689065296907075584

That's a little misleading, although yes, adults commit more crimes because there are more adults than juveniles. Only 19% of DC residents are under 18, but the crime cohort is usually ages 11-17, and that's an even smaller percentage.

In addition, are these stats lumping all crimes together? If you isolate things like carjackings, the numbers might be a bit closer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you under the impression that all crimes are committed by minors?

No, but a good chunk of them are in DC.

The vast majority of crimes in DC are committed by adults:

https://twitter.com/dccrimefacts/status/1689065296907075584

That's a little misleading, although yes, adults commit more crimes because there are more adults than juveniles. Only 19% of DC residents are under 18, but the crime cohort is usually ages 11-17, and that's an even smaller percentage.

In addition, are these stats lumping all crimes together? If you isolate things like carjackings, the numbers might be a bit closer.

+1 for carjackings, majority committed by juveniles

[Anonymous]

I don't think school starting will slow down these Rhodes Scholars out there carjacking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't think school starting will slow down these Rhodes Scholars out there carjacking.

Whether these kids are getting an education, school provides kids with a place to go. There are kids on the bubble who will show up to school if it's in session, but if it's not, they'll hang out with whomever is around, including older kids and those who have effectively dropped out.

DCPS also makes more effort to track down and enroll/assist kids they've flagged in the system as at risk during this back to school period. So right now, these parents or guardians are getting more calls/visits from the school, outreach coordinators, CPS, etc., and that can be enough to get a parent/guardian to lean more heavily on a kid to go to school.

You can roll your eyes all you want, but kids in school absolutely results in fewer kids committing crimes, which is better for both the kids and everyone else.

I wish there had been a little more attention to that fact during the pandemic. A lot of people lived in a fantasy land where there were simply no negative externalities from closing schools for as long as we did. I'd like to think some of those people have wised up, but magical thinking can be hard to break through.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think school starting will slow down these Rhodes Scholars out there carjacking.

Whether these kids are getting an education, school provides kids with a place to go. There are kids on the bubble who will show up to school if it's in session, but if it's not, they'll hang out with whomever is around, including older kids and those who have effectively dropped out.

DCPS also makes more effort to track down and enroll/assist kids they've flagged in the system as at risk during this back to school period. So right now, these parents or guardians are getting more calls/visits from the school, outreach coordinators, CPS, etc., and that can be enough to get a parent/guardian to lean more heavily on a kid to go to school.

You can roll your eyes all you want, but kids in school absolutely results in fewer kids committing crimes, which is better for both the kids and everyone else.

I wish there had been a little more attention to that fact during the pandemic. A lot of people lived in a fantasy land where there were simply no negative externalities from closing schools for as long as we did. I'd like to think some of those people have wised up, but magical thinking can be hard to break through.

Curious how DC compares to other cities as we know comparing DC to states is never an appropriate comparison.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think school starting will slow down these Rhodes Scholars out there carjacking.

Whether these kids are getting an education, school provides kids with a place to go. There are kids on the bubble who will show up to school if it's in session, but if it's not, they'll hang out with whomever is around, including older kids and those who have effectively dropped out.

DCPS also makes more effort to track down and enroll/assist kids they've flagged in the system as at risk during this back to school period. So right now, these parents or guardians are getting more calls/visits from the school, outreach coordinators, CPS, etc., and that can be enough to get a parent/guardian to lean more heavily on a kid to go to school.

You can roll your eyes all you want, but kids in school absolutely results in fewer kids committing crimes, which is better for both the kids and everyone else.

I wish there had been a little more attention to that fact during the pandemic. A lot of people lived in a fantasy land where there were simply no negative externalities from closing schools for as long as we did. I'd like to think some of those people have wised up, but magical thinking can be hard to break through.

Curious how DC compares to other cities as we know comparing DC to states is never an appropriate comparison.

Increase is misleading if the other places have higher absentee issues and it just didn’t rise last year it looks great.

If DC had historically low absenteeism but had an increase it looks bad even if it’s lower than other areas.

[Anonymous]

"Will crime drop now that school is back?"

It depends. In some places, perhaps the answer is yes. In Tenleytown in NW, the answer is unfortunately and definitely no. There always seems to be an uptick in crime and disorder when some of the (formerly) Wilson students return to the neighborhood, particularly in the commercial area around Wisconsin Avenue and the Metro area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:These kids need structure

You mean those wilding youths?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think school starting will slow down these Rhodes Scholars out there carjacking.

Whether these kids are getting an education, school provides kids with a place to go. There are kids on the bubble who will show up to school if it's in session, but if it's not, they'll hang out with whomever is around, including older kids and those who have effectively dropped out.

DCPS also makes more effort to track down and enroll/assist kids they've flagged in the system as at risk during this back to school period. So right now, these parents or guardians are getting more calls/visits from the school, outreach coordinators, CPS, etc., and that can be enough to get a parent/guardian to lean more heavily on a kid to go to school.

You can roll your eyes all you want, but kids in school absolutely results in fewer kids committing crimes, which is better for both the kids and everyone else.

I wish there had been a little more attention to that fact during the pandemic. A lot of people lived in a fantasy land where there were simply no negative externalities from closing schools for as long as we did. I'd like to think some of those people have wised up, but magical thinking can be hard to break through.

Curious how DC compares to other cities as we know comparing DC to states is never an appropriate comparison.

Increase is misleading if the other places have higher absentee issues and it just didn’t rise last year it looks great.

If DC had historically low absenteeism but had an increase it looks bad even if it’s lower than other areas.

The graph shows rate in 2022 vs change from 2018 to 2022. Dc overwhelmingly has the highest rate in 22 and also the highest increase in rate.