Another case of misogyny .. in Italy

[Anonymous]

Apparently groping and pickpockets are normal in Italy. Be warned, tourists. It’s just their “culture.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is it legal to slap the sh!t out of someone for groping you in Italy? This is such a demoralizing ruling for women.

Italy you need to do better!

Yep. I'd be like "okay, punching in response to groping is also legal if it's for 10 seconds or less."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can women grope men too?

What happens if you grope a man for 11 seconds?

I think we all know the answer to that.

[Anonymous]

Ten seconds is actually a long time, if something you don't want is being done to you.

[Anonymous]

I thought catcalling in the US was terrible, but Italy was in a whole other league.

Everywhere we traveled I was constantly harassed by men (not just Italian).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ten seconds is actually a long time, if something you don't want is being done to you.

Ten seconds is a very long time for a groping. Many people, including victims and judges, have a terrible sense of time and don't really know how long ten seconds is on a clock.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I thought catcalling in the US was terrible, but Italy was in a whole other league.

Everywhere we traveled I was constantly harassed by men (not just Italian).

Are you in the DMV? It's not terrible here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I do wonder if it's part of the culture of older men in Italy thinking that men ogling women and pinching women is sometimes seen as a compliment. People in Italy need to object to the judge's ruling to start to change the culture in 2023.

Not just the older generations. The younger male generations have learned this behavior and do it as well. When my relatives visit from Florence, I constantly remind my male cousins that catcalling women here may get the sh!t slapped out of them b/c American women are not submissive and demure like many Italian.

They say things like "it is a compliment for me to think a woman is beautiful and worth enough of my attention!"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In Italy?

SHOCKED! Shocked, I tell you.

That's what I thought.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought catcalling in the US was terrible, but Italy was in a whole other league.

Everywhere we traveled I was constantly harassed by men (not just Italian).

Are you in the DMV? It's not terrible here.

I agree. I feel like the catcalling here is pretty limited to the occasional construction site. It's worse in some other places (NYC looking at you).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do wonder if it's part of the culture of older men in Italy thinking that men ogling women and pinching women is sometimes seen as a compliment. People in Italy need to object to the judge's ruling to start to change the culture in 2023.

Not just the older generations. The younger male generations have learned this behavior and do it as well. When my relatives visit from Florence, I constantly remind my male cousins that catcalling women here may get the sh!t slapped out of them b/c American women are not submissive and demure like many Italian.

They say things like "it is a compliment for me to think a woman is beautiful and worth enough of my attention!"

They will learn the hard way here if they don't listen to you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is it legal to slap the sh!t out of someone for groping you in Italy? This is such a demoralizing ruling for women.

Italy you need to do better!

Yep. I'd be like "okay, punching in response to groping is also legal if it's for 10 seconds or less."

Yeah, that was my reaction to being grabbed in Italy. I spun around ready to slap the snot out of the guy....who turned out to be a policeman. WTF.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I thought catcalling in the US was terrible, but Italy was in a whole other league.

Everywhere we traveled I was constantly harassed by men (not just Italian).

Catcalling is not a "US" thing. Have you never left North America?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Rude behavior, incivilities, unwelcome advances, unwelcome touching, whether casual or sexual, are not crimes. They are rude, maybe low class, but not criminal.

In this country, in the past couple decades we have become very touch-averse, but that's less so in Europe. A casual touching here, has become an assault. But it's not. It's not a crime. Nor should it be.

A casual touching of a breast is not an assault? A casual stroke between the legs is not assault? WTF is wrong with you.

It's called the "Trump effect".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is it legal to slap the sh!t out of someone for groping you in Italy? This is such a demoralizing ruling for women.

Italy you need to do better!

Yep. I'd be like "okay, punching in response to groping is also legal if it's for 10 seconds or less."

Yeah, that was my reaction to being grabbed in Italy. I spun around ready to slap the snot out of the guy....who turned out to be a policeman. WTF.