New Commanders Stadium at Poplar Point (Ward 8)?

[Anonymous]

We need to cut the shit wth the giveaways to big sports teams. MLB, NFL, even NCAA are HUGE business. They DO NOT need tax breaks and all the other BS taxpayer funded subsidies and giveaways.

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The team will threaten to leave if they don't get their handout.

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Anonymous wrote:The team will threaten to leave if they don't get their handout.

We're supposed to sht ourselves in fear over an empty threat? No handouts. They're not going anywhere.

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Anonymous wrote:That's currently all park-type area. My biggest concern, apart from loss of waterfront park would be the traffic. If they can ensure primary game-day traffic is well managed and routed primarily on 295/395 then maybe. They definitely dropped the ball with Audi Field on traffic management and logistics. Big international games at Audi DC are a complete nightmare in SWDC and if there were an emergency and ambulances or fire equipment needed to get in, forget about it.

Poplar Point is not a park. It’s literally wasteland. Look at Google streetview. There was a chemical contamination issue there that I assume has been resolved. The site is big enough for the stadium and a riverfront park, but I think it’d only be worth doing if the city and the feds agree to put a good chunk of 295 / 395 underground so that game day traffic doesn’t mess with surface traffic and - more importantly - to remove the massive blight that that highway imposed on EOTR communities by cutting them off from the river.

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Anonymous wrote:That's currently all park-type area. My biggest concern, apart from loss of waterfront park would be the traffic. If they can ensure primary game-day traffic is well managed and routed primarily on 295/395 then maybe. They definitely dropped the ball with Audi Field on traffic management and logistics. Big international games at Audi DC are a complete nightmare in SWDC and if there were an emergency and ambulances or fire equipment needed to get in, forget about it.

Poplar Point is not a park. It’s literally wasteland. Look at Google streetview. There was a chemical contamination issue there that I assume has been resolved. The site is big enough for the stadium and a riverfront park, but I think it’d only be worth doing if the city and the feds agree to put a good chunk of 295 / 395 underground so that game day traffic doesn’t mess with surface traffic and - more importantly - to remove the massive blight that that highway imposed on EOTR communities by cutting them off from the river.

Are you thinking of the right area? Because 395 doesn't come close to Poplar Point.

[Anonymous]

Who even still likes football in this day and age, with all those head injuries. No thank you! The billionaires can go build their own stadium elsewhere.

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Anonymous wrote:Ugh no. Not in DC.

Let some other suckers pay a billionaire for a stadium that gets used 10-20 days a year.

Agree 100%. DC has no reason to pay for any portion of a football stadium in DC. 10 games a year times 80,000 fans equals 800,000 fans a year. Nats Park and Verizon Center produce twice that number at least. And, no, a new football stadium will not be used 20 times a year. Not happening. No doubt, someone will say what about concerts. BS. Not many concerts draw 80,000 fans. And DC already has Nats Park (40,000), Audi Field (20,000) and Verizon Center (20,000). And even with 20 events a year sold old out, that produces only 1.6 Million a year. Nats Park certainly draws more than that. And Verizon might as well. There is simply no demand for a super large venue in DC. An economic rationale for public money for NFL stadiums does not exist. I of course am super pleased about the Commanders' change in ownership.

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Anonymous wrote:That's currently all park-type area. My biggest concern, apart from loss of waterfront park would be the traffic. If they can ensure primary game-day traffic is well managed and routed primarily on 295/395 then maybe. They definitely dropped the ball with Audi Field on traffic management and logistics. Big international games at Audi DC are a complete nightmare in SWDC and if there were an emergency and ambulances or fire equipment needed to get in, forget about it.

Poplar Point is not a park. It’s literally wasteland. Look at Google streetview. There was a chemical contamination issue there that I assume has been resolved. The site is big enough for the stadium and a riverfront park, but I think it’d only be worth doing if the city and the feds agree to put a good chunk of 295 / 395 underground so that game day traffic doesn’t mess with surface traffic and - more importantly - to remove the massive blight that that highway imposed on EOTR communities by cutting them off from the river.

Are you thinking of the right area? Because 395 doesn't come close to Poplar Point.

The plot in question is directly north of 295 between Howard Rd SE and Anacostia Dr.. Its not Poplar Point proper since Anacostia Dr is between the plot and the river.

I don’t want DC taxpayers to financially support a new stadium, but if there will be a stadium in the city the Poplar Point site makes a lot more sense than RFK.

[Anonymous]

What's wrong with just staying at Fedex field? Who cares if the new billionaire owners don't like how it's not 100% super brand new and shiny anymore? It still works just fine for having players smash in their heads and drunk fans vomiting in the parking lot.

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Anonymous wrote:That's currently all park-type area. My biggest concern, apart from loss of waterfront park would be the traffic. If they can ensure primary game-day traffic is well managed and routed primarily on 295/395 then maybe. They definitely dropped the ball with Audi Field on traffic management and logistics. Big international games at Audi DC are a complete nightmare in SWDC and if there were an emergency and ambulances or fire equipment needed to get in, forget about it.

Poplar Point is not a park. It’s literally wasteland. Look at Google streetview. There was a chemical contamination issue there that I assume has been resolved. The site is big enough for the stadium and a riverfront park, but I think it’d only be worth doing if the city and the feds agree to put a good chunk of 295 / 395 underground so that game day traffic doesn’t mess with surface traffic and - more importantly - to remove the massive blight that that highway imposed on EOTR communities by cutting them off from the river.

Are you thinking of the right area? Because 395 doesn't come close to Poplar Point.

The plot in question is directly north of 295 between Howard Rd SE and Anacostia Dr.. Its not Poplar Point proper since Anacostia Dr is between the plot and the river.

I don’t want DC taxpayers to financially support a new stadium, but if there will be a stadium in the city the Poplar Point site makes a lot more sense than RFK.

RFK would be ok if they built it with really minimal parking and made it usable for things that aren't football. There's the Metro station right there. Want to go see a football game? Take the Metro.

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Anonymous wrote:That's currently all park-type area. My biggest concern, apart from loss of waterfront park would be the traffic. If they can ensure primary game-day traffic is well managed and routed primarily on 295/395 then maybe. They definitely dropped the ball with Audi Field on traffic management and logistics. Big international games at Audi DC are a complete nightmare in SWDC and if there were an emergency and ambulances or fire equipment needed to get in, forget about it.

Poplar Point is not a park. It’s literally wasteland. Look at Google streetview. There was a chemical contamination issue there that I assume has been resolved. The site is big enough for the stadium and a riverfront park, but I think it’d only be worth doing if the city and the feds agree to put a good chunk of 295 / 395 underground so that game day traffic doesn’t mess with surface traffic and - more importantly - to remove the massive blight that that highway imposed on EOTR communities by cutting them off from the river.

Are you thinking of the right area? Because 395 doesn't come close to Poplar Point.

The plot in question is directly north of 295 between Howard Rd SE and Anacostia Dr.. Its not Poplar Point proper since Anacostia Dr is between the plot and the river.

I don’t want DC taxpayers to financially support a new stadium, but if there will be a stadium in the city the Poplar Point site makes a lot more sense than RFK.

RFK would be ok if they built it with really minimal parking and made it usable for things that aren't football. There's the Metro station right there. Want to go see a football game? Take the Metro.

Taking the Metro is not gonna happen. Loud drunk fans will want to pull up in their pick-up truck to tailgate and trash up the surrounding neighborhood. Then vast empty parking craters most of the year. Always has been always will be with football developments.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't that the DC United plan that Fenty reneged upon?

FWIW, and I say this as a longtime D.C. United season ticketholder, reneging on that plan was the right call. No public money for private stadiums. They should have made the team pay for the infrastructure upgrades, etc., that the city paid for on Audi Field.

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Anonymous wrote:That's currently all park-type area. My biggest concern, apart from loss of waterfront park would be the traffic. If they can ensure primary game-day traffic is well managed and routed primarily on 295/395 then maybe. They definitely dropped the ball with Audi Field on traffic management and logistics. Big international games at Audi DC are a complete nightmare in SWDC and if there were an emergency and ambulances or fire equipment needed to get in, forget about it.

Poplar Point is not a park. It’s literally wasteland. Look at Google streetview. There was a chemical contamination issue there that I assume has been resolved. The site is big enough for the stadium and a riverfront park, but I think it’d only be worth doing if the city and the feds agree to put a good chunk of 295 / 395 underground so that game day traffic doesn’t mess with surface traffic and - more importantly - to remove the massive blight that that highway imposed on EOTR communities by cutting them off from the river.

Are you thinking of the right area? Because 395 doesn't come close to Poplar Point.

The plot in question is directly north of 295 between Howard Rd SE and Anacostia Dr.. Its not Poplar Point proper since Anacostia Dr is between the plot and the river.

I don’t want DC taxpayers to financially support a new stadium, but if there will be a stadium in the city the Poplar Point site makes a lot more sense than RFK.

RFK would be ok if they built it with really minimal parking and made it usable for things that aren't football. There's the Metro station right there. Want to go see a football game? Take the Metro.

Taking the Metro is not gonna happen. Loud drunk fans will want to pull up in their pick-up truck to tailgate and trash up the surrounding neighborhood. Then vast empty parking craters most of the year. Always has been always will be with football developments.

Lots of people want lots of things. Doesn't mean they get them.

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Anonymous wrote:What's wrong with just staying at Fedex field? Who cares if the new billionaire owners don't like how it's not 100% super brand new and shiny anymore? It still works just fine for having players smash in their heads and drunk fans vomiting in the parking lot.

+100

The sportball can stay in Maryland!

[Anonymous]

I actually don’t hate this idea if they can figure out the logistics of moving people in and out without cars. The land is contaminated and not suitable for housing. It will bring large scale stadium concerts back into DC - eg, Taylor Swift and Coldplay. It would anchor a slew of new development on the waterfront.

I think the big issue is how to get people to/from the stadium. You can’t do car there, it would basically shut down the entire SE quadrant every time there was an event. It would be a security nightmare.

Maybe a dedicated underground train from a remote parking lot?